Julio Mariner

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Does anyone have any info about Julio Mariner? I know about his racing career, but very little after he was exported.

Perhaps someone has a son/daughter of his? Anything about him really
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I have known quite a few event horses by Julio mariner. They tend to be classy animals and as said above can be sharp. But trained and focused the right way they can be very talented and have alot to give and a very good jump
 
Thanks for your replies. OH used to look after him when he was a bona fide TB sire, up until he was exported to Holland in 1987. I always thought he was a lovely looking horse and had a lovely pedigree. The horse himself was incrediaby laid back and quiet. He was OH's favourite stallion.

Magic104 thanks for that link. Julio looks very different with all of his plaits! And I have now spent several hours looking at numerous horses on that site.............LOL

BTW I have heard him refered to as Hulio Mariner, but his name is pronouced Julie-o Mariner. This comes from being a full brother to Juliette Marney (winner of 1975 Oaks)
 
An extract from this article ( JM's owner in holland Jan Greve)-
http://www.horsemagazine.com/ARTICLES/G/Greve/TwJG.html

Sadly for Jan, Voltaire’s death followed not long after the death of another fine jumping stallion, Julio Mariner. This horse, an English Thoroughbred, was a fine example of Bernard le Courtois’ observation, that sometimes a change of locale is vital in a stallion’s career. In his native Briton, Julio Mariner was a superstar on the track, winning the St Leger, but had limited success at stud before he was imported to Holland by Jan in 1988, when he soon set about carving himself a niche in jumping breeding history.
Looking at the career of Julio Mariner, what do you think he added to the breeding program?
“He produced extremely careful horses, and very quick from the ground, amazing quick reactions. And of course, when you breed to the Thoroughbreds, the main goal is to produce mares. You don’t use a Thoroughbred to produce good sport horses mainly it is to produce good half blood mares. The problem is that a lot of his mares are not too big, but the small ones are the better ones, 15.3 hh, 16 hh from Julio make excellent mares – but lots of people didn’t want to use them because they were too small. I have lots of Julio mares, and you can use them with a bigger stallion.”
 
Interesting that he was used to try and produce mares to then breed on to other Dutch stallions, rather than riding horses, and yet you see the likes of Prince Thatch and Lauries Crusador being used to produce both breeding stock and sport horses
 
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Interesting that he was used to try and produce mares to then breed on to other Dutch stallions, rather than riding horses, and yet you see the likes of Prince Thatch and Lauries Crusador being used to produce both breeding stock and sport horses

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I think the main reason is that -- unlike the Germans -- there is no significant breeding programme policy or stallion selection programme designed to produce event horses in The Netherlands. Also the lightening process in Dutch horses is usually done using Trakehners (hence the popularity of Gribaldi (and years ago Marius' sire Marco Polo). Of course Samber's sire (Pericles) was a TB -- and so was Dutch Courage's (Millerole) but in both cases these seem to have been pretty much one-offs and the dam's concerned were probably best described as 'substantial' so a direct shot of TB would have been of obvious benefit as the descendents of thes etwo stallions have proved.
 
Just been watching an offspring of Julio on the internet and then found this thread.

In response to Ciss: Lauries Crusader and Prince Thatch are/were used as dressage and refining sires and not as part of an eventing breeding programme.
 
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