Jump Saddle Fitting Problems

sbloom

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Monoflap should make no difference as far as I'm concerned, but equally saddles can stay in place for the wrong reasons, you need to follow all other saddle fitting guidelines too (not saying you haven't :)). A freedom tree means a wide head, it's not super flat, it can rock when it's not correct, and I see them with massive front gussets trying to compensate when they're on horses that don't need such a hoop tree.

I think footprint length is a big issue, flat tree, short panel, shallow or no gussets at the back. Other approaches may work, but that's the way I'd go.
 

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Ok so I think im just going to have to learn to jump bareback!! The Ryder saddle that I thought was perfect is not so perfect! Very nice to ride in, however as soon as I jumped anything of a half decent size, it went up her neck aand she bucked like mad! Now I was told by Ryder saddles themselves their trees and panels are flat, im at my whitsend! Im off to a saddlers tomorrow about 45 mins away to pick up as many as I can to try! If I dont find one I will be looking for recommendations for a bareback trainer ;-)
 

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Have you considered a solution, you can have a fitting and trial with no obligation for a very fair sum and their customer service is far superior to many so called specialist companies.

I have a hard to fit Welsh C which every saddle ever has gone up her neck in the last 4 years, however the solution, which was actually bought for my other horse, does not do it. So happy I got this saddle, my cob is finally able to use her shoulders after years of what I realise now was poorly fitting saddles (fitted at great expense by so called expert fitting company by the way!).

Of course not a answer for everyone but I feel their terms mean you don't lose much by trying them!
 

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I'm not sure they are, they don't look like Ideals, though he may use their trees I think they're made to his own designs which means the panel and how they fit the horse. I'd also say the quality is quite different, unlike the rebadged Ideals from several fitters. Many companies would use Walsall Riding trees which are Ideal trees.
 

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Have you considered a solution, you can have a fitting and trial with no obligation for a very fair sum and their customer service is far superior to many so called specialist companies.

I have a hard to fit Welsh C which every saddle ever has gone up her neck in the last 4 years, however the solution, which was actually bought for my other horse, does not do it. So happy I got this saddle, my cob is finally able to use her shoulders after years of what I realise now was poorly fitting saddles (fitted at great expense by so called expert fitting company by the way!).

Of course not a answer for everyone but I feel their terms mean you don't lose much by trying them!

^^^^This. I would really recommend trying one. You can hire one for as long as you want until you're sure about it. They look and work so 'normally' that most people can't tell they're treeless, but because they're fully flexible they tend not to get shoved about by the horse's movement as much as treed saddles.
 

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Maybe consider a Wow. For a fee fitter will come and fit one and let you trial it, then give you a list of the component parts you need so you can find the parts yourself - I assume other fitters would do the same.

Would let you see if one would suit and then keep the cost down of the new to you saddle.
 
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