Joe Lively PTS

It was such an unfortunate camera angle, poor boy.

Not a nice thing to happen at any point but especially not in front of the stands.

Was i correct in thinking that a grey in the first suffered a similar fate? I only saw the replay and in the back of the shot a grey looked like it was on 3 legs...

I cant even begin to imagine what his lass/lad must feel like...i cant watch any of ours race.
 
xwp said:
Was i correct in thinking that a grey in the first suffered a similar fate? I only saw the replay and in the back of the shot a grey looked like it was on 3 legs...

I cant even begin to imagine what his lass/lad must feel like...i cant watch any of ours race.
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Lethal Glaze? Still waiting for news, but from what I've heard didn't sound too good :(
 
Both horses from smaller yards, and both very good horses.
Desperately sad for all connections, what heavy losses for them to bear.

Thoughts to all involved.
 
ElphabaFae said:
He suffered a broken hing leg :(

http://www.racingpost.com/news/hors...joe-lively-put-down-at-cheltenham/803902/top/

RIP Joe :(
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He was the 605 th horse to die on British race tracks in 1400 days/3 years and 8 months, think that works out at 0.43 a day, so every three days one dies. RIP Joe Lively and all those before you and after you.

I despise racing for this reason; please don't shoot me down in flames as I've heard all the arguments before. It is just my personal opinion and seeing it on this website proves what I am saying to be true.

http://www.horsedeathwatch.com/
 
applecart14 said:
He was the 605 th horse to die on British race tracks in 1400 days/3 years and 8 months, think that works out at 0.43 a day, so every three days one dies. RIP Joe Lively and all those before you and after you.

I despise racing for this reason; please don't shoot me down in flames as I've heard all the arguments before. It is just my personal opinion and seeing it on this website proves what I am saying to be true.

http://www.horsedeathwatch.com/
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Manipulated statisitics - do the maths for the percentage of deaths to runners, that will give you a far more objective view.
 
Caledonia said:
Manipulated statisitics - do the maths for the percentage of deaths to runners, that will give you a far more objective view.
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Yes I agree with what you are saying but its a shame any of them have to break legs in the name of sport. I know there are accidents in all equestrian disciplines some of them fatal, but racing does have more than its quota.
 
applecart14 said:
Yes I agree with what you are saying but its a shame any of them have to break legs in the name of sport. I know there are accidents in all equestrian disciplines some of them fatal, but racing does have more than its quota.
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The only reason you think that is because its the only sport that you see it happening in. And the only reason you see see it is because it's the ONLY sport that is regulated and documented for every horse and every race, and also has the trainers spot checked on regular basis.

Go behind the scenes at major events in other disciplines, and you will see plenty of injury/cruelty stuff that you don't see in racing, because racing is monitored so strictly.

Do you see every round of SJ, every dressage test, every XC round, every minute of endurance?

Find the equivalent documentation for the other disciplines to back your argument up, and only then will you have a valid point.
 
Caledonia said:
The only reason you think that is because its the only sport that you see it happening in. And the only reason you see see it is because it's the ONLY sport that is regulated and documented for every horse and every race, and also has the trainers spot checked on regular basis.

Go behind the scenes at major events in other disciplines, and you will see plenty of injury/cruelty stuff that you don't see in racing, because racing is monitored so strictly.

Do you see every round of SJ, every dressage test, every XC round, every minute of endurance?

Find the equivalent documentation for the other disciplines to back your argument up, and only then will you have a valid point.
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Well said and agreed!
Horse racing in my opinion has the most televised and press reported coverage of any of the horse sports, so access to information on what happens to horses when they race is easily accessible to the public.
In addition horse racing -I would be so bold as to say hand on heart- has the most equines both competing and being bred for the sport than any other horse sport.
When you consider both those factors is it any wonder that it would seem there is a higher number of fatalities? Large numbers of horses in the sport will mean more animals at risk due to there being a greater number competing.
 
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