Joint supplements

[AmyMay]

Daisy is 9 years old now. She’s been on Yumove joint supplement since she was 5 to support her joints as she’s very active and can walk about 6 miles a day on average (Bichon

I’m feeling that she may need a slightly higher grade joint support and wondering if I should move her up to the Yumove plus.

Does anyone have any experience of this.

Obligitory photo obviously

 

[Clodagh]

Riaflex or synoquin are both far better than yumove in my opinion. Yumove is all about the advertising.

 

[Andie02]

Have a look at Riaflex on their facebook page on 28th November, there is a chart showing the ingredients in the comparisons of their products and many others including Yumove.

 

[Teaselmeg]

I feed Riaflex and also now Antinol, as my girl did several years of agility.

 

[Clodagh]

Have a look at Riaflex on their facebook page on 28th November, there is a chart showing the ingredients in the comparisons of their products and many others including Yumove.

Thank you for that. Very clearly put.
synoquin not that good at all .

 

[TheresaW]

Oh! We've just started Ellie on Synoquin.

 

[Clodagh]

Oh! We've just started Ellie on Synoquin.

My fault!

 

[splashgirl45]

I gave my old collie yumove advance which only comes from the vet and it really improves her movement ..

 

[Morwenna]

I use Riaflex for me and have really noticed a difference in my dodgy knees. Am thinking of putting the puppy on it when she’s a bit older.

 

[druid]

Have a look at Riaflex on their facebook page on 28th November, there is a chart showing the ingredients in the comparisons of their products and many others including Yumove.

It's not entirely accurate - it states Antinol has 100mg of GLM, in reality it has 100mg of PCSO-524 an extract of GLM which is much more potent as an anti-inflammatory. Good marketing for Riaflex though....

 

[AmyMay]

Many thanks everyone for their comments. I’ve ordered some Riaflex.

 

[TRECtastic]

My beagle was on yumove for a few years , he's just gone 10 , last year I changed to riaflex after chatting with some friends that do agility with their dogs

 

[EchoInterrupted]

Alright, don't shoot me down as I have nothing against Riaflex and just want to make sure I'm getting all the information I can before potentially swapping from yumove to riaflex. We are just now looking at joint supplements as well as we've been on yumove (regular version) for a while and are considering upgrading.

I looked up the Riaflex chart some people have mentioned and I have to say the first thing I thought was "okay, but how much of that can actually be absorbed in one day and how much just comes out the other end." Surely at some point just "adding more mg" isn't actually going to make a difference, or could even be harmful for certain things. See here: "Despite the widespread dogma that nutritional joint health products are universally safe, hepatotoxicity associated with joint supplement overdosage in dogs has been previously reported (1). Furthermore, recent literature in human and veterinary medicine suggests that joint supplements containing glucosamine and chondroitin result in liver damage (2–6)." - https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4357907/ Obviously this not specifically about riaflex, but it makes me cautious about blindly believing in "more is better" when it's something my dog will be getting daily for the foreseeable future.

Does anyone know if Riaflex has done clinical trials and who formulates them? The website mentions the person who runs the company is an "established sports and animal practitioner", but this doesn't mean that they know about bioavailability of vitamins/minerals, correct formulation, toxicity levels, etc. They mention elsewhere they are "science backed" but I don't see any info about what that means. Does anyone have any insight?

For yumove with them being a larger company I know they have a large R&D division, have done clinical trials, etc. which makes me more comfortable using them. I'm definitely open to swapping, but may end up reaching out to Riaflex for more info directly before considering it. Would appreciate any info anyone has on any of this.

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[Squeak]

Alright, don't shoot me down as I have nothing against Riaflex and just want to make sure I'm getting all the information I can before potentially swapping from yumove to riaflex. We are just now looking at joint supplements as well as we've been on yumove (regular version) for a while and are considering upgrading.

I looked up the Riaflex chart some people have mentioned and I have to say the first thing I thought was "okay, but how much of that can actually be absorbed in one day and how much just comes out the other end." Surely at some point just "adding more mg" isn't actually going to make a difference, or could even be harmful for certain things. See here: "Despite the widespread dogma that nutritional joint health products are universally safe, hepatotoxicity associated with joint supplement overdosage in dogs has been previously reported (1). Furthermore, recent literature in human and veterinary medicine suggests that joint supplements containing glucosamine and chondroitin result in liver damage (2–6)." - https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4357907/ Obviously this not specifically about riaflex, but it makes me cautious about blindly believing in "more is better" when it's something my dog will be getting daily for the foreseeable future.

Does anyone know if Riaflex has done clinical trials and who formulates them? The website mentions the person who runs the company is an "established sports and animal practitioner", but this doesn't mean that they know about bioavailability of vitamins/minerals, correct formulation, toxicity levels, etc. They mention elsewhere they are "science backed" but I don't see any info about what that means. Does anyone have any insight?

For yumove with them being a larger company I know they have a large R&D division, have done clinical trials, etc. which makes me more comfortable using them. I'm definitely open to swapping, but may end up reaching out to Riaflex for more info directly before considering it. Would appreciate any info anyone has on any of this.

edited for typo

Thank you for this, you've just put so much better than I ever have about equine joint supplements - also backed up by Druids comments - it's very hard to take mg comparisons and also the advertisement comparisons from companies. People usually go for the ones with the highest mg of some of the substances where when I've spoken to GWF, they've done HUGE amounts of research in to their supplements and the bioavailability etc. you get the full amount that they can absorb in one day and the mg seem lower because theirs has the better formulas and delivery methods etc. Personally I have had great results with their supplement.

FYI - GWF do also do a canine joint supplement but it doesn't seem one of the popular ones right now?

 

[EchoInterrupted]

FYI - GWF do also do a canine joint supplement but it doesn't seem one of the popular ones right now?

Ooh, I will take a look at this, thanks for mentioning!

 

[Errin Paddywack]

I use GWF Joint Aid and have done for years as has my sister. We both really rate it. Have tried Yumove but JA suited my dogs far better. Seems very palatable, just tiny granules you add to their feed. I buy it through Amazon, cheaper than through GWF themselves.

 

[Clodagh]

I used to feed joint aid. Tbh over the years I’ve fed everything. To be completely honest I’ve never noted a lot of difference but if the dogs are visibly stiff in spite of a supplement ( any one) I go vet and NSAIDS.
I’m now a convert to giving them an equine one. With 6 ( as it was) it’s heaps cheaper. All look fine.

 

[poiuytrewq]

I find we get really good regular with Boswellia for dogs. I think I pay £17 ish a tub and for a lab size he gets 1/4 tsp in his food and I really do notice the difference.