Jack's Here and OMG the stress!

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I swear to god im NEVER doing this again. This is my third night on basically no sleep and my stress levels are through the roof. Its also the first time i could have cried and really wished i was back in the UK.

Jack arrived on time and looking well.... although i was warned that as predicted, he'd refused to drink... So he'd been 26 hours with no water.

OK... took him straight into the stable expecting him to be thirsty and nothing. He was very interested in the haylage but wouldnt touch any water. I put a bucket in there incase the automatic waterer was freaking him out but still no interest at all.

I stayed with him for about an hour but then the guy who gave me a lift needed to be somewhere so we left.

Not feeling happy about the situation, i decided to brave the whole "wrong side of the road bit" and embarked on my first journey back to the stables - which, incidently, was SCAREY as hell!

Anyway, first thing i noticed when i got back was that he had passed droppings and they looked normal but he still wasnt drinking. Pinching his skin showed he was quite dehydrated but he was still very "perky" in himself. Took him out for a 10 minute leg stretch and he was ok... very on his toes but ok.

I stayed with him about 3 hours and ive managed to get him to drink a little. He emptied the automatic waterer twice but couldnt work out he needed to stick his nose right in to refill it... so i was doing it manually. He sloshed about in his bucket a little and he also took some from my hands. It's not a lot... but it was enough, imo, to remove any imminent danger. His skin is still not retracting back fast enough when you pinch it, but nor is it staying "pinched" for as long as it was before.

I think the problem is that he's more hungry than thirsty. For some reason, the YO at the old place through hay in the box for him rather than haylage (which he has always had), and the transport lady said he just didnt like it.

I hit an immediate issue with the food at the new yard. The head groom was showing me the food and its straights... and im not even entirely sure WHAT straights.. he just called it all corn and muesli.

Oooooooooooooook, so hes having no hard feed for a few days while i figure out whether i can source some simple horse and pony nuts or something (i HATE over complicating feeds and these horses are on this stuff three times a day... it looked a LOT of food to me). I also need my OH home to speak to the head groom as the language barrier was kicking in when it came to horse feeds although I did manage to get him haylage rather than hay which was a minor victory.

So, i left him at about 10pm and he was ok. Still very perky... still eating... had passed more droppings but still needing water. Im hoping he might settled some overnight and drink when its more peaceful, if not i'll try adding apple juice or something to his water tomorrow :|

I hated leaving him tonight. He was being so clingy to me and was obviously not convinced about his new surroundings.

The yard is MUCH bigger than im used to which has instantly freaked me out a bit. I also found out that a lot of the horses dont go out at all but they fill them with sooo much hard feed. Im still trying to work out exactly how the turn out works (again, need OH home tomorrow to help with this) although i was planning on doing very little with him over the next few days anyway.

Ive kept the name of the lovely transport lady who said if i didnt settle at broholm and needed him taking elsewhere, she'd happily move him again.

Im very tired... im STILL very stressed and im very nervous about the new yard and i think that basically sums up how Jack feels also.
 
glad he arrived safe.

Two good tricks I used with my lad as he also refused to drink when travelling were
1) make an extremely sloppy feed of just a bit of chaff and lots of water!
2) apple/carrot bobbing, they can't help but slurp some water when getting the carrots/apples and even better its fun for them
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I wouldn't be too afraid of feeding straights its very common on the continent. 'normal' feed wise I think the most popular brand is Pavo which is still different from spillers and the like which you will probably find hard to source.

Why not take advantage of the UK feeding help lines and quiz them as to what straights would be equivelent to their varying mixes/nuts
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No wonder you're stressed, but try and relax, you'd be amazed how horses can cope with change.. Other countries' do feed differently to us, I've been shown fruit as the main part of the diet in one place yet his horses looked wonderful!
If your horse has haylage it has a high moisture content so he will be getting some fluids. If you can try putting some apple juice in a small amount of water tomorrow and that may also help persuade him to drink. Any feed he gets make it sloppy.
If you have pink powders try giving him them for a week as it will help his stomach adjust to different feed and water.
Water actually has a definite smell to it, as I know that now as we have such pure spring water here. offer me a glass of tap water and I gag at the smell of chlorine, yet the ones who drink it all the time can't taste of smell a thing. Horses are the same, we always take our own water to shows as they just don't like strange water.
The horse whisperer lady told us why one gelding refused to ever drink in his stable was beause in his field the trough had blackberry bushes hanging into it and he likes the blackberry water.. (I kid you not, we went and checked and she was right!)
Anyway sorry to go off on a tangent, your horse will settle, just give him time and take a pick of the feed and post it in the gallery. Some of us may be able to identify the contents!
Sleep well, and I bet your horse will too, glad to be off the box and in a stable again..
 
Ohhhhhh glad he has arrived
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As for being worried about straights, it is all this stuff over here that does my head in, you guys have a RIDICULOUS amount of options, at least you know where you are with straights!

Now try and relax - Jack will be
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But i dont know where i am with them! :P

I *vaaaaaaguely* remember them from my stage 1 or 2 training but i couldnt even identify what this stuff was. The head groom refered to them as two different types of corn... and that was that
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I was left poking them thinking "wtf is this?
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" I guess the easiest thing since it sounds like straights are the common here, would be to just introduce them slowly over the next week or so but 3 times a day just feels like a lot to me!
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(Although "lunch" is apparently muesli.... whatever that really is im not sure
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The haylage is ridiculously cheap here it seems... they charge £15.00 for the whole month and it was really nice stuff. The only thing is i think they feed a lot of concentrates and less roughage where as id prefer it the other way round... But tbh, if worse comes to worse, i'll pay a whopping £30.00 a month and give him extra
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Bless the horse and his blackberry water!

In a way i should be greatful i think... if he'd walked in his box and immedialy drunk loads, id now be sat here panicing about colic. As it stands im sat here half panicing about dehydration but i do think he'll sort himself out as he certainly didnt look a "sick" horse by any stretch of the immagination.

Im gonna go raid the local saddlery on saturday (only just found out its a holiday here tomorrow which was stupid planning on my half) and grab some electrolytes and a pro-biotic of some kind.

Taking piccies of the feed is a fabulous idea. I used to be so good at this kind of thing, but that was back when i did my stages and since then, ive never touched straights so to me... they were "seeds" (god i sound stupid
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So glad he arrived safely!! Reading about your stress levels it's probably just as well that I wasn't here when PF arrived! Don't worry about straights; that's all that's fed here. I'm sure I've become incredibly boring about straight soaked oats, but they're totally brilliant
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Hope you get some pics soon
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I really wouldn't worry too much about him, he sounds happy enough and probably just needs a few days to settle
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As for straights, mine have just gone onto them and they love them and look great too. I'm from an era when straights was all you had so I guess it wasn't such a shock but they really are straight forward.

I'm guessing the two types of corn referred to may be maize (looks like cornflakes) and flaked barley (looks like muesli). Oats should be fairly obvious, as would be bran. If you can post some pics we might be able to help
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Oh to be fair, their horses all look lovely and healthy. They all look "well" in their weight (possibly a teeeny bit over but i tend to keep mine like that anyway) and all have lovely coats.

Im *pretty* sure what i saw the horses been given last night were oats.

How heating are these realistically? I know theres been a lot of debate about them on these forums recently, but i never really followed them.
 
Hi Hun

Firstly im glad hes arrived safe and sound. At least he has drunk a bit aswell which is good, and hes passing droppings. Im sure the stress and his nerves are stopping him from drinking like he normally would at home. Im sure once he settles in he will be fine. I just think it will take time for him to adjust and recover from such a long journey.

Try not to worry too much, altho i know its easier said than done x
 
Glad he arrived safe and sound. I wouldn't worry to much about not giving him any hard feed for a couple of days - as long as he has plenty of forage and can get out and have a pick of grass he will be happy and will soon settle down. The others have given you some good tips on getting fluids into him and again having a pick at grass will help this too. Straights aren't that scary once you know exactly what they are - as Rambo said - post us a pic and perhaps we can help. Some horses do find oats overheating but in my experience they are the minority and like any feed it is a bit of trial and error to get your quantities right - if your horse is not barley intolerant this is a great feed for condition. Take a breath and relax - he will be fine, but he won't be if you turn into a frazzled nervous wreck!!
 
glad hes arrived safe and sound - and im sure he will get the hang of drinking etc soon.

glad the haylage is good and once he has good grass etc he'll be sorted! and you'll get used to straights soon, you cant beat soaked oats - their fab! (unless your horse has ESPM like mine!)

take a big deep breath and remember he'll be fine, hes got grub, water and just needs a little time to settle.

(ps BIG glass of wine for you!)
 
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