Pennyhp
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I would like to get others opinions as to whether it is a good idea to jump a horse/pony in a standing martingale?
Jumping in a standing martingale
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jillygem
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Personally I would never jump in a standing martingale, I think its far to restricting for the horse and may cause them to be reluctant to jump due to this. I would be much happier to jump with a running martingale if needed.
miss_c
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No, never. Horse cannot stretch and like jillygem says, could make them reluctant to jump. It really is one of my pet hates.
siennamum
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Perfectly good idea if there is a sensible reason for using it in the first place and it's fitted correctly.
scribble
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would never do it and is one of my pet hates too. use running one yes but not a standing. you may end up injuring the horse as it tries to jump with it on.
millitiger
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if fitted correctly, there is no reason not to jump in a standing martingale.
the top jumpers of yesteryear managed to jump huge courses with standing martingales so to say they are dangerous is rubbish.
the top jumpers of yesteryear managed to jump huge courses with standing martingales so to say they are dangerous is rubbish.
Dizzykizzy
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if fitted correctly, there is no reason not to jump in a standing martingale.
the top jumpers of yesteryear managed to jump huge courses with standing martingales so to say they are dangerous is rubbish.
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Who said they are dangerous?
I don't like to see horses jumped in standing martingales but that is usually because they have been fitted to be restrictive. In pony club you aren't allowed to use them for jumping.
if fitted correctly, there is no reason not to jump in a standing martingale.
the top jumpers of yesteryear managed to jump huge courses with standing martingales so to say they are dangerous is rubbish.
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Who said they are dangerous?
I don't like to see horses jumped in standing martingales but that is usually because they have been fitted to be restrictive. In pony club you aren't allowed to use them for jumping.
leosmum
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My daughters ja pony jumped with one no problem for years, as said if fitted correctly they cause no problems.
spacefaer
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Hate to disagree but .........
I hunt in a standing martingale - fitted corectly - and have never had any problems. I hate running martingales - I don't like the way they interfere with my contact - and I see more badly fitting and incorrectly used running marts than standing marts causing any trouble at all
People don't seem to realise that the action of the runner on the reins works like a pulley - and anyone who understands basics physics knows that this will increase the strength of the rider's hands.
A properly fitted stander will not interfere with the horse's jumping - a lot of damage can be done by a badly fitted runner with rough hands.
I hunt in a standing martingale - fitted corectly - and have never had any problems. I hate running martingales - I don't like the way they interfere with my contact - and I see more badly fitting and incorrectly used running marts than standing marts causing any trouble at all
People don't seem to realise that the action of the runner on the reins works like a pulley - and anyone who understands basics physics knows that this will increase the strength of the rider's hands.
A properly fitted stander will not interfere with the horse's jumping - a lot of damage can be done by a badly fitted runner with rough hands.
dieseldog
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I now much prefer standing martingales to running.
I can't believe that people still bang on about how dangerous and restricting they are, maybe that is because they don't know how to fit them properly?
The people that dislike them so much, have you ever actually ridden in one?
How do you injure a horse wearing one? How is it restricting, how does it make a horse reluctant to jump?
If they are so bad why is it legal to jump BSJA in one?
I can't believe that people still bang on about how dangerous and restricting they are, maybe that is because they don't know how to fit them properly?
The people that dislike them so much, have you ever actually ridden in one?
How do you injure a horse wearing one? How is it restricting, how does it make a horse reluctant to jump?
If they are so bad why is it legal to jump BSJA in one?
*hic*
village idiot :D
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I now much prefer standing martingales to running.
I can't believe that people still bang on about how dangerous and restricting they are, maybe that is because they don't know how to fit them properly?
The people that dislike them so much, have you ever actually ridden in one?
How do you injure a horse wearing one? How is it restricting, how does it make a horse reluctant to jump?
If they are so bad why is it legal to jump BSJA in one?
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What she said!
I now much prefer standing martingales to running.
I can't believe that people still bang on about how dangerous and restricting they are, maybe that is because they don't know how to fit them properly?
The people that dislike them so much, have you ever actually ridden in one?
How do you injure a horse wearing one? How is it restricting, how does it make a horse reluctant to jump?
If they are so bad why is it legal to jump BSJA in one?
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What she said!
Thistle
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Depends on the horse really and how it's fitted.
WE use an elasticated standing of F for her flat work and occasionally jump it it.
A martingale should never be fitted to hold the head down, merely to prevent the horse raising it's head above the angle of control.
WE use an elasticated standing of F for her flat work and occasionally jump it it.
A martingale should never be fitted to hold the head down, merely to prevent the horse raising it's head above the angle of control.
millitiger
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Who said they are dangerous?
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someone above said they can injure a horse if it tries to jump in a standing martingale- in my books injuring a horse would make it dangerous.
but, as i said before, if fitted correctly i don't see a problem and don't understand why so many people don't like them but are happy to ride in a running martingale which acts on and pulls your horse's mouth.
Who said they are dangerous?
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someone above said they can injure a horse if it tries to jump in a standing martingale- in my books injuring a horse would make it dangerous.
but, as i said before, if fitted correctly i don't see a problem and don't understand why so many people don't like them but are happy to ride in a running martingale which acts on and pulls your horse's mouth.
Nailed
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I would.. just because i dont 'do' martingales if i can help it.
They arnt dangerous.. and not that restricting if they are fitted right.. And if there not fitted right then there is no point to them..
Lou x
They arnt dangerous.. and not that restricting if they are fitted right.. And if there not fitted right then there is no point to them..
Lou x
Zambo
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If it is right for you and your horse then why not, as long as they are correctly fitted. One of the horses i ride, always had a pole in anything over 2'9", because there was always this discussion between us of him thinking he knew better, and would either pull his head down or stick his nose out, (he doesn't like the running as it gives a false contact), so I spoke to somebody I know who is competing at a high level, and he suggested a standing, well the first time I used it we went clear over a metre class, something I had given up on the idea off!!! Things have just gone in leaps and bounds from there.
Sooty
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The advantage of a standing martingale over a running one is that it doesn't interfere with the bit. Plenty of people seem to jump successfully in them.
Pennyhp
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Thanks everyone for your views.
I do not like martingales of any description. But as others have rightly pointed out sometimes they are neccessary.
I was always taught that standing martingales were NOT to be jumped in.
However I now live in Canada and so many things in the horseworld are different.
I went to see a show and in the "hunter" classes which are jumping, standing martingales are allowed up to 3'.
While most of them were fitted corectly and didn't interfere, there were a couple jumping in standing martingales that were far to tight.
I have to say I agree with the dislike of the running martingale and interference with contact and its leverage.
much as I love Canada there are times when I think that I have woken up in the land of OZ when it comes to horses here.
I do not like martingales of any description. But as others have rightly pointed out sometimes they are neccessary.
I was always taught that standing martingales were NOT to be jumped in.
However I now live in Canada and so many things in the horseworld are different.
I went to see a show and in the "hunter" classes which are jumping, standing martingales are allowed up to 3'.
While most of them were fitted corectly and didn't interfere, there were a couple jumping in standing martingales that were far to tight.
I have to say I agree with the dislike of the running martingale and interference with contact and its leverage.
much as I love Canada there are times when I think that I have woken up in the land of OZ when it comes to horses here.