Jumping in a treeless

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Getting mixed answers off the internet: can you or can't you jump in a treeless saddle? I was under the impression that you couldn't as there was nothing to absorb the impact of the rider on the horse's back but some places do seem to have people jumping in treeless saddles...?
 
Solution saddles are suitable to jump any height and are competition legal. There is someone who has done a 4* event in a solution saddle.

I think pretty much all other treeless saddles are either unsuitable for jumping or only suitable for very small jumps.
 
webble said:
I have jumped in Heather MOffett and solution saddles albeit not very high but that is a reflection on me not the saddle. I think it will depend on the saddle, some are more pad like and less stable that others
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These are the only 2 I would jump in, prefer solution of the two. Some of them a far to unstable.
 
Surely if people can jump bareback (not all people, but some talented brave ones!) and one can't jump in a particular kind of saddle that is a reflection on the saddle's basic unsuitability for the purpose of going between horse and rider? I mean I get that knee rolls/stirrups etc can *help* jumping but if a saddle *prevents* jumping there is a wider issue, no?
 
GirlFriday said:
Surely if people can jump bareback (not all people, but some talented brave ones!) and one can't jump in a particular kind of saddle that is a reflection on the saddle's basic unsuitability for the purpose of going between horse and rider? I mean I get that knee rolls/stirrups etc can *help* jumping but if a saddle *prevents* jumping there is a wider issue, no?
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I dont know brands but I have seen/ ridden in some god awful treeless saddles that are unstable, uncomfortable and most importantly unbalancing. Yes there are some good ones ( two above are the only ones I would buy) but there are some dangerous and uncomfortable ones that cause more harm than good and hurt the horse but because of clever marketing and people beleiving they are better for the horse they seem to stay in business. I rode in one the othersay which was a a bit like a western saddle and it moved all over the place, horse hated it and it had caused the owner to fall off said horse. Horse was much happier in a corrrectly fitted treed saddle although not trendy for endurance riding!
 
I've jumped in two different sorts. A Barefoot Cheyenne, but it had no knee rolls, although surprisingly comfortable, despite the high pommel. The other I jump regularly in is my Holistic Freedom saddle, which look just like a regular GP, and rides like one too. never had any issues, and the horses are happy in them too.
 
I ride in a Barefoot Cheyenne and was told when I bought it (10+ years ago now) you can jump up to 1m in them. I still prefer a treed saddle for jumping though. I like using the treeless for pole work though :)
 
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