Jumping session (Pics and CC welcome!)

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Hey, yesterday I jumped Wings, and we were working on steadying him up and making him take his time so we didn't eat up related distances, or so I wasn't tanked off with :p

A friend has a very nice camera and took some pics for me:

Warming up:

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Little, single jumps:

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Slightly bigger single fences:

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Little double:

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Slightly bigger double with spread:

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Thanks for looking! We didn't do very big or technical jumps as I was focusing on getting him steady and more balanced :)

If anyone can give me any constructive criticism, it would be greatly appreciated (can give advice for either me or Wings :D )
 
Hee hee - love his face in the second to last pic :D

I'm not very good at crit, but here goes :)

Do your stirrups feel long, it looks like they coudl go up a bit tbh looking at your toe/leg position (something I always have to do, yank my stirrups right up :) )

I know people jump differently when someone is photographing, but in some pics over the fence you look like you are trying too hard, relax a bit more and just fold, which is probably what you do when no-one is taking pics ;)

No more jumping crit really, but on the flat I would say to ride a bit prouder. I tend to bury myself in my horses neck, but you need to ride a bit prouder, look up, hands up and boobs out. To take a quote from someone in CR - imagine your boobs as headlights don't dip, dazzle :) I know for jumping you need a more forwards seat, but I think you can do that and sit up a bit more :)
 
Yeah i'd agree with Stencilface

I'd suggest taking your stirrups up a hole for jumping to develop a more "secure" leg position.
Then for flat, sit up and sit back, we all have the habit of tipping forward, mainly over the inside shoulder. Also, you're hand appear to be quite fixed, remember outline isn't everything :)
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Remember; straight, forward and on a rhythm and use the impulsion from the inside leg to the outside hand to maintain power and give a little more with the inside. Exercises involving lots of changes of bend help with this alot, including shallow loops down the long side, sepertines etc

I also use an exercise where by I set up cones along the long side on the quarter line so say off the left rein.

Turning left onto the line, outside of cones, change to outside bend and move the horse left, few straight strides, change to inside bend and move horse right etc.

Really helps with the horses suppleness and moving off either leg.

I do love your horse though, looks so honest and genuine!
 
Thanks you guys, you give really good advice!! Yes, I am terrible for tipping forwards on the flat, I like the headlight suggestion :D As for the fixed hands, he goes into a nice outline normally, but was getting excited and tanking off a bit, so I think I was just taking a bit more of a firm hold than usual. Normally I have more relaxed hands/arms :p

Yes, I think I do need to put my stirrups up, and try less hard haha. I think I have them slightly longer than most people as he can wobble and sometimes run out, so I feel a little more secure with longer stirrups. Will try and pop them up a hole though :D
 
If you say he runs out, then I think sitting up and bringing your hands up should help that, even if you do put your stirrups up :)

Remember sit and wait for the fence to come to you :)
 
Stencilface said:
If you say he runs out, then I think sitting up and bringing your hands up should help that, even if you do put your stirrups up :)

Remember sit and wait for the fence to come to you :)
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and don't adopt jumping position until your horse is in the air ;)

Most common mistake I find when teaching jumping lessons
 
already been said by stencilface but you look just a little leant forward in your seat on the flat and your hands a little low. sit up more and hold your hands

don't like doing CC incase i'm totally wrong and then feel an idiot and don't class myself as that good of a rider :o:o
can't really say anything for the jumping seen as though i don't do much of that or had lessons for it :rolleyes:
 
Chloe..x said:
and don't adopt jumping position until your horse is in the air ;)

Most common mistake I find when teaching jumping lessons
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:D My most common mistake (well apart from not getting a proper canter) is dropping my hands at the fence, I do this especially when I can see no stride and can't make a decision of what to do :o
 
Thanks!

Chloe and Stencilface, I understand that and will try. I don't think I go forwards before he's taken off, as his refusals will dump you if you are forwards :p

I think I just dive forwards on take off so end up too forwards. Will take on board what you've said though :D
 
gonebananas - yeah, I really need to learn to sit back and lift my hands, I do try, but it feels wrong and I end up messing up everything else because I'm concentrating on my position too much :p
 
Pop into Competition Riders and check out Wormy's videos of her jumping her horses. Her style over fences is lovely and something to aim for - worth looking at :-)

Oh and I'm not saying your style is bad! Just Wormy's vids show how you sit up until the horse is in the air.
 
Look up, sit up, at the moment on the flat he is very on his forehand from the pics as you are concentrating on the front end. Steadying up is all very well but comes best from pushing him into your hand and then controlling the speed/impulsion with seat and hands.
Oh, and add ground poles to your jumps.
To give him soemthing to focus on, put a block in the middle of the jump, should give his mind something to think about.
 
Thanks you two, will go look at the videos.

SusieT - he's normally not on the forehand, just when he gets excited (I know he doesn't look it), he drags me along and does pop himself on the forehand. In a schooling session though, he is very active behind and light in the hand :)
 
Can someone alert the HHO member who made a thread about hating ponytails flapping in the wind to this thread pleeeeeeeeeeeese! LOL :D:p

OP pretty much agree with the advice already given. It's tough when riding a horse you know to be a dirty stopper eh?

Stick with it tho as you are doing fab and Wings looks very careful over the jumps. :)
 
Muchadoaboutnothing said:
Can someone alert the HHO member who made a thread about hating ponytails flapping in the wind to this thread pleeeeeeeeeeeese! LOL :D:p

OP pretty much agree with the advice already given. It's tough when riding a horse you know to be a dirty stopper eh?

Stick with it tho as you are doing fab and Wings looks very careful over the jumps. :)
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NOOO!!! I'll put it in a bun next time, I promise!! Don't tell them about me!!! :p :D

Thanks you two, he is very careful over the fences and gets quite offended if I stuff it up and make him knock a pole!

Will take everything that's been said on board and try and improve my position by leaning back more and lifting my hands slightly :D
 
Ok here goes...
Try to carry your hands a bit more rather than resting them on your lap, and sit up, wait for the jump to come to you, and don't fold until last minute.

Other than that, look like you're doing a good job, and your horse has a lovely jump :)
 
vikkiandmonica said:
Thanks you guys, you give really good advice!! Yes, I am terrible for tipping forwards on the flat, I like the headlight suggestion :D As for the fixed hands, he goes into a nice outline normally, but was getting excited and tanking off a bit, so I think I was just taking a bit more of a firm hold than usual. Normally I have more relaxed hands/arms :p

Yes, I think I do need to put my stirrups up, and try less hard haha. I think I have them slightly longer than most people as he can wobble and sometimes run out, so I feel a little more secure with longer stirrups. Will try and pop them up a hole though :D
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I don't think you need to worry too much about your stirrup length - its whatever length you feel secure with - I would however use some sort of wings with the jumps you use even if it is just a pole each side as I think the jumps you are using invite a horse to run out. Also it would be useful to build up a grid of three or four jumps in a row where room allows in your school - with the relevant distance in between depending on your horses stride. As you can then concentrate on your rhythem and position without having to worry about striding - this builds up confidence in you and your horse and is a good excersise to build up jumping muscle on your horse. Your position looks good - hope this helps
 
Hollywood said:
I don't think you need to worry too much about your stirrup length - its whatever length you feel secure with - I would however use some sort of wings with the jumps you use even if it is just a pole each side as I think the jumps you are using invite a horse to run out. Also it would be useful to build up a grid of three or four jumps in a row where room allows in your school - with the relevant distance in between depending on your horses stride. As you can then concentrate on your rhythem and position without having to worry about striding - this builds up confidence in you and your horse and is a good excersise to build up jumping muscle on your horse. Your position looks good - hope this helps
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Thanks for this! Will get more upright wings out next time, as he really does jump better with these. Will also try with the grid work, thanks for the suggestion, it really does help :D
 
I don't think people are being pedantic, I asked for advice and CC and I'm being given it, which I like! Thanks for all your ideas guys :D

(plus, the things people are saying about my position, I know are faults of mine, and I'm trying to fix them, so don't mind people pointing them out to me :) )
 
Jazzaria said:
I think people are being rather pedantic on this post even for cc but there ya go :)
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Another attempt at trolling....

She asked for help, and shes got it. There's nothing pedantic about it and as she's stated, she really appreciates all the help shes getting!
 
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