Just devastated :(

FestiveFuzz said:
Thanks Annagain. It's beggars belief that after all the heartache of Elvis this has now happened, but I'm figuring that everything happens for a reason and that there has to be a silver lining in there somewhere (I'm beginning to feel like I've swallowed the Little Book of Positivity!). It's funny though, despite all the heartache I wouldn't change buying her for a second...even if she has become a bit of a terrible toddler in the last few days!
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You're talking to someone who should have sold her horse to a happy hacking home 9 years ago when she was told he couldn't jump again.... but who still has a 20 year old riddled with melanomas who can't jump and can do dressage but doesn't like to. I know exactly where you're coming from. I've found myself saying very frequently over the last 9 years.. "oh but he's very lovely to hack and he's so cwtchy". And I mean it. It may not have been what we planned but I love him and our life together (although I'm very lucky to have another I share and compete on) You'll find your silver lining, I know you will.
 
PLEASE don't go down the remedial shoeing route. It's the surest way to knacker your horse. You will come under a lot of pressure from vets and by-standers on this but please do not give in to it. Rockley are miracle workers. Yes, you can do it at home but a spell with them first will give your horse the best chance. Good luck.
 
annagain said:
You're talking to someone who should have sold her horse to a happy hacking home 9 years ago when she was told he couldn't jump again.... but who still has a 20 year old riddled with melanomas who can't jump and can do dressage but doesn't like to. I know exactly where you're coming from. I've found myself saying very frequently over the last 9 years.. "oh but he's very lovely to hack and he's so cwtchy". And I mean it. It may not have been what we planned but I love him and our life together (although I'm very lucky to have another I share and compete on) You'll find your silver lining, I know you will.
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I'm glad to hear it's not just me....and hearing your boy described as "so cwtchy" just made me smile. With Pops it's even more complicated as when sound we know she can pass a 5 stage vetting (or in our case 2!) so with her age and breeding if I did pass her on to a happy hacking home I would forever be worrying she'd be buted up and sold as a dressage horse, combined with just how nice a person she is there's just no way I could part with her, whether she ends up being a lawnmower or happy hack.

I think I'll feel a lot better once we've managed to (hopefully!) rule out there being an underlying condition causing this, be it ESPA or something else. As then I can truly believe in some of the good news stories I've heard in the past few days. I still can't wrap my head around the fact I was out hacking her just last week and two days later I'm being told she's seriously broken, but I do truly believe she's in my life for a reason...even if that is just to make my bank account weep!
 
PoppyAnderson said:
PLEASE don't go down the remedial shoeing route. It's the surest way to knacker your horse. You will come under a lot of pressure from vets and by-standers on this but please do not give in to it. Rockley are miracle workers. Yes, you can do it at home but a spell with them first will give your horse the best chance. Good luck.
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Thanks PoppyAnderson. My preference is BF and Rockley, but need to wait until Thursday before I can properly get the ball rolling.
 
I know people will probably shoot me down for this BUT she is a mare! She has a use. You could potentially put her in foal (OK it would be a late one if covered now)... (actually no it would be a June foal, I am so used to tbs being early doors!!) a year off doing nothing but mooching about may just fix her enough/well to give her a second crack at a competitive career. If not you then have a youngster you could bring on to be your next super star.

I havent read all of the replies so i don't know if this has already been suggested/is feasible but it is what I would do.
 
EKW said:
I know people will probably shoot me down for this BUT she is a mare! She has a use. You could potentially put her in foal (OK it would be a late one if covered now)... (actually no it would be a June foal, I am so used to tbs being early doors!!) a year off doing nothing but mooching about may just fix her enough/well to give her a second crack at a competitive career. If not you then have a youngster you could bring on to be your next super star.

I havent read all of the replies so i don't know if this has already been suggested/is feasible but it is what I would do.
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This would be the obvious option with her breeding but unfortunately at this moment we're not sure if there's an underlying hereditary condition that has caused the mineralization in her tendons so until that's ruled out it's not an option.
 
Auslander said:
I am honestly very sorry, and have every sympathy. But, I'm afraid this made me howl...
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Hahaha oh god bloody autocorrect 😳 I can promise my horse does not have a gay bar in the corner of her stable that I hide carrots in! OH is now wondering why I'm giggling and practically crying with laughter...I look like a crazy lady!
 
annagain said:
Oh FF I've only just spotted this thread. I followed your shopping journey from Dexter to Elvis and then to Poppy. I was so pleased for you when you found her. I'm so sorry you're facing this. Got everything crossed that she's fixable for you. Hugs.
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This completely xxx
 
SatansLittleHelper said:
I can't wait for tomorrow either...I'm so desperate for some positive news for you both xx
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Thanks so much. Although I'm dreading initiating the BF/Rockley chat in case vet/YO are totally against both. I know she's mine and at the end of the day it's down to me but YO has been so great I don't want to do anything to upset the balance xx
 
I'm afraid it's almost guaranteed the vet and or the YO will dismiss Rockley out of hand. I wouldn't let that put me off tho. I would get all the information from the vet, speak to Rockley once you have it, then make your decision.

I've yet to speak to a vet who has even heard of Rockley or has any real understanding of keeping a horse sound BF.
 
FfionWinnie said:
I'm afraid it's almost guaranteed the vet and or the YO will dismiss Rockley out of hand. I wouldn't let that put me off tho. I would get all the information from the vet, speak to Rockley once you have it, then make your decision.

I've yet to speak to a vet who has even heard of Rockley or has any real understanding of keeping a horse sound BF.
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YO has already said they'd be concerned about going BF as you need to remove all movement through the bulb of the heel and prevent too much force being put on the tendon until it's healed. It's so hard to know what to do as I really value my YO's opinion as she's incredibly knowledgeable and has been an amazing support for Pops and I.
 
I'd question how they are healing them then :p without removing all movement through the bulb of the heel. Must be magic :p
 
ester said:
I'd question how they are healing them then :p without removing all movement through the bulb of the heel. Must be magic :p
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See this is the trouble, despite owning horses most of my life I'm totally clueless when it comes to this sort of stuff as I've never had to deal with it before. I'm reading up on as much as I can but no amount of research will replace experience.
 
Oh gosh just read this, I followed your search with great interest (just the sort of horse I would want if I bought again!!).
So so sorry for what has happened. Fingers crossed that the news is good on Thursday.
 
Nothing has to be done in a rush yes? and nothing says you can't go down one route and then change your mind/try something else at a later date. Don't start worrying about it now, wait until you have more information about exactly what the issue is and then the investigation of options can happen and you can also pick up info from other people's experience even if you don't have it yourself.
 
ester said:
Nothing has to be done in a rush yes? and nothing says you can't go down one route and then change your mind/try something else at a later date. Don't start worrying about it now, wait until you have more information about exactly what the issue is and then the investigation of options can happen and you can also pick up info from other people's experience even if you don't have it yourself.
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Agreed. As I see it, Rockley only take horses they think they can fix. If they don't think they can fix her, I am confident you'll be told that when you speak to Nic. Once you've got all the info from the vet and the yo and everyone else who is going to stick an oar in to the situation, you can phone her, and pose those exact questions to her. Then you can research her answers and see if she's right.

Obviously, I think she is very likely to be, I've no axe to grind here, I don't know you and I don't know her but I've got 6 rock crunching BF horses performing at the top of their games and I know it is ONE avenue that might be the right one for you. If you decide it isn't, that's fine it's your choice, I just don't like people being put off for the wrong reasons.
 
I'm not familiar with this, and I'm so sorry. Although this might not be the case for your mare, I'm hoping this might restore some hope.

I bought my first pony 6years ago, a sad, underweight abused rescue, had little trust or anything really. But down to his bones he was kind, sweet and caring. 3 weeks of owning him, he was pawing at the gate as some girls on my yard supposedly leaving (yes, I doubt there stories. I think they tormented him, but that's another story) and he got his leg trapped and pulled it out of the gate with force. He fractured his tendon completely and PTS was advised, and if it did heal, he was never going to be ridden again. He was rushed to my local veterinary and the worse possible news was given to me - infection has already set in, despite the fact is watched the vet administer all kinds of injections and flush out the wound a million times. His chances were slim. He underwent some kind of op and a cast went on. He had 6 months of box rest when he finally came out of the vets after 3/4 weeks. But because he was a star they could keep the cast on for extra which was fab news. Long story short, it healed astonishingly well and he soon went from a horse that was going to be PTS to one that could only be lightly ridden. Confirmation X-rays were taken and I was revealed that he would never have issues with the injury and it would be stronger than before. He jumps 1m at a push, but clears 90cm (for a 13.1hh carrying 5"2 me, and he's very leggy and no barrel!!).

Point is - nothing is set in stone. I'm not saying some kind of miracle will happen doe sure now, but I'm a firm believer everything happens for a reason. :)
 
FF, fingers crossed that you get some answers to questions tomorrow.

And I know I'm bad, but this thread has had me howling with laughter twice. Your suspicion as to why your OH suggested a little Poppy and the picture of you hiding carrots in her gay bar :) :)
 
ester said:
Nothing has to be done in a rush yes? and nothing says you can't go down one route and then change your mind/try something else at a later date. Don't start worrying about it now, wait until you have more information about exactly what the issue is and then the investigation of options can happen and you can also pick up info from other people's experience even if you don't have it yourself.
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I know you're right, it's just everyone is so quick to have an opinion and I'm terrified I'll try the wrong thing and make it worse.
 
FfionWinnie said:
Agreed. As I see it, Rockley only take horses they think they can fix. If they don't think they can fix her, I am confident you'll be told that when you speak to Nic. Once you've got all the info from the vet and the yo and everyone else who is going to stick an oar in to the situation, you can phone her, and pose those exact questions to her. Then you can research her answers and see if she's right.

Obviously, I think she is very likely to be, I've no axe to grind here, I don't know you and I don't know her but I've got 6 rock crunching BF horses performing at the top of their games and I know it is ONE avenue that might be the right one for you. If you decide it isn't, that's fine it's your choice, I just don't like people being put off for the wrong reasons.
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Again I totally agree. I guess I just want a plan in place as it makes me feel like I'm actively doing something to fix her rather than just sitting passively. It's silly really as for the most part she'll just need time. I'm just looking forward to having a clearer picture tomorrow (even though the thought of it makes me feel sick!).
 
Haz:) said:
I'm not familiar with this, and I'm so sorry. Although this might not be the case for your mare, I'm hoping this might restore some hope.

I bought my first pony 6years ago, a sad, underweight abused rescue, had little trust or anything really. But down to his bones he was kind, sweet and caring. 3 weeks of owning him, he was pawing at the gate as some girls on my yard supposedly leaving (yes, I doubt there stories. I think they tormented him, but that's another story) and he got his leg trapped and pulled it out of the gate with force. He fractured his tendon completely and PTS was advised, and if it did heal, he was never going to be ridden again. He was rushed to my local veterinary and the worse possible news was given to me - infection has already set in, despite the fact is watched the vet administer all kinds of injections and flush out the wound a million times. His chances were slim. He underwent some kind of op and a cast went on. He had 6 months of box rest when he finally came out of the vets after 3/4 weeks. But because he was a star they could keep the cast on for extra which was fab news. Long story short, it healed astonishingly well and he soon went from a horse that was going to be PTS to one that could only be lightly ridden. Confirmation X-rays were taken and I was revealed that he would never have issues with the injury and it would be stronger than before. He jumps 1m at a push, but clears 90cm (for a 13.1hh carrying 5"2 me, and he's very leggy and no barrel!!).

Point is - nothing is set in stone. I'm not saying some kind of miracle will happen doe sure now, but I'm a firm believer everything happens for a reason. :)
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Thanks Haz. Stories like this are what are helping keep my hopes up right now.
 
View said:
FF, fingers crossed that you get some answers to questions tomorrow.

And I know I'm bad, but this thread has had me howling with laughter twice. Your suspicion as to why your OH suggested a little Poppy and the picture of you hiding carrots in her gay bar :) :)
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Haha I'm glad this thread isn't all doom and gloom :)
 
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