Jumping the over enthusiastic horse?

[clairebearnz]

Without wanting to sound like an idiot, can you explain what this is?

I'm sure there's better explanations (and photos) on the net than this but...

Automatic release is when the horse 'jumps out of the hand' and there's a straight line from bit to elbow. It means it's a lot easier to keep balance and control on an over enthusiastic horse, but you do have to have balance etc in your favour.

(And yes, you are supposed to actually close your hands on the reins!)

Working on my auto release on a day where Tally decided that taking flying leaps over jumps was a fantastic idea, hence my defensive position.

Compared to a crest release, where the hands are resting on the neck. It gives added balance, but means it's harder to regather on the landing side.

Small crest release on a horse determined to run on into fences.

 

[Jennyharvey]

He doesn't pull, he puts his head so high that the bit is useless.

If this is the case, then its even more importat not to pull him. He has learnt that by raising his head he can avoid the reins. Possibly if someone has pulled on his mouth in the past, as horses only really learn to throw there head up to avoid something. Keep your hands down also. If you raise your hands at all, he will raise his head too.

 

[Geema]

he looks amazing!

 

[Vickijay]

So I was just riding the counter-canter end of a figure-of-8 in my dressage saddle without stirrups when the horse locked onto a fence in the arena. It's maybe just as well you weren't there as my language was wholly unsuitable for 7am!

Mine locks onto actual arena fences of most schools I have ridden in (and has come out!) At home on 1 side it has a 5 foot fence with a 5 or 6 foot drop straight after and she was still up for coming over it Now thats when there is language that is not suitable for any time of the day!!!

Nice to know Im doing the same thing as you with poles before and after single jumps, interesting grids and lots of circles. No sitting trot though without stirrups for me though as I will probably bounce straight off and she will jump out!!!!

 

[ISH_lover]

Well at least im not the only one with a horse who thinks he should jump a metre above the actual height of the jump lol

and the best part is that he thinks its funny

 

[BronsonNutter]

The more I see of Tally, the more he reminds me of Bronts, such a sense of humour!

Wellsat, how old is your horse and has he done quite a lot of jumping before?
I only ask this because sometimes I think there becomes a point where you just can't change them fully - only work on going with what you've got, if you get what I mean? Bronson would never jump like a normal horse - we tried the whole circling in front of jumps in the hope that you could trick him, stopping immediately after, trying to stop on approach, flatwork around the jumps, attempting to walk/trot into a fence etc - none of which made the slightest bit of difference, as he would lock onto them as soon as you pointed in the vague direction of a fence and take you, no questions! In his later years, when he got a bit more senile p) he would just go upwards and bounce around for five on approach to a fence, then just carry on like normal. The only thing that ever worked was just to trust him and go with him!

However, if he's youngish then I'd imagine many of the suggestions already given could help Aswell as having a play about with bits - what type of mouthpiece is he in at the moment? Bronts was twice as strong if anything was double jointed (even hated NS bits!) and so was in a plain old loose ring, whereas Wilby throws his head up in a single link or flat link. Just might be worth having a think if there's anything more suitable for him

 

[wellsat]

CB - thanks, that makes alot of sense. I would have said that I'm doing an automatic release as my hands certainly don't rest on his neck when I'm jumping. Will have a lok back at the videos of the clinic to see what my hands are doing.

BN - He's 9 and an experienced BS horse that I'm hoping to do BE on this season. You're right, I don't think I'm going to be able to change his jump as such, I just need to learn to control it a little more and to go with it rather than being left behind and unbalance us both.

 

[tonkatoy]

http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=271930

had to post link to my 5 year old when he started jumping... as for the love of god i cant remember how to upload photos again lol

he jumped like this for abouut a year..all my comments at the future event horse were
' shows fantastic scope, pity he spends 20 seconds in the air at the moment, bit green'

haha!!

 

[tonkatoy]

think ive remembered how and just wanted to show you these 2 muppets in a 60cm class....
if nothing shows... then i havent remembered lol