Jagdterrier....tell me about them please!

[Flowerofthefen]

We have enquired about a bitch. We didn't realise at the time but it turns out she is for sale by the daughter of a good friend of my OH. Both parents can be seen. All usual puppy things done ie worming etc. From a very good breeding line though as long as the line is healthy we arnt bothered about the lines. She is 8 weeks old and ready to go. I've never heard of this type if terrier but reading about them, the pros and cons, she sounds as though she might fit in. Any advice,any experiences would be gratefully received. We are hoping to go and see her tomorrow.

 

[AmyMay]

Ooo, just googled them. Very good looking dogs.

 

[Flowerofthefen]

Ooo, just googled them. Very good looking dogs.

They are lovely looking. Just wanted to know a bit more about their personality. We have a beautiful laid back lab so we're hoping any dog we had would get the calmness vibes off her!! It says they prefer to be an only dog but the breeder has his with whippets etc and has never encountered any problems. I'm a firm believer in the fact the home makes ( or breaks) a dog but I also know different breeds have different traits no matter how they are brought up!!

 

[Cinnamontoast]

Nice looking dogs. I doubt many on here will have experience, tho.

 

[Flowerofthefen]

Nice looking dogs. I doubt many on here will have experience, tho.

Looks like a fairly ' new' breed. I've wanted a terrier since my gorgeous girl died three years ago. I'm just so worried about taking that big step and actually getting one!! I think we will go and see her and have a good honest chat with the breeder.

 

[Moobli]

My neighbour in the highlands uses his for pest control purposes. Hardy, worky, tough little dogs. Not the first breed I’d think of for a family pet, although I believe they make good companions - but are still a working dog first and foremost.

 

[Flowerofthefen]

My neighbour in the highlands uses his for pest control purposes. Hardy, worky, tough little dogs. Not the first breed I’d think of for a family pet, although I believe they make good companions - but are still a working dog first and foremost.

Thank you for your reply. She would be a pet first and foremost, same as our gundog, but she would have opportunities for pest control, its what her dad does best!! Lots to think about.

 

[Moobli]

Thank you for your reply. She would be a pet first and foremost, same as our gundog, but she would have opportunities for pest control, it’s what her dad does best!! Lots to think about.

If you have controlled outlets for her natural behaviour then you’ll be halfway there. Look forward to seeing photos. They are very smart looking dogs.

 

[Flowerofthefen]

If you have controlled outlets for her natural behaviour then you’ll be halfway there. Look forward to seeing photos. They are very smart looking dogs.

What is your neighbours dogs temperament like aside from the hunter? Does it bark gave you noticed? Just reading they can bark a bit!!

 

[palo1]

I know of one and he is lovely but has fairly entrenched working terrier behaviours. They are very smart looking and shouldn't be too tricky...If you are used to terrierists lol!! I didn't think there were any being bred in the UK (I quite fancied having one a while back but then got my Irish terrier )

 

[Flowerofthefen]

I know of one and he is lovely but has fairly entrenched working terrier behaviours. They are very smart looking and shouldn't be too tricky...If you are used to terrierists lol!! I didn't think there were any being bred in the UK (I quite fancied having one a while back but then got my Irish terrier )

Sounds promising!! My dear terrier that died 3 years ago was an absolute angel, so funny but never naughty. Our black lab was just a delight from start to finish, we list her earlier this year. Our current lab was a really naughty pup but us now an absolute angel. I really want that terrier funnyness ( is that a word?) But I don't want to get in over my head as usual a very long commitment. I think the boys are more active than the girls so I've read. I've never heard of them but yes there is now at least one litter in the UK!

 

[Rokele55]

A friend wanted me to use one owned by his friend on my border Lakeland bitch. Having looked into the breed I declined. My bitch is sharp enough, I didn't want to breed anything which would not have suited a pet home. I think they may need proper terrier work

 

[Flowerofthefen]

A friend wanted me to use one owned by his friend on my border Lakeland bitch. Having looked into the breed I declined. My bitch is sharp enough, I didn't want to breed anything which would not have suited a pet home. I think they may need proper terrier work

Thank you for your reply. Its difficult to judge the breed , I can only really go by the Internet and what the breeder says his dogs are like. I would hate to get her then not be able to exercise her enough. Will keep thinking, we need to let breeder know in the morning if we want to see her.

 

[CorvusCorax]

They're not new in Germany, and fairly feisty IME. They're still very much a working breed. I know a judge of working German Shepherds in Germany who has one and has his hands full, his last message to me was 'Not easy to handle, he is always biting!'.
I will ask him if things have calmed down any ?

 

[Flowerofthefen]

They're not new in Germany, and fairly feisty IME. They're still very much a working breed. I know a judge of working German Shepherds in Germany who has one and has his hands full, his last message to me was 'Not easy to handle, he is always biting!'.
I will ask him if things have calmed down any ?

Beginning to think she might be too much for us exercise wise .......

 

[CorvusCorax]

It's not even exercise, it's occupation/work, there well may be a primal urge to focus on movement, to hunt (the clue is in the name!), chase, dig, alert/vocalise, bite/hold and put it up to things that are much bigger than them.
There are plenty of sports, games and activities which can help channel these instincts.
I don't think there's any harm in going along to have a look, they are fun little dogs, I say that as someone who went from a showline to a working line of the same breed and it was like going from a Fiat to a Ferrari, it was a culture shock but I now prefer high octane dogs!! Even if my back is starting to complain ?

 

[rara007]

The ones I see are wild. Proper working terriers.

 

[planete]

I found a pretty good overview of the breed: https://animalso.com/breeds/jagdterrier/

 

[Flowerofthefen]

The ones I see are wild. Proper working terriers.

My OH is into his shooting etc. She would get ample opportunity to go ratting etc but not sure I want something so feisty. I will find out more about this particular litter!!

 

[Flowerofthefen]

I found a pretty good overview of the breed: https://animalso.com/breeds/jagdterrier/

Thank you, yes I saw that. Different websites say slightly different things about them but they definitely seem to be high energy hunters on all websites!!

 

[P3LH]

Would fight to the death with their own shadow. A working dog through and through, and not one would would be content with a bit of ratting or flushing rabbits.

 

[Flowerofthefen]

Would fight to the death with their own shadow. A working dog through and through, and not one would would be content with a bit of ratting or flushing rabbits.

Thank you. The more I'm reading these the more I'm convinced she is not for us. What's drawing me to he is that we know the breeder ( he has a rat pack!) She is well bred and a good price. Also the breed is not known for separation anxiety but on the flip side there is a lot of traits that probably won't fit in with us. How hard can it be to find a nice jrt/ scruffy terrier pup from a reputable breeder!!

 

[P3LH]

Thank you. The more I'm reading these the more I'm convinced she is not for us. What's drawing me to he is that we know the breeder ( he has a rat pack!) She is well bred and a good price. Also the breed is not known for separation anxiety but on the flip side there is a lot of traits that probably won't fit in with us. How hard can it be to find a nice jrt/ scruffy terrier pup from a reputable breeder!!

Although not exactly common I always think Lucas Terriers and their slightly estranged cousins the Sporting Lucas terriers, are ideal for those who want that blend of typical terrier character, bold and game temperament, classic terrier look but without the urge to want to fight everything, kill everything, or get too hot under the collar. Both have breed clubs of very helpful and dedicated breeders - I’ve looked into them several times over the years but decided to have a break from terriers as a whole.

 

[palo1]

Thank you, yes I saw that. Different websites say slightly different things about them but they definitely seem to be high energy hunters on all websites!!

Have you considered an Irish or Lakeland terrier; both breeds much more familiar here in the UK - similarly longer legged, scruffy type trad terriers but with an 'easier' temperament generally? I adore my Irish terrier - he is a prince among clowns but Lakies are fab, fun dogs (they come in black and tan too) and would be sort of similar in look to a Jagd but possibly easier and definitely easier to source. And of course, there is the Patterdale option too.

 

[Flowerofthefen]

Although not exactly common I always think Lucas Terriers and their slightly estranged cousins the Sporting Lucas terriers, are ideal for those who want that blend of typical terrier character, bold and game temperament, classic terrier look but without the urge to want to fight everything, kill everything, or get too hot under the collar. Both have breed clubs of very helpful and dedicated breeders - I’ve looked into them several times over the years but decided to have a break from terriers as a whole.

Thank you for that. Really helpful. I'm judging everything by my old terrier who was quite literally a one off. I'm looking for a small dog, not a fluffy handbag dog if you know what I mean. They are cute but not for me. A bit of character but not a kill drive. We live on a farm and have chickens etc. We have a beautiful lab gundog, so somewhat can keep up with her on a walk but not piss off after stuff every 5 mins. It then also needs to cuddle on the sofa at night. Not a lot to ask!! I've looked into cockers and smaller spaniels in general but again too wizzy for our lifestyle. Any ideas?

 

[P3LH]

A friend has a Welsh, again not common - but one of the most sociable and sensible dogs. Good size too.

 

[Flowerofthefen]

Have you considered an Irish or Lakeland terrier; both breeds much more familiar here in the UK - similarly longer legged, scruffy type trad terriers but with an 'easier' temperament generally? I adore my Irish terrier - he is a prince among clowns but Lakies are fab, fun dogs (they come in black and tan too) and would be sort of similar in look to a Jagd but possibly easier and definitely easier to source. And of course, there is the Patterdale option too.

I met the most beautiful Patterdale, God she was gorgeous but I also know a few naughty ones!! Thanks, will search again. I was really hoping one would find me ....

 

[Flowerofthefen]

A friend has a Welsh, again not common - but one of the most sociable and sensible dogs. Good size too.

Will have a look, thank you.

 

[MurphysMinder]

They do sound as if they are rather full on. Not actually a terrier but have a look at Lancashire Heelers, they would tick a lot of your boxes.

 

[blackcob]

I was going to say that they look and sound rather like a black and tan version of a Patterdale, of which all the ones I've known have been absolute hell in terms of bogging off to kill things and for their dog aggression. Proper hard terriers, IME. A colleague bred sporting lucas terriers which seemed to be still game little dogs but perhaps more suitable for a family home.

Disclaimer that they are also not a terrier but historically had the same function as terriers, and while people are coming up with more uncommon options - schipperkes make for great farm dogs.