Jump For Joy jump stands

[ann-jen]

We have these at the yard and I wondered if anyone knows how accurate the height measurements are running up the stands. Also is the height written on the stand the height of the jump with a cup in that particular hole or would the height be equivalent to the level of the top of the pole? So with the cup a hole lower.
Just wondered because I always assumed the height was equivalent to the top of the pole BUT when I went to a show yesterday that was also using JFJ stands the cups were in the hole marked 90cm and so the top of the pole would have been level with the 95cm mark for the BN. Not that 5cm should make that much difference in the scheme of things but it just got me wondering about it and now its bugging me. Think I'm going to have to get the tape measure out unless anyone knows off the top of their head.

 

[LauraBR]

Don't know for sure but have always assumed the measurement next to the hole meant 'if you stick a pole on here it will reach x height'.

 

[sillygillyhorse]

There was a post about this the other week and I think I am correct in saying that Spotted Cat had measured them and found that to have the top of the pole measuring at, say, 90cm you need to drop the cup down a hole to 85cm.

 

[dixie]

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There was a post about this the other week and I think I am correct in saying that Spotted Cat had measured them and found that to have the top of the pole measuring at, say, 90cm you need to drop the cup down a hole to 85cm.

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Am sure this is correct.

The BSJA rules say the height of a class can have a 5cm difference, so 95cm is allowed in a 90cm class - or so I believe - sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[ann-jen]

Thats interesting because I've always put the cup in 85cm to measure at 90cm or BN height and thats what my instructor told me too. 90cm like that measures to my hip and when I've walked courses they've always been equivalent to that height. But it would then mean the entire course was 5cm overbuilt yesterday. I thought 85% of the course had to be built to the specific height - which I've usually found meant the first fence was a hole lower than the rest of the course at the correct height. I do wonder a bit about the venue yesterday because the warm up arena was boggy/deep beyond belief and you had to walk through it to put entries on/declare etc which wasn't actually that safe on foot! There is a much nicer venue near me that lost its BSJA status on the basis that the warm up arena was too small so I do wonder how the venue yesterday managed to pass.

 

[Equus Leather]

Ooooo ann-jen...I wonder where that was? I've been looking at BSJA venues in the area. Could you PM me which one it was so know where to avoid?

 

[sammiea]

to get the height state on the wings you need to put the cup in the hole belowso then once pole is on cup the jump measures correctly.

 

[kirstyhen]

I've been told this is the difference between BSJA and BE, BE measure to the top of the pole, whereas BSJA measure to the cup and the stick a pole on.
I took my boy to a local PC SJ comp, run under BSJA rules, for a nice run at 80cm..... everything was 90cm and above! As we were walking the course (already thinking this is big!) a little man was frantically running round sticking everything else up! 10cms is a lot for my heffalump!

 

[Rambo]

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I've been told this is the difference between BSJA and BE, BE measure to the top of the pole, whereas BSJA measure to the cup and the stick a pole on.
I took my boy to a local PC SJ comp, run under BSJA rules, for a nice run at 80cm..... everything was 90cm and above! As we were walking the course (already thinking this is big!) a little man was frantically running round sticking everything else up! 10cms is a lot for my heffalump!

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No........BSJA is built to the correct height (i.e measured to the top of the pole) as is every other discipline. The difference is that BSJA can, and often do, build 5cms over height as they are allowed to do. This is often the case on a surface arena where the good ground conditions give the horse a 5cms advantage over grass or lesser surfaces

 

[ann-jen]

I never knew that - although I suppose it makes sense about the surface - which was alright in the actual arena. I bet they never entertain their right to build it 5cm smaller though.