Jump Heights Question...

[HeresHoping]

Good morning, and hello... just thought I'd introduce myself before launching into extracting information from all of you for my personal gain.

I've just joined, having finally purchased my own horse. I'd had a KWPN mare on loan for the last two years (after a 20 year hiatus) but sadly she broke down in a very significant way (being stupid in the field) so she has gone to stud. Now I have a TB ex racer to bring on - all mine -and am loving every minute of it.

Right, my query. Please help settle an argument that goes around our yard once and for all. Some of our yard members compete on the affiliated circuits, others don't but we cannot agree on this.

If you are measuring the height of a show jump, do you:

a) measure from the ground to the top of the top pole? or

b) measure from the ground to the middle of the top pole.

I have asked both BSJA and the FEI but have heard nothing from either and suspect that the powers that be may be a bit tied up in the Olympics.

Many thanks for your responses.

 

[meardsall_millie]

Ground to the top of the pole - it would get very complicated with different thicknesses of poles if you tried to measure to the middle!

 

[claire_p2001]

I agree you measure to the top of the top pole

 

[ArcticFox]

ground to top of the pole. welcome to HHO forum!

 

[lizstuguinness]

To the top of the pole.

I suspect that why people think its to the middle of the pole has to do with hole for the cups? The holes should be placed so that when the fence is built, it measures no more than the maximum height- fences can of course be lower than the maximum height allowed. For example to build a 1.2m fence the hole for the cup is somewhere around around 1.15 then allowing the pole ontop, brings it to 1.2.

Welcome to HH!

 

[HeresHoping]

Thank you. In between writing my post and sneaking in a two seconds of supposed work I heard from the BSJA. I wrote an almost identical query:

When measuring the height of a fence, where does the record of height sit, please. Opinions are divided between: a) from the ground to the top of the pole provided the jump is not set in a dip; and
b) from the ground to the middle of the top pole of the fence. Thank you very much indeed, and I look forward to your response.

And I have just received the following answer:

Thanks for your email the answer is B

Now I am really confused.

Oh well, you live and learn.

Thank you for being on my side.

 

[lizstuguinness]

So next time my horse knocks down a fence just by touching it gently i can appeal on the grounds that he still jumped X height as thats where the measuremet comes form, and therefore he shouldnt be expected to jump higher than the maxiumum height for the class????????

let me text a BSJA course builder - ill get back to you when i have an anser

 

[HeresHoping]

So next time my horse knocks down a fence just by touching it gently i can appeal on the grounds that he still jumped X height as thats where the measuremet comes form, and therefore he shouldnt be expected to jump higher than the maxiumum height for the class????????

let me text a BSJA course builder - ill get back to you when i have an anser

Well, quite. My arguments exactly. And if you have planks that are 6" wide, do you measure to the middle of them, too?

It has all changed since I were a lass... when I last competed in anything worth competing in, Discovery didn't exist and we still talked about getting restricted placings to qualify for a Novice open.

Looking forward to your BSJA course builder's response. And am very grateful.

 

[starryeyed]

I thought it was from the ground to the top of the pole too!

 

[wench]

Perhaps they have taken your interpretation that you measure the jump in the middle... between the wings...

I am sure at BSJA/FEI stuff I have seen jumps where the have set the poles on an angle like this: / (ie obviously not as steep!) between the wings

 

[HeresHoping]

Perhaps they have taken your interpretation that you measure the jump in the middle... between the wings...

I am sure at BSJA/FEI stuff I have seen jumps where the have set the poles on an angle like this: / (ie obviously not as steep!) between the wings

But it does say 'in the middle of the pole' and previously talks about the top of the pole. Short of drawing a diagramme and resending for confirmation, I am not sure how much clearer I can make the question.

Actually, have photoshop so will draw diagramme and send.

 

[HeresHoping]

Well, having confused everyone including myself, I drew a diagramme and resent to the BSJA.

They apologise and say that you do indeed measure from the ground to the TOP of the pole.