Japanese Akita ?

Alec Swan said:
Understand something, not everyone on this forum, or elsewhere, will have your undoubted depth of experience and knowledge.

There are those dogs to which the tyro will 'progress', and the Akita is one of them. For the novice, those dogs which I have seen, would be the shortest route to disaster.

Alec.
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100% this ^^^^ you mess up with your average dog, you ask for help and either forgive or get rid, you mess up with this breed and you are in serious bother.
 
CAYLA said:
THIS ONES MAKES MORE SENSE LOL

Well for a start I never said they where a fighting dog! I know exactly what they where bred. Do I still to my original post (absolutely) from 5 years back when I owned and trained the breed on a smaller scale and we offered refuge in our rescue on a smaller scale, we have now dealt with vast amounts of Akitas in rescue.
Did you notice in my post below I said I would rather have 10 akitas than 1 spaniel??
Did I come over strong? (hell yes). We are one of the very few maybe the only one rescue in my area who will give refuge to Akitas Why? people have learned their lessons and learn by experiance. I only a few months ago (after being begged by the Akita rescue girl) accepted a large young Akita male from a pound in LONDON! no other rescue would offer back up and the pound it's self would not rehome such a breed direct to Joe public (good job too) these dogs are so hard to assess for the inexperianced and especially in a kennel environment, more than any other breed once taken from their familiar place where indeed they bond strongly they suffer the most horrendous time placed in solitary and withdrawn from all they know and being dealt with by strangers (and yes rescue is stressful for any dog) but believe me if you saw the difference you would know why my opinion remains as strong as ever that this breed is not for the in experianced. Very rarely can they be rehomed with other dogs due to their lack of socialising coupled with their natural
So once they land in rescue or commonly to the pound the outlook for these dogs is not comparitable to other breeds, not even sbt's (so thank god) we don't see the same numbers.
You can mess up with any breed...but with the outcome be the same (hell no)...are people more commonly bitten by little ankle biters? (of course) that is logical, they are the more commonly owned breeds of dog, along with labradors, if there where as many Akitas in the hands of Joe public than there where labs and yorkies then we would be in serious bother. I am not dissing the breed and im not a fan of yorkies and labs, but I would rather a mistake be make with one of those breeds in the wrong hands than the likes of an Akita, so we can agree to disagree all day long.

And if you think the breed are owned more commonly by responsible people and this is why we hear of so few incidents then I am wondering if you are aware of the dire rescue statistics and the statistics of these dogs owned as status symbols in the hand of billy the lad!!. When Akitas go wrong in the hands of the irresponsible they are simply PTS without a second thought, the likes a labradors/ankle biters are swiftly forgiven it may be the same crime but the difference in damage is significant. So based on "your" logic "all dogs in your eyes are treat fairly"...... and that's where you are not seeing that in the bigger world (they are). What I mean by this is you said "any dogs bites to such a degree in your house and you would pts? but in my households a yorki or lab or spaniel can repeat offend, Akitas cannot!! mainly because the first time is severe enough and B, that's one huge head strong animal to lose control of!!
Do I love the breed? yes, they are incredibly rewarding, do they suit most family homes....no. Especially those with no dog experiance.

You say yourself "They need careful and firm handling and need to respect you", I could say that to everybody who asks me but I don't feel it's enough im affraid, they need to know the consiquence of what can go wrong once ruining such a breed..... In reality most people cannot even manage that with the most docile of breeds, so there it is.
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I agree - any large breed is a quarter way to death row without any history. Rotties and Akita's are half way there. The added problem is that people don't let their dogs growl when unhappy. Where do they go next if they can't express themselves? Well they bite. I am happy for my dog to let me know when she is bothered by something.she will growl, but that is vocalisation, an generally letting people know that her legs hurt and doesn't want them trodden on. Would I treat any Akita I didn't know without respect? No.I do feel sorry for dogs, as the number of people who let their children come up to my dogs without asking is astounding. They are both great with kids and will take themselves off rather than make a fuss. I am also amazed by how people pat dog on the head. Try patting someone you know on the head and see how you like it. Would I do it to a strange big dog? No, that would be stupid. But I do tell people to not do any of these things, just as I would with any dog - that is being a good owner.
 
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Andym107 said:
…….. . The added problem is that people don't let their dogs growl when unhappy. Where do they go next if they can't express themselves? Well they bite. …….. .
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If you're considering that an owner accepts a warning from their dog, then the dog has the upper hand, and with a dog which has the make-up of an Akita, I'd say that it's asking for trouble. I was, once upon a time, in the company of dogs which would issue warnings, and made certain that I never allowed myself to get to the stage of being warned. The problem with breeds such as Akitas, and others too, is that they are all so often, owned by those who are blind to the danger signals. As CAYLA has rightly said, most, once out of hand, are on a one way trip, and perhaps rightly so.

ladyt25 said:
I wonder how the dog is now 5 years down the line.....
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I too was wondering what the outcome was.

Alec.
 
I have to say Ive never come across an aggressive BIchon Frise, they are one of the easiest dogs out there, the fact that Andys has bitten several people including a policeman is very worrying and if he cant cope with a Bichon what on earth is he doing with an Akita.

My dogs dont growl, yes I know its a warning but they wouldnt dare, if they thought I was about to step on them far from growling at me they would move and Im sure if I did step on them they wouldnt bite me either.
 
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