Kali is out of sorts :(

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Had exactly the same situation with my big lad when he was 19, vet's first thought was cushings, and sure enough test came back at 60. One prescend a day and he is back to normal.
 

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Could you get him tested for cushings? Mine only showed a few signs - lack of enthusiasm (which I put down to old age) lost weight and muscle no matter how much I fed and last winter (when he was undiagnosed) he was clipped in October and didn't grow his coat back until July the following year. This year on his meds he was clipped a couple of months ago and its now growing back, so not growing the coat back could definitely be a sign.

He's 16 . . . isn't it a bit early for cushings?

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Sounds like it's time for the vet.
I'd run bloods to include an ACTH and tapeworm count.
If nothing alarming on those I'd scope or gastroguard.
 

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Nope not to early, mine was diagnose at 18 but I'm guessing it started the year before. Would def be worth getting a blood test to check as they don't cost much
 

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Sounds like it's time for the vet.
I'd run bloods to include an ACTH and tapeworm count.
If nothing alarming on those I'd scope or gastroguard.

Second this, particularly testing for cushings

Are you feeding the turmeric with oil and pepper? I tried my GSD, who has a very sensitive tum, on turmeric on it's own and a 1/4 teaspoon gave him the runs but with the oil and pepper I give him a teaspooon twice a day- he is like a puppy again on the stuff. It's been a miracle for him.
 

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OK - so I rang my vet . . . he doesn't feel we should be rushing to do bloods just yet . . . and feels he may be a bit wormy given the paddock he's been in. So, I have moved him back into his original paddock, wormed him, added Speedibeet to his feed and he'll be getting lunch. I've also dropped the turmeric (and, yes, was feeding it with oil and pepper). Lastly, I'm erring on the side of rugging more rather than less . . . I'm not a huge fan of over rugging, but I may not have been keeping him warm enough.

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When ours went like this they have liver issues. Never was confirmed but think they picked up liver fluke when the stream in the field over flowed in the heavy rain. Might be worth checking?
 

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OK - so I rang my vet . . . he doesn't feel we should be rushing to do bloods just yet . . . and feels he may be a bit wormy given the paddock he's been in. So, I have moved him back into his original paddock, wormed him, added Speedibeet to his feed and he'll be getting lunch. I've also dropped the turmeric (and, yes, was feeding it with oil and pepper). Lastly, I'm erring on the side of rugging more rather than less . . . I'm not a huge fan of over rugging, but I may not have been keeping him warm enough.

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How is Kali doing PS? x
 

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How is Kali doing PS? x

He's certainly brighter in himself . . . although he wasn't acting poorly, he was a bit "meh" . . . that's now gone and he's less grumpy.

We'll be moving yards in the next week or so (he's going to live at my trainer's yard, which is rather exciting) so I'm expecting that he'll drop a little weight then, but he's far from looking like a rescue case just now, so I'm not overly worried.

He jumped today . . . that put a smile on his face . . . just a little one, 2 foot 3, but it was fab to see him flying again.

Thanks for asking :).

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He's certainly brighter in himself . . . although he wasn't acting poorly, he was a bit "meh" . . . that's now gone and he's less grumpy.

We'll be moving yards in the next week or so (he's going to live at my trainer's yard, which is rather exciting) so I'm expecting that he'll drop a little weight then, but he's far from looking like a rescue case just now, so I'm not overly worried.

He jumped today . . . that put a smile on his face . . . just a little one, 2 foot 3, but it was fab to see him flying again.

Thanks for asking :).

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That sounds good news all round. So glad you have a new yard sorted, and with someone he knows and who knows him will make the move so much easier for everyone. :) x
 

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Tumeric is contraindicated for ulcers so although he might not have full blown ulcers he might have a sore tummy/the start of ulcers.

i would cut out the tumeric and start him on protexin acid ease.
 

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He's moving Sunday . . . so excited I can hardly wait . . . he has a new field mate (a two-year-old Czech Warmblood called Custard) and I know he will be very well looked after. Although we have loved our time at our present yard, it's time to move on . . . and I do believe that a change will do us both good. New YO has known him for nearly three years so will know what is normal for him and what is "off" and will keep a close eye on him. Kali and YO's old horse were very close - and he was one of the few horses her old boy really liked and trusted, so he has a special place on her heart as well as mine.

I lunged him today and then the heavens opened with wind, hail and snow so we gave up . . . I left him tucked up warm and bandaged in his stable, munching on his warm dinner (I soak his Speedibeet in warm water in the winter). I won't lie, I'll miss the huge stable (14x14) and the beautiful yard (it's stunning), and the enormous school (60 x 50), but it is time to move on . . . and I feel sure he'll be happy in his new home. He will be stabled next to Custard too - so they can develop a real bromance.

A new chapter for Pops.

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Tumeric is contraindicated for ulcers so although he might not have full blown ulcers he might have a sore tummy/the start of ulcers.

i would cut out the tumeric and start him on protexin acid ease.

Turmeric ditched as of the weekend . . . will look at Protexin - thank you.

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Glad to read he's feeling brighter OP :)

Me too. Lunged him today and he was happy and responsive - no running through the aids, was attentive to all my voice commands and anticipating as usual . . . the major clue to how he is feeling when lunging is whether he's happy to transition down - if he's tense or stressed or something is hurting he will run through the pain . . . today he went completely off my voice, which was lovely to see.

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That sounds good news all round. So glad you have a new yard sorted, and with someone he knows and who knows him will make the move so much easier for everyone. :) x

Went to see her today to iron out terms, see his stable, etc. . . . I feel so much better. She knows him so well . . . and she's a dear friend . . . I feel good knowing that.

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