Jack Russell has killed a baby ! OMG

Just read it....my baby has the same outfit :( so so awful.

Had a big argument with my mum when I visited them last week as they were letting the dog in the room with the baby. They say he wouldn't hurt a fly but you just never know.
They are just animals with teeth at the end of the day.

So sad for the family.
 
I'm 99.99999% sure my patterdale would be ok.....but you just NEVER know.
She lives outside but I haven't even let her into the kitchen during the day since the baby was born, I just don't trust any animal that much.
 
Every time I hear about kids being killed by dogs I wonder how it is possible.

I have 6 sheep dogs, I love them dearly spend most of the day with them at work and they have great temperaments and I would never believe they could hurt a child. HOWEVER never ever did or do I take the chance with my daughter or indeed any other child.

A baby should never be at the same level as a dog, so it should be impossible.

In my previous job as a dog behaviourist I saw people taking ludicrous risks all the time and invariably they told me the dog was great with kids and tolerated anything they wanted to do to the dog.
 
It is so, so sad :( :( A jack russell also killed a child (Jaden Mack) a few years back with a staffie. I really feel it is deed not breed and almost any dog can kill, particularly with a newborn. No-one ever thinks their dog is capable but a dog not used to babies can get confused and its better to be safe than sorry.
 
FfionWinnie said:
Every time I hear about kids being killed by dogs I wonder how it is possible.

I have 6 sheep dogs, I love them dearly spend most of the day with them at work and they have great temperaments and I would never believe they could hurt a child. HOWEVER never ever did or do I take the chance with my daughter or indeed any other child.

A baby should never be at the same level as a dog, so it should be impossible.
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You could be me! Except I have 7 dogs. I also cannot understand how these things happen, especially with a newborn baby which are soooo tiny and sooo precious that you would never leave them out of your sight or ever ever put them in harms way. I don't know the story though so maybe the dog jumped into where the baby was. A sad story regardless :(
 
This scares the ***** out of me. We hope to have a baby and due to start fertility treatment next year, we also have a very special jack Russell. Perfect with children from five years up but the only time we ever had a newborn in the room with him the baby squeaked and he flew at it. I was holding the baby and shielded it while someone wrestled with him, he was grabbed by his back leg and snarling and snapping, he was doing his absolute best to get to me/baby.

The dog is my absolute baby but heaven knows what we will do in the future.

My heart goes out to that poor family.
 
The thing is spring feather why was the dog able to jump anywhere near into where the baby is. A dog cage, baby gate, door, lock, kennel outside whatever it takes and train the dog before the baby is born as well, to be off the furniture and beds etc (I wouldn't let mine on any thing other than the floor, I mean folk who do let them in the bed etc). We do after all have 9 months preparation time.

When I was pregnant I had one dog which I had taken off death row (failed pet) which although was now a trained sheep dog and very obedient, I felt was a potential liability (even though they are kennelled outside) so I found her a new working home before the baby was born. And before anyone jumps up and down, I took the dog on to save its life and had turned it around, it wasn't good enough to be on my dog team and would always have been moving on baby or not.
 
If you want to sort the dog out Billie, start now. Keep it off the furniture, beds and don't allow it upstairs/in bedrooms. Get it used to a dog crate and being confined in the kitchen. If you want more advice about how to get it ready for a baby, please pm me.
 
Remember dogs are pack animals, and to the jack russell this baby came into it's pack and territory - not that that excuses what happened.

In my house I have a strict pecking order - dogs at the bottom, below me and children. They don't get on furniture, they don't get to walk ahead of me (or my buggy when pushing it) while on a lead, they eat after us (in the pack the leaders get to eat first and the ones at the bottom of the chain eat last), they don't get upstairs - that's our territory only - they don't get to jump around with excitement (not worth the accidents from kids getting knocked over), they don't get to whine because they want something etc etc.

I have had some cheeky people thinking I am too strict with them, but they are my dogs and it's my choice, and IMO the dogs who are allowed to pull their owners along on walks, jump up at people, be fed under the table, lie up on the couch so the humans have to sit elsewhere - THEY are the dogs who think they are at the top of the pecking order so THEY are the dogs most likely to cause trouble, because they think it's THEIR house and THEIR rules.

I have had nothing but bad experiences with Jack Russells, I myself have been bitten by one, one of my dogs was attacked by one (she was minding her own business, didn't even know it was there, was totally unprovoked) and people I know who have them are forever complaining about how badly behaved and how much work they are. Before any Jack Russel owners/lovers jump down my throat - this is just my opinion on past experiences.

What an awfully tragic thing for this family to go through, you should never, ever trust a dog 100% with a child, no matter how well you think you know it.
 
Jack russells..bred to go to ground and KILL foxes/KILL rats and all vermin.Sorry baby you really did pick some super stupid parents,for which you and a dog paid the price.THEY should be done for bad parenting resulting in death.:mad:
 
EAST KENT said:
Jack russells..bred to go to ground and KILL foxes/KILL rats and all vermin.Sorry baby you really did pick some super stupid parents,for which you and a dog paid the price.THEY should be done for bad parenting resulting in death.:mad:
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Bit harsh? From what I heard on the news, the dog belonged to the baby's grandparents. Can't believe you're attacking the parents who have just lost a tiny baby.
 
scottishmiss said:
Remember dogs are pack animals, and to the jack russell this baby came into it's pack and territory - not that that excuses what happened.

In my house I have a strict pecking order - dogs at the bottom, below me and children. They don't get on furniture, they don't get to walk ahead of me (or my buggy when pushing it) while on a lead, they eat after us (in the pack the leaders get to eat first and the ones at the bottom of the chain eat last), they don't get upstairs - that's our territory only - they don't get to jump around with excitement (not worth the accidents from kids getting knocked over), they don't get to whine because they want something etc etc.

I have had some cheeky people thinking I am too strict with them, but they are my dogs and it's my choice, and IMO the dogs who are allowed to pull their owners along on walks, jump up at people, be fed under the table, lie up on the couch so the humans have to sit elsewhere - THEY are the dogs who think they are at the top of the pecking order so THEY are the dogs most likely to cause trouble, because they think it's THEIR house and THEIR rules.



What an awfully tragic thing for this family to go through, you should never, ever trust a dog 100% with a child, no matter how well you think you know it.
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100% agree.
Total tragedy, poor family.
 
It's so tragic - no matter how good natured or safe you think a dog is, it's not worth the risk of letting it near a young child.

I know people who have bought puppies when they've recently had children so that they can "grow up" together - that's a lovely idea but is also quite a risk if they are not supervised properly.
 
We had three Border terriers and a small lurcher, all bitches, in the house prior to our first child being born. The first day the baby was home, the dogs were put outside to live in kennels. They were hunting dogs, and I didn't like the way they reacted to the baby's sounds.

My sons are 9 and 5 now. The terriers are deceased, but the lurcher and a CKC spaniel now live in the house and adore the kids, enjoying walks with them and sleeping on their beds most nights.

It's always tragic when a child is the victim of dog attack in such circumstances. No dog should be trusted with young babies, IMO, and anyone who fails to take sensible precautions is taking enormous risks.

Poor baby, poor parents, and poor dog.
 
What baffled me was that a postman/neighbour said that the dog had previously snapped at him and yet it was near a baby. We don't know the circumstances of course, for all we know dog could have escaped from a room to where he was confined and quickly made a beeline for the baby. Does make you wonder though.
 
Any dog can turn, get confused by the noise of the baby and the fuss that's going on. Let's hope others learn from this tragic story.
 
i find all the judgemental posts disturbing, this family has lost a baby.

i had 3 young dogs when my girls were babies and i cannot hand on heart say there were never ever any times when the dogs could not have bitten the kids,

as for the poster who critisises the family then states her dogs now sleep on her young kids beds-my friend had done this for years when her 12yr old got badly bitten on the face one night, apparently its common for some one to get bitten whilst asleep if they start dreaming.

my heart goesout to a family that needs help and support ,not harsh judgement the worst that could happen to parents has happened, and they will all carry the guilt for the rest of their lives
 
The baby was at the grandparents' house & it was their dog. In these kind of tragedies,the dog often doesn't belong to baby's parents but a relative or friend of the family,who doubtless may not have been as wary or worried about said dog's potential interaction with and/or reaction to the baby,as mum&dad would perhaps have been. My sister was very fearful of leaving my niece at her mother in laws when niece was a baby,as MIL had a rescued rottie cross who had tried to bite other people (visitors) in the past but MIL was of the opinion he'd 'never hurt a baby- they just know' etc. Some people won't be told. In this case mum was only 19,a girl herself really. Maybe she didn't have much sway with parents? Still,a tragedy....
 
My jr gets very very interested if he hears a baby crying on the tv. He acts the same way as he does when he hears or see's something he considers prey. We don't have children and in all other ways I.e with visiting young children he's fine. Let's them dress him up etc. But babies would be a huge no no.
 
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