Justice for Horse Rider

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A school bus driver who overtook a horse and rider on a blind bend, then passed them at speed while sounding his horn, is no longer in his job.
Felicity Armstrong reported both incidents, on two legs of the bus’s journey, on 20 January, to the British Horse Society, Northumberland County Council (NCC) and the police. Three days
Felicity told H&H she hopes the outcome will make people realise reporting incidents is worth it.
“I didn’t have camera footage, I couldn’t even tell them if it was a man or a woman driving,” she said. “All I could tell them was the time, route, location and description of the vehicle. But that was enough information to identify the driver.”
Felicity had taken her 12-year-old appaloosa mare Holly for an “out and back” ride on Friday afternoon, having been waiting for the icy roads to become safe.
“I had all my high-vis on and lights; I do everything to make myself safe,” she said. “As I came to a bend on the road at the top of the hill, I waved at the bus driver to stay behind me; there was a bridleway I was going to get into to get out of his way but he just refused and overtook me on the bend, he couldn’t see round it. There could have been a cyclist or a horse coming – there’s a yard with a field near there and they walk horses on the road – and if my horse wasn’t marvellous in traffic, it could have been a different story.”
Felicity and Holly were then unlucky enough to meet the same driver again, as both had turned round and were heading back.
“I was on a straight road with a clear view,” she said. “This time, the issue wasn’t that he couldn’t see, it was his speed. I didn’t know it was him but could hear it was a large vehicle so I put my arm out and asked him to slow down. But he just kept going, and tooted his horn. I thought ‘Enough. I’m done, absolutely done with his behaviour. I might have let it go the first time but the fact he passed again, and tooted his horn, tipped me over the edge.”
It is understood this is not the first concern raised about this driver; Felicity said she had been “nearly been forced off the road” by him while she was driving her car.
“It took him threatening my horse to take action,” she said. “Other liveries at my yard have also said they’ve had similar, and he’s driving a bus full of children, for heaven’s sake. If my children had been travelling on that bus, I’d be furious.”
Felicity posted about the incident on the Pass Wide and Slow Facebook group to spread the word, as she is full of praise for the safety campaign, and also praised the British Horse Society for its road safety work, including with NCC.
“On the same ride, I met a gritter driver from the same council,” she said. “He saw me and stopped, waited and watched. I gave him a big thumbs up and said thank you and he did the same back and said no problem. I also emailed the council about him to say thank you so much as he was lovely.”
Felicity has also reported incidents to Northumbria Police, which she said has also responded in a very positive manner.
“This just goes to show, it is worth reporting things,” she said. “I’ve been blown away by this response; I didn’t expect him to get sacked but maybe it’s a culmination of things.”
An NCC spokesman told H&H: “The safety of all road users is of paramount importance, and our huge network of rural roads means there are more horses, cyclists, walkers and farm vehicles on them than in more urban areas.
“While school bus drivers are not employed directly by the county council they are nevertheless subject to a strict code of conduct and where their behaviour falls below acceptable standards we will not hesitate in taking appropriate action to address.
“All county council drivers are trained to recognise risks and respect other road users and we are pleased to hear this positive feedback.” (As reported from Horse and Hound On-Line 26.01.2023)
 

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Great outcome. I'm sorry he lost his job but she might have lost her life.
Not quite the same but I had lorry driving so one behind me when I was towing my horse I actually thought he was getting in the trailer as well. I could see any reg as he was that close. As he turned off I managed to see the logo on his quarry trailer. A bit of Internet stalking I found the company. I complained, gave them the date and time. 2 lorries were on that route that time and because I couldn't say which it was they couldn't sack the driver, whi h they said they would have done as they won't tolerate that sort of thing. Instead both drivers got a stern talking to.
 

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I am not remotely sorry he lost his job. He put the horse and those kids at risk, not to mentioj setting them a terrible example. I am sorry for anyone in dire financial straits but I also am a big believer in personal accountability and he has lost any right to working as a driver. I wish he had lost his licence too. He may just be able to walk into another driving job.
 

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Great outcome I'm just glad they managed to find the driver and no one got hurt but it could have been very different under the circumstances.

I must admit our council drivers are very good and will stop and turn the engine off, even the private bin collectors round here will do the same.

Yes our refuge collectors ( dont want to call them dustmen) are very good and turn the engine off and we usually have a little chat to them and my mare really relaxes as soon as we start talking even though the lorry does smell pretty awful.
 

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Some years ago, I was riding my horse through a long-established farm public access metalled road which joined two local hamlets together. Horse and I were covered in hi-viz: quarter sheet, flashing light hi-viz hat cover, hi-viz tail band, browband, gloves, leg wraps, hi-viz jacket . I think we could have been seen from outer space!
I heard a lorry approaching from behind us, bumping over the speed reduction devices.
I pulled over onto the grass verge, making "Please drive wide and slow" arm signals and smiling at the driver. Horse, who is very good in traffic and responsive to leg aids and neck reining to signal move into wherever, in a straight line and do it now, responded immediately and stood still.
Lorry driver revved his engine and shot past, blaring his horn! I clocked him driving into a small industrial building so set off at a smart trot and rode into the yard and into the open workshop. This is NOT recommended, but the red mist had descended.
The workers froze. I demanded to speak to the manager, who duly appeared. I politely explained what had happened, how this could have precipitated a serious accident and asked him what he could do to prevent such dangerous behaviour in his work force in future.
He apologised profusely, asked what he should do, and agreed that he would instruct all his drivers to slow down/stop if they came across horse riders in future.
I thanked him and horse and I continued our hack.
Afterwards, all that company's vehicles were models of responsible truck driving.
I realise that this might have backfired badly, but I was so angry that I was determined to make a clear message about the danger of such stupid, careless behaviour.
 

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I read this one FB and my first impression was well done to the company but maybe a bit harsh. And then I thought no, actually not harsh. He could’ve injured or killed the people involved. Hope he’s learnt a lesson. We really need to get these dangerous drivers off the road.

of all the inconsiderate drivers I met over the summer, the bus drivers were not one of them. They were awesome every time I met them.
 

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School bus drivers round here are also terrible. I followed one the other day and he made no effort to slow down for a group of kangaroos. Sure enough, one of them bounced into the middle of the road and the bus hit it, then made no effort to stop. I blared my horn at him and he eventually stopped 200m down the road. We had words +++++ as I was checking the kangaroo and then went home to come back and put it down.
I rang to complain and its done nothing as they still don't slow down for dogs or horses. World wide problem I guess :(
 
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