Jumping Pups

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And whilst we're at it, I don't believe wheat is good for humans either, hence our original diet also being made up of over 97% fat and protein 3% carbs

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Agree with this completely. I have a horrible allergy to tree pollen, but found it disappeared completely last year when I avoided wheat. Quinoa and brown rice seem to be much easier on the system, digestive and otherwise.

If I didn't live in an apartment, I'd be tempted to feed raw. It's bad enough that Miss Stella has to drag her stinky beef bone into the TV room to be near us
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The dog that cannot be fed fat? As laughable as a horse that cannot eat grass.

How can you compare NH to feeding dogs RAW?

It is your dog with arthritis and not any of mine.

I'll tell you now our dog we lost a few years ago was 14 y.o GSD, she had been working for the police from 6 months, they jump them in training as of 6 months and they aren't worked lightly, she was then a security dog for dad, she'd regularly fly 4 - 6 ft walls yet her hips didn't go and she didn't get arthritis.

Where is your proof that jumping dogs under one year can lead to arthritis?

Facts? Buy the book, its full of them.
 
Because it makes the dog ill, she has an inflamed pancreas and has to be fed a fat free diet to avoid reoocurance.
I'm not sure what your point is about cakes biscuits and bread is tbh.
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Where are the statistics and research? It is known that impact on joint surfaces can cause arthritis, particularly while the growth plates are still immature.
Do you disagree that jumping/overexercising pups is bad for them?
 
'The dog that cannot be fed fat? As laughable as a horse that cannot eat grass.'
I'll go tell them to put her down now? As that's the alternative if she keeps getting reoccurances.
yes, and I know why she has arthritis, breeding combined with overexercise.
Bet she didn't do the 4-6ft walls as a pup though? If she did well wasn't she lucky...
I'm not spending money on the book when it is like parelli, drawing people in against the 'big bad dog food companies'.
Conspiracy theories....
Ask any vet when to jump a dog, it won't be as a pup I can guarantee you.
 
"Potato Starch 40%, Herring fish 15%, Soya protein 15%, Poultry fat, Beet pulp, Brewers yeast, Egg, Calcium carbonate, Dicalcium phosphate, Salt, Chicory"

Why does a dog need potato starch? and Soya? Potatoes cannot really be classed as a veggie because although most fruits and veggies are carbs they are not complex. The potato is not a very old veggie either.

Soya?? What possible benefit could Soya have on a dog? Beet pulp? The same. They are just cheap bulking agents, nothing more and nothing less.

I will say as far as dry dog food goes, it is one of the better brands.
 
Any problems with the pancreas you feed pigs pancreas. And what are these problems caused by? Oh yes, complete dog feed. I've never heard of a dog that is fed RAW having any of these conditions and along with friends we've been feeding RAW combined for nearly 60 years. One of the above has over 20 breeding bitches and dogs.

'It is widely known' are not facts.

I completely disagree with over working pups and even allowing them to climb stairs, all of my young stocks exercise is limited.

But I disagree with you that this is the only cause to so many of the problems associated with dogs. M has a husky bitch who has run in harness since 7 months, had 4 litters of pups, fed RAW all of her life and is 15 y.o. No arthritis e.t.c she has partial sight and is slightly deaf, not bad for a working dog.
 
well there you go, you are saying the same thing as I am!....
I am not claiming it is the only cause, like you seem to be suggesting all problems are caused by dog food, your argument has me completely flummoxed why you appear to be argueing against overworking causing any problems in later life and then claim you aren't.
I diagree with you over complete dog food, I see it as a conspiracy theorists thing, sorry. And I'm not really sure how that came into this discussion in the first place.
 
"'The dog that cannot be fed fat? As laughable as a horse that cannot eat grass.'
I'll go tell them to put her down now? As that's the alternative if she keeps getting reoccurances."

What is the cause? Dogs that have been fed RAW from word go don't develop these problems. If left alone (meaning not hunted and shot) wolves will live beyond 15 years(and have HARD lives), yet our domesticated dogs (who come from 3 foundation female wolves) are classed a good age if they reach 12/13y.o yet have extremely cushy lives. How many dogs on complete dog foods are developing cancer, organ failiure e.t.c? Vets are not going to complain are they? They're making a fortune out of it.

"yes, and I know why she has arthritis, breeding combined with overexercise.
Bet she didn't do the 4-6ft walls as a pup though? If she did well wasn't she lucky..."

She would have jumped, during police training but I doubt she jumped 4-6ft. As a child my fathers exercise wasn't limited, in fact he would have to walk a 12 mile round trip to school, he hasn't contracted arthritis.

"I'm not spending money on the book when it is like parelli, drawing people in against the 'big bad dog food companies'.
Conspiracy theories....
Ask any vet when to jump a dog, it won't be as a pup I can guarantee you."

How you can liken it to Parelli is beyond me, its not a method of training, its an aproach to feeding. I have no reason to dislike feed companies, I'm not a butcher and I'm not selling RAW to the public for their dogs so what possible benefit would it be to me? Only the fact that my dogs won't become diseased and crippled. Vets, vets, vets, they're not always right and not everything they say is gospel, you ask my vet what she thinks of me, half the time I'm pointing things out to her, she laughs it off...I don't when I'm paying £30.00 for 15 mins!
 
Ok, let me put it to you this way.

If we have a pointer in training that is racing fit, he/she is going to be consuming 20lbs of hard feed and a section or two of hay. Totally awful diet for a horse. There are not many horses in or out of racing that don't have problems with feed/colic/vices (crib biting/windsucking) all are caused due to diet. The same goes for dogs. You are what you eat I'm afraid.
 
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