Kate Mccann is now an official suspect.

Thank god there is some people with compassion on this thread, it really makes me sick how some people can make a joke of it, of course the mc canns are to blame but they are loving parents, and honestly believed their children were safe that is the bottom line... i have a 3yo and no i wouldnt leave him alone. I have never been so drawn in to such a sad situation, please all of you get your facts right, one mistake has ruined so many lives but that doesnt make them bad people, they have spent their lives saving lives, show them your sympathy and kindness, what more pain can they possibly suffer, god bless kate, gerry and dear sweet madeleine x
 
I think the reason there is so much speculation, and so many bizarre theories are circulating is simple. The Portuguese Police have released very little detail so the British press have resorted, in many cases, to conjecture, to gossip, and to simply making it up as they go along.

There is a deep second question here, as to whether the Police (in pretty much any country including our own) should be allowed to go through the evidence methodically without having to constantly answer to the press, or whether investigations should be allowed to be compromised by constant detailed press reporting. Sometimes it is very much against the interests of an investigation to release all the details. In this respect I think the publicity generated by the McCann family was flawed.
 
um -- cor after reading all the post
as i have been out and about with one thing and another
and not cuaght up with news -- till yesterday
flicked through posting on here,
i didnt know they were doctors--

you know in most cases when someones done something half the time its some one we know or someone one asscoaited to some one we know--
like accidents-- i mean a bloke i know got run over and killed
in fact within a three week stint ther was 5 road accidents of people i knew or knew off--

and i think in the same sernerio- but the other way round
its often been proven its people you knew or knew off

so iam keeping an open mind- but what i just dont get

and you can correct me -
i am a parent and grand parent at no time do i or have i left my children unattented- i have like as in most left them in a secure place like as in mother in law when i was out and kids were small- and like wise my daughter does now to me leaves her son with me till she comes back thats a secure place loving place --to me

but 1-- they on holiday fine these places on hiliday have creches
for kids to go to- not that i have ever used them

i have always taken my kids with me -wherever that might be
in the evenings to a show or meal we make sure that kids can enter in they cant then we dont go - simple

2-- hes and she is a doctor
then they should know welfare issues -- as in some cases welfare of a child or child at risk is often brought to a doctor surgery etc

so as they both doctors its there duty to protect in a sense and they should know better than anyone implications of leaving children alone at what ever time day or night
this is the part i dont get plus the fact they parents of the child in question-- but where was the other two ie the twins
were they in same room or what this is what i cant make sense of either as surely one or the other would have bee disturbed by co motion if the child was abeducted ---
so what did they do-

and if they have used drugs as surgested and went wrong
the is possiable-- as all would be fast asleep in a deep sleep

ther are questions aswell and some just dont add up
 
I actually dont agree that small children would be woken up easily when in a deep sleep, i could easily pick up and carry my children around or make alot of noise when they are fast asleep, they would remain asleep.
 
QR....A lot seems to have been made of the fact that these people are described as middle class professionals...like that would make them incapable of commiting a crime....Harold Shipman was a middle class professional....we still dont know quite how many old aged pensioners he murdered.

Being middle class doesnt give immunity against mental illness, perversion, criminality or anything else.
 
I have regularly seen children left in cars alone whilst the parents went off to do something. My own parents used to drive my brother and I to the pub, then leave us in the car for an hr whilst they had a quick drink. Surely that could be just as risky??
What about when you are in a shop and your child wanders off around the corner - I saw this the other day. A second later they could be snatched......
I am not saying the McCanns were right to leave such young children alone - IMO they absolutely were not.
But, as had been said before they have paid the ultimate price, and their pain must be incredible. Why people would wish them to have a dreadful life now is beyond me, they made a dreadful mistake but they don't deserve all this malice.
I'm pretty shocked to see just how vivid people's imaginations are when it comes to this case (in threads like this in particular). I shall await the verdict. But I would eat my hat frankly if the parents harmed her.
 
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I have regularly seen children left in cars alone whilst the parents went off to do something. My own parents used to drive my brother and I to the pub, then leave us in the car for an hr whilst they had a quick drink. Surely that could be just as risky??
What about when you are in a shop and your child wanders off around the corner - I saw this the other day. A second later they could be snatched......
I am not saying the McCanns were right to leave such young children alone - IMO they absolutely were not.
But, as had been said before they have paid the ultimate price, and their pain must be incredible. Why people would wish them to have a dreadful life now is beyond me, they made a dreadful mistake but they don't deserve all this malice.
I'm pretty shocked to see just how vivid people's imaginations are when it comes to this case (in threads like this in particular). I shall await the verdict. But I would eat my hat frankly if the parents harmed her.

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I agree everyone's imagination seems to be running riot here.
When and where were they supposed to have hidden a body for 25 days? It would have decomposed in a short time and considering that the police were looking I think someone would have found it.
Yes they made a terrible mistake and have paid the ultimate price and will have to live with this for the rest of their lives.
I will also await the verdict and will also be eating my hat if the parents were involved.
 
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McCanns gave Madelaine sleeping pills/tranqulizer to keep her asleep whilst they were out with friends (which the authorities have already suggested might have happened) but they gave her too much. Tragically she died, the McCanns found her and panicked and buried the body somewhere......

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I can't really believe this - the McCanns are well educated intelligent people.

If I had somehow accidently killed my duaghter, the last thing I would think of would be to hide or bury the body and tell people she had been kidnapped. Wouldn't you just immediately dial 999 and take the consequences?

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Ok so how many well educated and intelligent people drug their children? To say they would not OD a child because they are trained professionals is utter nonsense, they are acting in the most unethical manner by using drugs to control a child's sleep pattern!
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I sincerely believe that they did have something to do with the disappearance of Maddy, I have yet to feel any empathy whatsoever towards either of the McCanns which is usually a pretty strong unsurpressed emotion in cases like this.
And yes they were criminally negligent for leaving the children, but because they are middle class professionals we are expected to think that is acceptable
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what I find weird is that initially they were off praying in the Catholic church and then went to be supported by the Pope.

Yet this weekend they were seeking comfort from an Anglican vicar - this was after the questioning and declaration of their suspect status.

there are so many inconsistencies in the whole thing that even if it ever gets to court I doubt the whole truth will ever be known

Assuming the child is dead then I have always assumed that it would be another case like that of Millie Dowler - that when a body is found there will be little in the way of forensic evidence to use to identify cause of death and certainly nothing to test to prove if sedation was administered or not.

The victim here is the child - NOT the parents - and that is something that the recent press coverage seems to be overlooking.

If the child is dead - then it's a young life cut short
If the child is alive then imagine her disorientation with strangers in a strange place

The parents are not the victims - the child is.
 
Yet todays TV lunchtime news states that the blood did NOT match Madeliene's!!!

How can anything be believed???
 
they claim that the fund money is not being used for legal advice. No statement that I've seen in regard to fund money not being used for publicity purposes

the news states that it wasn't blood in the car but was 'bodily fluids' from Madeline.......which makes it look more like moving a body - or not -- who knows - even the scientists state that it's not foolproof and that siblings can have an 85% match of DNA.

so what is in the car could be from the twins unless the DNA is a 100% match and haven't seen that information
 
http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,91210-1283521,00.html

so much hair that it couldn't but have come from Madeline

first time hair has been mentioned and in the spare wheel well - so not exactly where you'd pack part of her old clothes or whatever

mmmmmm

be interesting to see what happens from the portugese prosecutor

if the parents are 'arrested' and sent to Portugal then the twins would presume be placed into care in the UK - poor kids in the fall-out from this - whatever happens - at least they are very young and maybe don't realise a lot of what is going on.
 
The Evening Standard is tonight reporting that significant quantities of hair with a 100% match to Madeleine's DNA has been found in the boot of the car but more significantly other DNA was found beneath the boot lining of the car which can only have come from a decomposing corpse. This DNA had a 90% match
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Yes I've got three. My youngest is nearly 25 and if she was missing I'd be trying to drag myself up off the floor. One of my nephews died when he was 15 months old. His parents had a younger child so had to carry on to some extent, but could no more have had "high tea" with other parents etc than grown a second head (and they knew where there child was)! I have also worked in the NHS for 20 years and have seen parents traumatised by missing (when taken by the other parent) or dead children and I've never 'seen' this type of behaviour!
 
people react in different ways though. see my earlier reply about my sister. Her son died at 11 weeks, and whilst the ambulance took him to hospital she stopped at ours and had a cuppa. She had an older child, and had to consider him. Two days after his death the village was horrified to see her in the local pub having an xmas drink... but that was her way of coping. In her job (my sis) she sees death daily, deals with trauma, and the only way she could deal with what had happened was to just get on with things.
 
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people react in different ways though. see my earlier reply about my sister. Her son died at 11 weeks, and whilst the ambulance took him to hospital she stopped at ours and had a cuppa. She had an older child, and had to consider him. Two days after his death the village was horrified to see her in the local pub having an xmas drink... but that was her way of coping. In her job (my sis) she sees death daily, deals with trauma, and the only way she could deal with what had happened was to just get on with things.

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On the one hand I find it barely credible that the parents could have had a hand in the disapearance of the child, but on the other hand, there are strange behaviours here. I'm not drawing conclusions, just becoming uneasy.
 
i`ve just read that drugs can be detected in the roots of hair quite soon after being administered.
i`ve read so much that i do not know what to think.
one thought keeps coming back to me...Columbo
the tv detective.for anyone who don`t remember,he gave the impresion of being a bit dimwitted but he picked up clues all along and the culprits always got caught out by a minute detail that they thought he had overlooked.
 
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True, which is wh drug addicts in rehab are often asked to give hair samples as they can tell how recently they have taken drugs.
However, finding evidence of having taken Drugs in Madeleine's hair will only tell if she has ingested drugs and not how (ie, given deliberately or take accidentally)
 
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