Just a rant about social media!

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Was just scrolling down my fb newsfeed when I came across a picture that another friend had liked on the chit chat and tack page(I don't personally follow it) it was basically a picture of a very neatly done straw bed. I decided to have a little squint at the comments, I think just because I also love making my straw beds look perfect!

Anyways. I started reading them and it was just frustrating as people just pick up on the way she worded it about being a bit OCD about her beds or something along those lines, all I found myself reading is how OCD is a mental illness and it was all so serious when I'm sure it was just meant light-heartedly.

It really frustrates me how people are so quick to start an argument, especially over something as stupid as the way someone has worded a picture of her straw bed! It's pathetic!

And breathe!

Sorry just had to get that out there!
 
I had to leave that group. It seems to be a gathering stage for all the numpties who profess to love horses (if they did, they'd actually think before they buy after sitting on a horse a few times and loving it). Sometimes it comes up on my feed because my friends have commented on something...I end up reading all the comments and my blood pressure goes sky high!
 
ohhh THAT PAGE!!

I joined and left and then had to go and have a look on it for this picture, and I found a post by someone asking what they need to start their 2yr old cob pulling a trap... of course I had to look down the comments and they are idiotic! one person says 'why not racehorses get broken even younger' !!! I'm so annoyed now I hate being annoyed by these post!
 
I think that actually, whoever made that point is in the right. It's a really difficult and limiting mental disorder that gets completely trivialized through people thinking because they like to be tidy they're 'a bit OCD'. There are hundreds of words that could be used- anal, picky, particular, exacting, pernickety... Those are off the top of my head.

If someone says the appropriation of that words hurts them, the only response should be "I'm sorry, I won't do it again". It's the stepped on foot thing- it doesn't matter if you didn't mean to hurt the person whose foot you stepped on, you still did and therefore you say sorry.
 
It really does seem to be a meeting place for numpties with no clue I read a few more comments on other things and i was just like REALLY....did I actually just read that!
I did see the 2yo trap pony pic as well!

I'm not taking away that OCD is a serious condition(just incase that's what you were thinking) and yes maybe they could have worded it differently but on the likes of fb if one person comments then many more jump on the same train it's just irritating! It's not even with that one picture it's on anything people choose to put up publicly there is always people who are just out there to be nasty and spiteful and bullying but that's going in a completely different direction and I will stop myself before I start another rant! :)
 
Firstly, it should be CDO.

Secondly, I have some pretty severe repetitive tendencies that I can find extremely hard to control. Be it keeping it even between which foot touches wet or dry pavement, stones, bumps, white or yellow lines, steps up pavements or onto or over drain covers etc. Genuinely there is a need in me to find balance. If Dan tickles me on one side, I desperately need him to tickle me on the other side. All of these need to be in the exact same place or I am back at square one but with an extra thing to balance out.

I do not consider myself OCD or CDO as it really should be. That is because I can control it if I really try. It still annoys the hell out of me when people say they are a bit ocd or, "that's just my ocd kicking in". It doesn't kick in. It is always there, it is not mild, there are no mild versions and the definitions of the words Compulsive and Obssessive will be testament to that.

I don't bother saying anything when I see it as displayed in your OP as it does sound innocent but at the same time, I fully understand why people would speak up.
 
JingleSmells said:
Firstly, it should be CDO.

Secondly, I have some pretty severe repetitive tendencies that I can find extremely hard to control. Be it keeping it even between which foot touches wet or dry pavement, stones, bumps, white or yellow lines, steps up pavements or onto or over drain covers etc. Genuinely there is a need in me to find balance. If Dan tickles me on one side, I desperately need him to tickle me on the other side. All of these need to be in the exact same place or I am back at square one but with an extra thing to balance out.

I do not consider myself OCD or CDO as it really should be. That is because I can control it if I really try. It still annoys the hell out of me when people say they are a bit ocd or, "that's just my ocd kicking in". It doesn't kick in. It is always there, it is not mild, there are no mild versions and the definitions of the words Compulsive and Obssessive will be testament to that.

I don't bother saying anything when I see it as displayed in your OP as it does sound innocent but at the same time, I fully understand why people would speak up.
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I totally understand where you are coming from and I am hoping to not commit any offence, the point I am trying to make is that one person says it yes that's fine, then op apologises but then there is comment after comment about basically the same thing that's what annoys me, the point has been made?
 
sam_ said:
I totally understand where you are coming from and I am hoping to not commit any offence, the point I am trying to make is that one person says it yes that's fine, then op apologises but then there is comment after comment about basically the same thing that's what annoys me, the point has been made?
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I get you. I know how annoying it can be, it happens on here all of the time. It is down to a desire to be heard/jump on the bandwagon.

If op apologised then I would write something like this.

"In light of the OP having the good grace to apologise for her error of judgement, it would be nice to think you could all accept that apology and be done. Your continued vitriolic posting is calculated and targeted for no other benefit than massaging your own egos. For that reason your own behaviour has become far worse than that of the OP which makes you all a bunch of total hypocrites! "
 
Why should it be CDO?

Mental disorders such as depression, anxiety and ocd are expressed on a continuus scale, they are not dichotomies. Depression can range from feeling mildly sad for prolonged periods to not being able to get out of bed, get dressed and eat regular meals.

If the person who made the bed feels uncomfortable if the bed is not just so, they may well have obsessive tendencies. Either way, I think the people slating the person that posted the picture are overreacting.
 
It occurs all the time, the same as people commonly say oh he is a bit special and spas and worst of all retard. It upsets me greatly as having had a special needs child who has sadly passed away they have no clue how rude and ignorant they are being, people wouldn't dare make racist comments anymore, but picking on mental illness and people with disabilities seem like fair game. Makes my blood boil.
 
Anglebracket said:
Why should it be CDO?

Mental disorders such as depression, anxiety and ocd are expressed on a continuus scale, they are not dichotomies. Depression can range from feeling mildly sad for prolonged periods to not being able to get out of bed, get dressed and eat regular meals.

If the person who made the bed feels uncomfortable if the bed is not just so, they may well have obsessive tendencies. Either way, I think the people slating the person that posted the picture are overreacting.
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It's a long running joke within the community, I know a lot of people who do actually suffer from it as I have been assessed myself and they joke that given the way the condition manifests itself, they should at least sort the words alphabetically.

My posts on this show that I do not take this light heartedly at all by the way.

I was assessed and due to my ability to keep a handle on it without outside help, I do not consider myself to suffer the condition. I have seen it completely ruling and ruining the lives of sufferers, but even they can have sense of humour about it.
 
Anglebracket said:
Why should it be CDO?

Mental disorders such as depression, anxiety and ocd are expressed on a continuus scale, they are not dichotomies. Depression can range from feeling mildly sad for prolonged periods to not being able to get out of bed, get dressed and eat regular meals.
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Exactly the point I was going to make before reading your post. Mental illness is just like physical illness in that there are different severities which may be more or less liveable-with, and which may require different levels of treatment. Consequently, the prevalence of mental illness is probably much higher than any treatment or hospital admission statistics would suggest. Imo, making it a dichotomy (i.e. either someone has it or they don't) is not only erroneous, it also stigmatizes mental illness unfairly.
 
fburton said:
Is it possible to have a condition without suffering it?
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Hence the reason I don't say I have it, despite being classed as having compulsive behaviours, I am able to recognise when they have started and I am able to stop myself. Dan will tell me if he notices me walking oddly and I can stop myself doing it, but I am never aware that I have started if that makes sense. In that sense I do suffer it as it can make for some very odd looks off strangers but it is those odd looks that alert me to the fact I am doing it. I have been known to step on a bump with the ball of my left foot and when no other suitable bump has been found, go back to the original bump and step on it again with the ball of my right foot. If I don't get the very same spot on my right foot that I got on my left foot, I still have to get the correct spot, but them also have to step on it again with my left foot to balance the incorrect attempt with the right foot.

There are of course different severities of the illness but as has been explained to me many many times by professionals, there is a reason it is called compulsive and obsessive. It is not simply a high drive or desire or a mild anxiety relief, it is compulsive and obsessive, by it's very nature it is severe and within that there are differing severities.

Just like you can have a headache, but a headache is not a mild form of a migrane. A migrane is a totally different thing that is a severe form in itself, but within that umbrella heading, there are many severities.

Hope that makes sense. It's of course my own personal take on it. I am not talking about mental illness as a whole, the OP was discussing the term OCD which I believe is stigmatised more by people misusing the term, it becomes an illness to poke fun at which is disgraceful. It is a recognised illness and like I said, I ma only repeating what has been said to me and sharing my thoughts as someone who has been medically classed as suffering it. I just don't say I do because I don't feel that I suffer as others do. I know enough people that cannot control it as I do so I would feel a fraud if I said I suffered it, despite technically having it.
 
What you write makes complete sense to me, JS. My point was a very general one about mental illness as a whole, not OCD specifically. However, I can see what you mean about OCD as being a particular target of fun in the way that other conditions aren't, and I think your headache vs migraine analogy is very good.
 
fburton said:
What you write makes complete sense to me, JS. My point was a very general one about mental illness as a whole, not OCD specifically. However, I can see what you mean about OCD as being a particular target of fun in the way that other conditions aren't, and I think your headache vs migraine analogy is very good.
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Yeah, it's a tricky subject to be honest. I don't like when people are jumped on for an innocent comment, but I think in today's society we have gone beyond the point of innocence now. Unless you have lived under a rock for the past 10 years, you know how prevalent and common mental illnesses are.

I have a little inner monologue going when I am in company. People will know when I am genuinely at ease in their presence because that is when I forget to stop myself. I can get quite distracted though when I do have to keep a lid on it. I never knew I did it until Dan pointed it out to me but I can make up for things I stepped on/over etc. weeks later. My conscious mind can't remember what it was, but I feel a relief when I do it and at some point that day, a light bulb will go off and I remember a kerb I stepped up a few weeks before that I hadn't made up for or a drain I stepped on with my right foot a month back. It's not an obsession, but it is a compulsion and I don't want to do it, I need to do it, there is no choice. If I am prevented from doing it at that time, it stresses me out. I am good at hiding it, but only because I know I can make up for it later. My brain can remember A LOT it seems :)
 
I agree about the sliding scale theory, but having being diagnosed with Aspergers myself, I know that when it comes to diagnosis, there is a difference to having some traits and being diagnosed. I am considered a mild case, however definitely diagnosable. I know my father has many of my traits which can associated with aspergers, but he isn't diagnosable as having aspergers due to how those traits present.

For example, when people are a bit socially awkward, but quite clever - this doesn't mean they have aspergers. There are many developmental and continual traits that someone with aspergers has further to this - for example, I struggle to tell when I'm talking too much, or can interrupt without realising, and I struggle to understand sarcasm or take things very literally. When I'm uncomfortable, I come across as very shy and awkward mainly because I'm scared I won't realise I've made a faux pas. Not the same as being a bit geeky.

So i can see why it would bother people with OCD. I've been guilty myself of saying that I'm OCD about food - I can't have different types of good touching each other on my plate, or any sauce crossin the lines, and the textures of some foods like potatoes make me physically gag. But that's not OCD, that's associated with my aspergers as having very strong organisational tendencies and issues with taste and texture.
 
JingleSmells said:
Yeah, it's a tricky subject to be honest. I don't like when people are jumped on for an innocent comment, but I think in today's society we have gone beyond the point of innocence now. Unless you have lived under a rock for the past 10 years, you know how prevalent and common mental illnesses are.
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I could be behind the times because of cultural isolation due to my not having a tv at home and only watching bits and pieces when visiting other people - maybe that counts as living under a rock. (I listen to Radio 4 a lot though!)

I have a little inner monologue going when I am in company. People will know when I am genuinely at ease in their presence because that is when I forget to stop myself. I can get quite distracted though when I do have to keep a lid on it. I never knew I did it until Dan pointed it out to me but I can make up for things I stepped on/over etc. weeks later. My conscious mind can't remember what it was, but I feel a relief when I do it and at some point that day, a light bulb will go off and I remember a kerb I stepped up a few weeks before that I hadn't made up for or a drain I stepped on with my right foot a month back. It's not an obsession, but it is a compulsion and I don't want to do it, I need to do it, there is no choice. If I am prevented from doing it at that time, it stresses me out. I am good at hiding it, but only because I know I can make up for it later. My brain can remember A LOT it seems :)
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That reminds me of a 'quirk' I used to have for quite a few years dating back to my teens where I would make a mental note of any time I walked through a door or under an arch or street sign (anything that formed a closed loop) and always tried to equalize the number of times I passed through each way - so if I went through one way I would try to 'cancel' the balance by going through the opposite direction at some future time. This was totally irrational of course, and I'm glad to say I grew out of it eventually (it was too much bother!), but it has a at least a smidgen of obsessiveness about it. I still pair up socks obsessively and would feel a mild anxiety if I didn't do that. I think I have an inkling about the feeling that can accompany compulsion too, in when I check that doors have been locked or electric heaters turned off. I may only check again once after the doing it, but I would get a distinctly unpleasant sensation if I don't do that extra check - enough to make it virtually impossible not to do so. Does this have any relation to OCD? It seems like it might, though I really don't know for sure!
 
fburton said:
I could be behind the times because of cultural isolation due to my not having a tv at home and only watching bits and pieces when visiting other people - maybe that counts as living under a rock. (I listen to Radio 4 a lot though!)


That reminds me of a 'quirk' I used to have for quite a few years dating back to my teens where I would make a mental note of any time I walked through a door or under an arch or street sign (anything that formed a closed loop) and always tried to equalize the number of times I passed through each way - so if I went through one way I would try to 'cancel' the balance by going through the opposite direction at some future time. This was totally irrational of course, and I'm glad to say I grew out of it eventually (it was too much bother!), but it has a at least a smidgen of obsessiveness about it. I still pair up socks obsessively and would feel a mild anxiety if I didn't do that. I think I have an inkling about the feeling that can accompany compulsion too, in when I check that doors have been locked or electric heaters turned off. I may only check again once after the doing it, but I would get a distinctly unpleasant sensation if I don't do that extra check - enough to make it virtually impossible not to do so. Does this have any relation to OCD? It seems like it might, though I really don't know for sure!
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Kind of yes. What you describe sounds more like Obsessive Compulsive Personality Disorder. This is basically a lot more common and covers people that like to make sure all the cans and jars in the cupboards are the right way round, doors and windows locked and double checked, surfaces cleaned twice, double and triple checking things out of a desire for things to be perfect or "just so". It's for people who are perfectionist, meticulous or otherwise fixated and feeling mild anxiety when unable to complete whatever it is they wish to complete.

Diagnosed OCD can be obsessive behaviours, compulsive behaviours, both just one or sometimes compulsive behaviours as a result of obsessive thoughts. I personally don't have obsessive thoughts, it is not at the front of my mind. I have the compulsion to make things balanced though. What you did with the doors I would say would be far more likely to develop into OCD than someone who has to rinse everything twice, keep the can and jars the right way round etc. It is irrational and you know it is irrational, but with OCD, when you are unable to complete whatever it is you do, it brings feelings of panic or doom.

I used to be like that. I used to be extremely unpleasant to be around if I could not balance something out. I have found a way to deal with it and it is largely under control now. I no longer have the feelings of dread that something awful would happen if I didn't balance it out. I can pull myself together now but don't need to very often because I am generally always on top of it.

I am very balanced person generally though and the only way I can rationalise that I have that part of me is that I never do anything with any of my emotions. I can't. I don't know why but I just seem to soak things up like a sponge and sail through all of the grief and heart ache. I just think this all started with me as a let out. An avenue for all the stress to come out because I am generally never outwardly affected by stress.

I think we all have little tendencies, but I do think people sometimes need to remember that there is a big difference between having the personality disorder and the actual clinical disorder, they are very different.
 
Interesting stuff! I definitely have a perfectionist streak. For example, I used to take a ridiculous amount of time to clean stables and lay a perfect new bed, only to see it being trashed in short order! ;)

JingleSmells said:
I think we all have little tendencies, but I do think people sometimes need to remember that there is a big difference between having the personality disorder and the actual clinical disorder, they are very different.
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Yes, and doesn't it boil down to whether it causes real problems and suffering in a person's life? So it's like the difference between having a snuffly nose and being laid low or even hospitalized with flu. Both are caused by viral infection, and both are in a sense 'normal', but there is a huge difference in severity and consequences.
 
fburton said:
Interesting stuff! I definitely have a perfectionist streak. For example, I used to take a ridiculous amount of time to clean stables and lay a perfect new bed, only to see it being trashed in short order! ;)


Yes, and doesn't it boil down to whether it causes real problems and suffering in a person's life? So it's like the difference between having a snuffly nose and being laid low or even hospitalized with flu. Both are caused by viral infection, and both are in a sense 'normal', but there is a huge difference in severity and consequences.
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Brilliantly put :)
 
JingleSmells said:
It's a long running joke within the community, I know a lot of people who do actually suffer from it as I have been assessed myself and they joke that given the way the condition manifests itself, they should at least sort the words alphabetically.
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Still giggling about this :)
 
Floxie said:
Still giggling about this :)
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I bought my friend a t-shirt with it on the front in big letters for his birthday a few years back. He isn't a sufferer but he knows about me and it came up once and I made the joke, I had to explain it to him, but ever since then he has remembered it and he LOVES the t-shirt, so for Christmas last year, we bought him a RUN CDM t-shirt as well :)
 
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