Just going to have a rant

I remember my trainer telling me this about the name, saying the dog doesn’t know what you want if you don’t tell it! However, my lot all respond to their name by recalling (bar deaf dog, obviously!)
 
My current dog is not comfortable with unfamiliar dogs.

To be fair to Sully, he can walk nicely off lead with polite dogs after a gentle introduction but TBH he is more interested in me and his ball.

One of the problems I see is that some people do not interact with their dog. They are on their phone, listening to music or in a huddle with other dog walkers and totally oblivious to what their dog is doing. Or the best yet, the woman who let the dog out of the car and stood texting and drinking coffee while the dog entertained itself. It doesn't matter if their dog is harassing another because they will never notice.

I don't mind passing the time of day and do stop for a quick chat but I am out primarily for my dog's benefit and put his needs first. (Apologies OP, this is not aimed at you, I know you are very attentive to your dog)

Some owners expect their dog to understand a command without it ever having being taught, recall being just one. One of my neighbours adopted a neglected Springer, a lovely, sweet dog. She enjoys a game of fetch, brings the ball back and looks up expectantly at the owner who issues a series of commands "drop it, drop it, leave it, drop it, drop it, leave it" Poor dog just looks at her "What? What do you want me to do?" until the frustrated owner prizes it from her mouth. She has never been taught to drop it or leave it but is expected to magically know. I keep my mouth shut.

"Sit down" is a good one I often hear.

Bit of a rant but I feel better already.

I think I should go on a course "how to make friends and influence people"
 
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What also really used to annoy me is when a large Labrador was trying to mount my arthiritic elderly lab and to be repeatedly asked if she was in season!! Er no... She was spayed after her first season, you can't control your bloody dog! And the same owner would ask me the same thing the following week. And she was on the lead at the time.
 
Just a general observation but I find labs are pretty rubbish at reading other dogs' body language.

'Nope. Not interested. Go away'

'FWEND! PLAAAAY!!'

I find lab puppies are but round my way the older labs seem to be quite well behaved (and not just mine!).
We have loads of encounters with badly behaved labradoodles and cookapoo types, a lot owned by owners with no idea but fortunately most aren't aggressive.
 
Well just met husky again, I went out early to avoid! Mine on a lead, owner put husky on lead then proceeded to feed treats to two other dogs! They have no idea. Also apparently dog went for another one in the walking club yesterday, a little very shy cavalier. It seems to like being aggressive to the weaker dogs, wont go near another more assertive one at all. It will be interesting to see what happens next week.

Aru, perhaps you should start a gin drinking dog group!
 
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We have loads of encounters with badly behaved labradoodles and cookapoo types, a lot owned by owners with no idea but fortunately most aren't aggressive.

Most of the husky types round here are fairly well trained and managed - so far as I've seen. It's the cute little designer cross breed part-poodley-spaniely things that people buy as pets and don't seem to train at all. I don't really mind what they do with my collie as he's very good about life, but my rescue hound is terrified and aggressive (and muzzled and very rarely in public places!) is utterly traumatised by their bounding up to him.
 
Well just met husky again, I went out early to avoid! Mine on a lead, owner put husky on lead then proceeded to feed treats to two other dogs! They have no idea. Also apparently dog went for another one in the walking club yesterday, a little very shy cavalier. It seems to like being aggressive to the weaker dogs, wont go near another more assertive one at all. It will be interesting to see what happens next week.

Owner needs a tap on the head with a sledgehammer.
 
Had a right stupid mare this morning...Dog off lead comes running over to my on lead dog... my poor ****** had to put up with an IN SEASON bitch tarting all over him, natrually he was very interested...when the stupid, stupid cow finally came over she knew I was less than impressed...She then berated ME for having an entire male???? ermmmmmm mine is under control, plus luvvie you are on PRIVATE land with no authorisation ....I actually told her to f*c* orf in the end.
 
I agree with the others who say that it is the husky who needs to be on the lead, sounds as if its a bit of a bully, happy to pick on the older, weaker or smaller dogs. I would suggest maybe as a group, if all are willing, that you speak to the husky owner and state that you are happy for her to walk with you if it is kept on a lead or even that you would prefer she didnt walk with you all again. It sounds as if the group you have is not suitable for her to use to teach hers how to behave, she needs a dedicated husky group or a professional dog trainer to help. She isnt helping it at all by allowing it to dominate others. Maybe if all else fails you and the cavvies owner could walk together :)
 
Owner needs a tap on the head with a sledgehammer.

Now come on, stop beating around the bush and say what you really mean.

OP it sounds like her dog is not going to learn or be told. You and the other group members need to be firm with her before her dog does something worse.

My dog has a naff recall but in safe areas and parks is off lead and we've always been fine and been able to recall to put him on the lead if others are etc. Recall is only bad if there's something to chase
Walking near home he's always on lead as him and a local dog do not like each other, plus the owner of the other dog is a prick lol.
 
EVERY time this happens the husky will learn that his behaviour is acceptable/he self rewards. It's terrible training. Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result.

The owner of one of the dogs that targets mine started throwing food at him one day also 'to create a positive association'. Not, like, you know, stop your dog running amok and bullying others, that would also create a positive association.

I've actually stopped walking in the mornings as I was arriving in to work stressed and hoarse.
 
What I don't get it I would be so appalled if my dog went for another one. I would be absolutely mortified. (I don't mean if my dog was being harassed, I mean in the case of this husky).

I only see other dogs out shooting so generally they are impecably socialised but there is always a sex pest labrador dog on every shoot, who spends the whole day with his head under your bitches tail. His owner usually behaves just the same with any female human present. My dogs never come into the communal barn for elevenses or lunch, I assume they prefer to keep their virtue intact in the pick up.
 
Had a right stupid mare this morning...Dog off lead comes running over to my on lead dog... my poor ****** had to put up with an IN SEASON bitch tarting all over him, natrually he was very interested...when the stupid, stupid cow finally came over she knew I was less than impressed...She then berated ME for having an entire male???? ermmmmmm mine is under control, plus luvvie you are on PRIVATE land with no authorisation ....I actually told her to f*c* orf in the end.


Good for you! Your fault for having an entire dog?! Why was her in season bitch off lead? That’s ridiculously irresponsible.

Apparently I shouldn’t walk my under control dog in public places (maybe I should try the moon??). I was training, a yappy little thing pelted over, my fear aggressive dog was aiming for a retrieve and came face to face with it. I gave him a leave it command, he froze. I told the other owner my dog didn’t like other dogs and apparently I was in the wrong! My dog was under control! So frustrating.

Another time, my three were on lead crossing a very narrow footbridge and a bloke let his collie off to run straight at us rather than wait for me to clear the bridge. He then told me off for one dog having a go because his dog is scared of other dogs! Again, I shouldn’t be in public :rolleyes3: I fear some owners are idiots. The bridge is less than 20ft long, he should have waited.
 
An idiot dog walker, the other day, was walking his 'cockerpoo' type dishmop thing across my neighbour's field. there are signs up asking people to keep to the footpath with their dogs on leads but they don't mean him, his dog was loose. He had one of those ball thrower toys and tbd, the dog was ignoring the hens, just running among them chasing the ball that he threw periodically. I was driving home, on the road alongside the field. I got to the gate to the footpath at exactly the same time that dog and walker did. Walker chucked the ball over the gate for the dog to follow, as it had been doing all the way across the field and if I hadn't stopped because I could see exactly what was going to happen, the dishmop would have been under my wheels!
I remonstrated with the dog walker who just said "I didn't see you"(!). The wall is not high, I could see him and his dish mop, why on earth didn't he LOOK?.
Incidentally there is a local bye-law which says that dogs should be on a lead on all council property, including roads but at least half the local dog owners ignore that. We have no pavements!
 
Husky joined us today.My dog immediately began trembling when she saw him. Owner kept him on a lead, where he proceeded to pull her all over the place because he wanted to play with his mates. Apparently he has also had a go at a standard poodle ! I just kept my two on their leads until she got fed up and went off. The other dog walkers have apparently broached the subject of a muzzle, but that doesn't help when theres several kilos of Husky flattening your dog. I wont be walking with them for the next two days so she will be able to let him run and hopefully he wont attack any of the others.
 
Muzzles are a waste of time, IMO, like you say it stops the bite but doesn't stop the bruising. I thought huskies were ALWAYS a liability off lead? I do feel so sorry for your old girl, she doesn't deserve this.
 
It looks like you have no choice but to leave the walking group for the moment. Do let it be known why though. Your dogs absolutely have to be your priority (which I know they are) xx
 
It’s a shame the husky’s owner doesn’t use the time to instil some training into her dog. I’m guessing she’s just chatting while her dog is pulling her around?

My neighbour has a puppy. They are teaching him keep his attention on them when required and sit nicely when he comes across a person or dogs on leads. As they rightly say, he’s going to be a fairly big dog so needs to have rules early on before he knows his strength.
 
Muzzles are a waste of time, IMO, like you say it stops the bite but doesn't stop the bruising. I thought huskies were ALWAYS a liability off lead? I do feel so sorry for your old girl, she doesn't deserve this.

The husky rescues and responsible breeders always seem to instil in the new owners that huskies are not reliable off lead, ever. They can be fine for months and then one day just start running and don't stop until they get hit by a car, bus, train or enter a field of sheep and go on a killing spree. This breed more than any other seem to be at the forefront of all the sheep worrying stories I have heard of late. Of course ANY breed or individual is capable of chasing and worrying livestock but it seems the rise in the popularity of huskies especially in completely unsuitable homes (after programmes like GOT) correlates directly to the rise in sheep attacks by this breed. Once upon a time not too long ago they were considered a specialist breed, only to be owned by those who understood their needs and were prepared to change their lives to accommodate the breed, or whose lives already revolved around keeping them occupied.
 
My dog is social, large and can take care of himself but I have met a so called professional dog walker and behaviourist twice in different locations now, and each time her large pack of dogs come barrelling over, barking and generally annoying me and my dog. I had my son with me the last time and he is very wary of strange dogs and felt quite intimidated. My dog was on lead as soon as I spotted her in the distance. I am afraid I lost it and gave her a real piece of my mind and told her that if it happens for a third time then I will be reporting her to the dog warden. She just ranted back at me that I didn't know who she was (I do!) and that her dogs weren't causing any harm (wrong!).

People can be so bloody selfish.
 
Professional dog walkers are a PITA. Who made them God?
Why would anyone pay someone to either drag their dog on a lead with 10 others, or let them run wild up the airfield trying to catch them when a hare gets up? I suppose it is like horse livery yards, few people will pay enough to have it done properly.
 
My dog is social, large and can take care of himself but I have met a so called professional dog walker and behaviourist twice in different locations now, and each time her large pack of dogs come barrelling over, barking and generally annoying me and my dog. I had my son with me the last time and he is very wary of strange dogs and felt quite intimidated. My dog was on lead as soon as I spotted her in the distance. I am afraid I lost it and gave her a real piece of my mind and told her that if it happens for a third time then I will be reporting her to the dog warden. She just ranted back at me that I didn't know who she was (I do!) and that her dogs weren't causing any harm (wrong!).

People can be so bloody selfish.

Surely you have all the power here - a few photos of her out of control charges pestering your on-lead dog, and a nice video of her ranting at you on social media would not do her business any favours...
 
Professional dog walkers are a PITA. Who made them God?
Why would anyone pay someone to either drag their dog on a lead with 10 others, or let them run wild up the airfield trying to catch them when a hare gets up? I suppose it is like horse livery yards, few people will pay enough to have it done properly.

Pro dog walkers certainly have their benefits ie. allowing people who work full time the opportunity to have a dog whereas they may not have thought it fair before, and dogs who may have been left long hours now get a chance for a break in their day BUT ... there are definitely too many walkers who seem to have very little experience or knowledge of dog behaviour, who take far too many at one time and have little control over their charges. I avoid areas known for pro dog walkers like the plague.
 
Surely you have all the power here - a few photos of her out of control charges pestering your on-lead dog, and a nice video of her ranting at you on social media would not do her business any favours...

Absolutely, and I will have my phone handy next time. The previous times I was too busy either trying to ward off her dogs from seriously pestering my dog and latterly scaring my son to death. The Council where I live have an "approved professional dog walker scheme" so if I encounter her again I will also contact them to see if she is a member.
 
My sister has a gem of a dog walker but I suspect she could be in the minority. Sister has some good dog walks close by and the walker takes her out on foot as an only dog and not with a van full.

I have observed some to be very careless with other people's dogs.

I took the big lad on a trip to the beach the other day. After our walk I had to rush to get him back into the dog bus because a dog walker was just opening the doors to her van and letting the dogs out in the car park, all off leash. She could not possibly see what was waiting on the beach because of dunes one way and sea wall the other. I also think it would be very intimidating to other dogs coming off the beach to be suddenly overwhelmed by a large number of excited off leash dogs. They were on the beach way ahead of her.

One company has managed to get 2 dogs in their care killed. One by other dogs and one was lost and found dead on the road days later.

Obviously not all dog walkers are created equal.

Just thought of another I saw who thought it was clever to walk someone else's dog along a busy road off leash. I wouldn't do that with one of my own dogs let alone someone else's dog.
 
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