Ive not seen one of these before, have you ?
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soph21
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good idea!! but i think i would feel i was cheating, as when i break horses in i like them to go on a natural outline which is more comfortable for them.
Enfys
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Isn't a horse just going to hoik himself in the mouth everytime he moves his back end? So, to my eyes, you will have a horse going forwards with his chin on his chest, or not going forwards at all. If I had put a contraption like that on my last arab he would have turned himself inside out panicking.
Obviously, it must be far more subtle than that, but not something I would consider using.
You could end up with a horse going like this: So called ENGLISH pleasure horse class! be patient, it may take a while to load.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WxcHSZF7AY
Obviously, it must be far more subtle than that, but not something I would consider using.
You could end up with a horse going like this: So called ENGLISH pleasure horse class! be patient, it may take a while to load.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WxcHSZF7AY
Capriole
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would you use a pessoa or similar, as it seems to be a variation on a theme
Enfys
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Yes it does doesn't it?
No, I don't use anything. It is not necessary on my riding horse, Heaven knows what she's had on her before but she wouldn't go forwards AT ALL with ANY pressure on her mouth. Reverse for as long as she could feel pressure, yes. I can stop from a gallop on her simply by lifting my fingers and shifting my weight.
No, I don't use anything. It is not necessary on my riding horse, Heaven knows what she's had on her before but she wouldn't go forwards AT ALL with ANY pressure on her mouth. Reverse for as long as she could feel pressure, yes. I can stop from a gallop on her simply by lifting my fingers and shifting my weight.
Shilasdair
Patting her thylacine
You'd have to try it to see how it works...looks like a variation on all the others....pessoa....abbott davies etc.
I suspect it would encourage the horse to 'break' at the axis or the next cervical vertebrae, though.
That English 'pleasure horse' is a classic though!
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I suspect it would encourage the horse to 'break' at the axis or the next cervical vertebrae, though.
That English 'pleasure horse' is a classic though!
S
Capriole
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oh, i dont want one, just thought it looked unusual
kerilli
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honestly? just like the pessoa, if it is fitted short enough to have a contact, it will pull the horse in the mouth every time he takes a step with his back leg, if you think about it. would you ride him and sock him in the mouth with alternate hands?
nothing takes the place of being taught by a patient classically-trained instructor how to ride the horse softly and correctly from the legs to the hands, until it gives at the jaw and the poll and happily goes forward onto the bit. now i can (finally, finally!) do that, i never lunge anything i can ride... in fact, i only lunge the baby horses, ever... as soon as they're amenable to riding, they don't go back to lunging.
sorry, but these gadgets really aren't nice for horses.
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nothing takes the place of being taught by a patient classically-trained instructor how to ride the horse softly and correctly from the legs to the hands, until it gives at the jaw and the poll and happily goes forward onto the bit. now i can (finally, finally!) do that, i never lunge anything i can ride... in fact, i only lunge the baby horses, ever... as soon as they're amenable to riding, they don't go back to lunging.
sorry, but these gadgets really aren't nice for horses.
Capriole
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sorry, but these gadgets really aren't nice for horses.
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i dont disagree, i dont use anything of the sort either, am just interested in all your views
sorry, but these gadgets really aren't nice for horses.
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i dont disagree, i dont use anything of the sort either, am just interested in all your views
kerilli
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absolutely! that's exactly what my trainer says about pessoa's, but loads of people seem to love them. they pull the horse in the mouth with every stride he takes.
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Shilasdair
Patting her thylacine
I must start using them more then...as it will be excellent in preparing my horses more effectively for my riding style (I like to alternately boot and saw)
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Capriole
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(I like to alternately boot and saw)
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keep practising and you'll be able to boot, saw and elbow flap...
(I like to alternately boot and saw)
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keep practising and you'll be able to boot, saw and elbow flap...
Seahorse
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I thought that was why the pessoa had pulley's on them?
Enfys
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That English 'pleasure horse' is a classic though!
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They look like automatons, just watching it makes me feel like I am in half speed mode, wake up! Walk ON!
I know, there's a world of difference, when I first saw classes like that I was totally stunned. Can you imagine how one of those (going like that)would do in an English ridden class? (I wonder what an English judge would think? ) Or, alternately, to be fair, how an English horse would do in one of theirs?
That English 'pleasure horse' is a classic though!
S
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They look like automatons, just watching it makes me feel like I am in half speed mode, wake up! Walk ON!
I know, there's a world of difference, when I first saw classes like that I was totally stunned. Can you imagine how one of those (going like that)would do in an English ridden class? (I wonder what an English judge would think? ) Or, alternately, to be fair, how an English horse would do in one of theirs?
Shilasdair
Patting her thylacine
Hell, I knew I'd forgotten one of the aids....and I forgot the 'lurch' part too. Sorry.
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PS When did you see me ride then? You must have been impressed...
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PS When did you see me ride then? You must have been impressed...