Jack is going back!


It turns out he rears and bucks aswell
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Took him for a ride in the field Wednesday evening with Mum on Max and we started to trot and Max over took Jack and Jack went on to one, resulting in one of the biggest rears ever! As I dont know him well enough to know if he is prone to going over I got my feet out the stirrups quick smart and hurled myself to the ground! That resulted in me banging me head very hard and having to go to A&E!
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I rang Jacks owner and all she could say was, she'll have to have him put to sleep!
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She had no sympathy for me at all and was more concerned that she's got no where for Jack to go as she's filled his stable at home and if he's gonna be dangerous, he'll have to be PTS.
I told her thats not the right thing to do, but Id like her to come and get him asap.
She rang me yesterday morning and had the cheeck to ask me if I could arranged to have him PTS, coz if she comes and gets him it will be to take him home to be PTS! I said, no I wont do that, I dont agree with it and I wont be a part of that.
I just dont get how this woman thinks. Archie rears ALL THE TIME! And Id never dream of having him put down. I told her, there was only room for one bucker and rearer in my life and that Arch! I got Jack to help me with my confidence and have fun on and I cant have another rearer.
I cant send him back to certain death though, its not fair on him. He may never do it again, but I cant take that chance. I feel awful and just dont know what to do.
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Thats so unfair of her to put you in that situation.

Cant you suggest that she send him to a trainer and sells on from there?
 
Had he reared with his past owner out of interest.....from how she is talking it seems she knew about this all the time,was she hopeing he would not do it again.....Erm,very curious!
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_OC_ She swears he's never done this b4, she did tell me he doens little bucks every now and then, which is fine, but she said he's NEVER reared her. Not sure I believe her though.
God I feel crap
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She is bl**dy lying to you,I can bet he has!
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Isit the first time you have ridden him with another horse? How long have you had him?

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Nope, I was out in the woods the other day jumping logs on him and he was fine. Didnt have another horse over take him though. Ive only had him since Saturday!
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Sounds like emotional blackmail to me.

Send him back - your life is more important than his!

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Thats what my friends are saying, I hate being in this situation.
I text her last night to ask her when she is coming to get him and she said, as soon as we can organise it and she'll be in touch in the next few days!
 
"I can't send him back to certain death" - well I'm afraid that this is just what she is counting on.
Gets rid of HER problem very neatly.

This happens so many times - "take the horse and see how you get on" then the new keeper gets fond of the animal - don't we all even though it might be completely unsuitable for riding or for ever we want to do - but we get fond of them and keep them and can't bear to think of them being handed round and round, going to market or PTS.

Poor you, I do feel sorry for you, and wouldn't like to be in your shoes.
 
It seems obvious that she knew the horse reared & had problems & has put you in a potentially very dangerous situation. Then having done that she tries to play the sympathy card of saying she'll have the horse PTS because of the rear with you & hoping you would keep the horse as a result of what she's said thus saving the problem of her having to find somewhere to put him.

Just tell her to come & collect the horse, you can't make yourself for every horse you come across in your lifetime. This owner is very manipulative, don't get caught up in it.
 
You have to become detached and let her take him, however what sort of rubbish vet would put a horse to sleep just because it reared or I am totally wrong here
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It sounds to me like he has given her trouble in the past and by her threatening to have him PTS she's hoping you'll feel guilty enough to keep him.
I think you know you have to give him back to her, what she does is then up to her but I doubt she'll go through with having him PTS. I would have thought it is an empty threat.
 
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Sounds like emotional blackmail to me.

Send him back - your life is more important than his!

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Thats what my friends are saying, I hate being in this situation.
I text her last night to ask her when she is coming to get him and she said, as soon as we can organise it and she'll be in touch in the next few days!

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Not good enough. Ring her now, and tell her you would appreciate her picking the horse up tomorrow at midday.

The longer he's with you - the more difficult this is going to be for you.

If she says no - take him back yourself!
 
Tell her she'll be billed for livery costs unless he is collected within 72 hours. And do send him back, he is her horse and its v unlikely this was the first time he had reared. To not inform you of the risk is extremely dangerous and to then emotionally blackmail you just compounds it.
 
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If she is so adament that he has never done this before why does she want him PTS?!?!

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Sounds like emotional blackmail to me.

Send him back - your life is more important than his!

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Thats what my friends are saying, I hate being in this situation.
I text her last night to ask her when she is coming to get him and she said, as soon as we can organise it and she'll be in touch in the next few days!

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Not good enough. Ring her now, and tell her you would appreciate her picking the horse up tomorrow at midday.

The longer he's with you - the more difficult this is going to be for you.

If she says no - take him back yourself!

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I agree. To me it sounds like she knew he reared, there is no such thing as a confidence giver that rears forcing you to bail out and end up in A&E! Send him back ASAP before he shatters your nerves completely, its a hard decision but your safety is paramount!
 
How did he arrive at yours on Saturday?
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Do you have a box?
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Get him back there arrange delivery yourself if you have to but let him go.
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Been there done that after purchasing but got all moneies back. He probably will go to someone else on loan. I doubt she will have him pts. Unpredictable horses are a nightmare. You need a confidence giver which he clearly is not. There are some genuine loan horses out there, but there are a lot of nutters. I always ask myself and the owner this question. What's wrong with him/her, if the answer is nothing.
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Then why are you selling or putting on loan if its one of what I call usual excuses I may have a look which shows why they are for sale or for loan. I then leave well alone. I don't want someone else's problems. Sorry to sound synical but the horse world over the last ten years has made me like this. Before this peeps didn't seem to tell the lies. I've been around horses over 40 years.
 
I have to say, contrary to everybody else, i don't think this horse has been given a chance.

If a regular posted here and explained that they had put their horse out on loan because they couldn't keep it - and the horse came back within a matter of days, 90% of the posts would be saying that the horse had not been given a chance to settle in to new surroundings, new field companions, changes in routine, etc.

I would be wanting this horse at least 2-3 weeks before making any decisions, and maybe taking a step back on the work being done until it has a little more confidence in a new rider (and that is no judgement on the ability of the rider)

The alternative? It goes back to be shunted around various loan homes unless it happens to find a patient and experienced person who is prepared to give it time. Or ends up even more mixed up and unhappy - in which case it would have been kinder to PTS
 
What an awful situation and so unfiar on you. She's completely emotionally blackmailing you so don't take any of her c*ap! Tell her she either has to come and pick him up say tomorrow, or you take him back there. OR suggest that she send him to a trainer to sell on her behalf.

I really feel for you.
 

mother-hen I agree with you, but after having some very bad falls from Archie (my serial rearer) I cant have another one.
One rear and he's gone Im affraid, I just cant afford any more falls and Im not prepared to loose my confidence again.
 
Plus (for the 3rd time in trying) the owner seems to have been a little economical with the truth on his behaviour.

Fine to be settling in - but a horse doesn't start rearing for no good reason!
 
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