Katie Price at HOYS tomorrow



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The "arrogant" bit was not about whether she should be riding at HOYS or not, I really don't give a hoot one way or another, it's just her insistance that she is the new face of dressage and is single handedlly putting the sport on the map. Perhaps she should have stayed at home and practised a bit more before mouthing off.

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Like I said before do you believe everything you read?

Has she personally insisted to you that she is the new face of dressage and single handedly put it on the map - or do you think it's the papers that, up until now have had no interest in Dressage have made her the face?
A lot of the general public haven't heard of Dressage until now, it's not as if there is masses of coverage on the TV or papers about it.
 
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Like I said before do you believe everything you read?

Has she personally insisted to you that she is the new face of dressage and single handedly put it on the map - or do you think it's the papers that, up until now have had no interest in Dressage have made her the face?
A lot of the general public haven't heard of Dressage until now, it's not as if there is masses of coverage on the TV or papers about it.

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She has now said similar on tv in interviews etc, or shouldn't I believe that, perhaps it was a lookalike?
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As for the coverge, what hve we really gained? A few articles on her doing a bit of unimpressive riding e.g. the coverage of her unaffiliated prelim does not exactly make the sport look exciting, skillful or fun so I'm not sure that it is going to inspire the general public to take up riding or dressage.

I do think it is good that she has taken up the sport, she obviously enjoys her horses and no doubt has the resources to give it a good go. However I do think tht its a shame that she uses it for yet more publicity, whether for her latest clothing line or other reasons. Its a shame she can't just get on and eventually be respected for her hard work or talent rather than making a show of herself before she is ready.
 
I just dont see how Katie could not just work away at the training and go and do affiliated competition. Zara Phillips did not do any big shows, she did the training, hard graft and competitions to put her where she is today, which has made her one of the best eventing riders.

Nobody is downing the fact that Katie has aspirations, we all have, and I have said before I wish her all the best for the future. But why did she decide to go to HOYS and do that awful display if it was not solely for publicity for herself, her books and clothes range.....afterall Katie loves the limelight and is a business women? You can call me sceptical if you want....
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Yeah it took a lot of guts and courage, but just look what publicity she has got for doing what she has done, and she has got her targeted audience as well for her business ventures....so you cant take away the fact she is a good business woman!
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...going off on a bit of a tangent from a dressage novice!!
1. I agree that it was a scary thing to do, I couldnt have got AV through the curtain let alone anything else

2. Her stylist should be sacked as I think that bouncy fluffy hair and white gloves accentuated her bouncing a bit (whilst a agree that white gloves look v.smart, doest work if you cant pull it off!)

3. Is BD like BSJA and if her horse is a schoolmaster, (somebody on another post mentioned previoulsy called blaze)- presumably been through the BD ranks, can she actually compete at affiliated Prelim/Novice/Elementary level or will she have to start according to horses dressage points? Is it the combination that accumulates points or the horse?
 
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Like I said before do you believe everything you read?



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She has been directly quoted several times saying that she believes that "nobody had heard of dressage til she started it," that she is "bringing glamour to the sport" and that she should not be discounted for the 2012 Olympics.

If she wants to work hard and compete seriously, fair play to her - but I don't like the arrogant comments she is making and I don't really believe she is serious about it - it all strikes me as a publicity venture.
 
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She has been directly quoted several times saying that she believes that "nobody had heard of dressage til she started it," that she is "bringing glamour to the sport" and that she should not be discounted for the 2012 Olympics.

If she wants to work hard and compete seriously, fair play to her - but I don't like the arrogant comments she is making and I don't really believe she is serious about it - it all strikes me as a publicity venture.

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Quite, I haven't heard anything from her raising the profile of dressage - all she has done is promote Katie Price with dressage being the latest vehicle to create headlines. She hasn't said one word about the actual sport or what it involves - all she does is prattle on about how she is bringing "glamour" to the sport (while getting in a plug for her vile clothing range) and challenging their "snobby" attitude.

Though Simon Barnes put it better then I can - from his comment in the Times
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Dressage ill-served by Ms Price's lip service

They keep telling me it's good for the sport. Good for the sport to have a bimbo in a silly hat doing a dressage performance while sitting like a sack of spuds. That was Katie Price, aka Jordan, performing at the Horse of the Year Show in Birmingham last week while wearing half a dozen protective layers of make-up.

Oh, she brought the house down all right, but it wasn't silly little girls who want to be dressage riders, it was silly little girls who want to be supermodels. Just one more bit of fame culture, adroitly manipulated by someone who is famous for being famous.

Good on her for having a go and all that, and for her correctly self-disparaging line “at least I didn't fall off”. Her sudden embracing of equestrianism does make the excellent point that the horsey world is in many ways a classless society. I'm all for kicking out stuffiness, but dressage is a thing of beauty by itself and it needs no pouting and no lip gloss to make it so.

The best advertisement for sport is sport, and sport at the highest level of attainment is better than anything any publicist could dream of. Having a go is one thing, but great sport is a different matter.

Apparently, Ms Price is aiming at the Olympic Games in 2012. Well, I'll just have to apologise very nicely when she makes it, won't I?



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you know something, i am no katie fan but if she was arrogant watch she did about the popularity of dressage, could someone please tell me the last time dressage mad the national press? i suspect when Dutch Courage went to the Olympics. was katie even born then.
and frankly if she promotes katie as well, so what, britsh dressage cant even begin to afford the PR that katie is bringing (mostly good to the general public who unlike simon barnes, dont know about being proper in a prescribed dressage fashion. and she has kept her clothes on, something the BSJA might note.
 
it was admittedly quite funny but probably will have annoyed any katie fans who might just have started believing not all horsey people were rich stck up snobs .
 
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you know something, i am no katie fan but if she was arrogant watch she did about the popularity of dressage, could someone please tell me the last time dressage mad the national press? i suspect when Dutch Courage went to the Olympics. was katie even born then.
and frankly if she promotes katie as well, so what, britsh dressage cant even begin to afford the PR that katie is bringing (mostly good to the general public who unlike simon barnes, dont know about being proper in a prescribed dressage fashion. and she has kept her clothes on, something the BSJA might note.

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I agree, but wht I'm struggling with is where is this publicity going to get the sport? I can't see her displays of untidy riding inspiring the general public to suddenly get involved with dressage. The publicity generated has been very useful for her own clothing line but what else?

She's no fool so well done to her for getting us all talking about her and her new range!
 
I think most of us would love to be in the position that Katie is in at the moment. However I don't believe she has the time, commitment or ability to ever make it to the Olympics. No doubt with regular training she will improve as we all would but I would be very surprised to see her compete regularly and do well at high level dressage. This is not meant unkindly but she has too much else going on in her life. She has, though done well to achieve what she has so far, but I think a fairy godmother has been up there waving a very big pink wand over the glamour girl. ( but somebody tell her about her hair!!!)
 
Just look at the amount of hits this topic shows ?

The girl is determined and she has done well so far, like everyone else i wish her all the luck and hope she does well
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I've enjoyed reading these posts, but surely there is a serious point to be made about Ms Price's shocking display on Sunday night. The lovely horse she was riding had obviously been well trained to be submissive and light in the hand (in classical dressage the horse accepts the bit and trusts the hands of the rider), but it looked as if it was having a terrible time. With all the concern about the use of Rollkur isn't it time someone pointed out that the effect Ms Price had on her horse's mouth was just as bad, if not worse, than anything a classical dressage rider could ever inflict, no matter what their training methods? The truth is that, love her or hate her, Ms Price's seat is not independent of her hands (she holds on by the reins - if you took them away she would probably fall off), add to that the fact that she holds her hands flat (like riding a bike - a dreadful habit, which is very hard to correct once established) and you have a situation that inflicts awful pain on the horse. I sincerely hope that her trainer improves her soon because such cruelty cannot be good for the sport.
 
I would just like to state my opinion on this, since I saw it on You Tube.

What a complete and utter insult to the grace, beauty and elegance of our sport. Our sport is elegant and beautiful through our beautiful horses and the movements, not through make up 3 inches thick, looking like a fancy dress victim in an adult magazine.

I have absolutely no objection to someone "famous" (if you can call her that) doing a sport, none at all but if she is going to get involved in this sport, she should at least have the decency to follow the traditions that the sport has. Surely with all her money, 20 quid for a stock and hairnet would not be asking too much???? How insulting is that to our sport that she is trying to "promote" is she can't even dress correctly and have her hair up, without having put her makeup on with a trowel.

This demonstration was nothing other than a publicity stunt for, as someone so aplty put, "her vile line of clothing". If she was truly interested in the sport and equestrianism as a whole, she would have not come out doing movements beyond her capabilities dressed like that. In any other sport, she would have been fined for putting the sport into disrepute.

And if any of you are thinking of telling me that I am only jealous, please don't. I am not jealous and have no problem with her doing a demonstration or competing in dressage, its just surely not a lot to ask that she shows the bare minimum of respect for not only the tradition of our sport but the BD rules on Dress Code.......

I have to say if thats the face of dressage in the UK (and I know that its not), then its little wonder we don't do anything at the Olympics and other international competitions. My german trainer would surely have a few choice words if he saw that video and I am pretty sure that would NEVER be allowed to happen on the continent.
 
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