Katie Price fails to raise money for horse sanctuary - Horses now doomed?

thats is pennys to them people, like simon cowell and kp ect. shambles on horses behalf they failed to put there hand in there own pocket, shame on them, spend thousand and millions on **** and then bacj=k this and fail. shame on them
 
Far be it from me to criticize someone trying to help, but to run any operation involving 54 horses, whether rescue or not, requires some serious cash and commitment. The decision to take on so many horses does not look like a good one here - I am sure the intentions were good but the long term planning is not so great.

£600K is a lot of money. Buying land is also a money pit. Simply buying the land will not guarantee these horses' futures. Every year, the land will need to be cared for (costs money) and the horses will need hay (more money) and there will be many more expenses along the way. For KP or any other well-wisher to donate would not be the answer to this operation's problems.

I am someone who is of the opinion that death is not the worst thing that can happen to a horse. Neglect, ill-treatment and starvation is worse. Yes, it's really sad to put a healthy horse to sleep but if it's humane and the only other alternative is an uncertain and unloved future, then which is the lesser of two evils. I am of the belief that we all try and help what horses we can by taking personal responsibility for those in our care. You can't save every horse on earth but you can save 1 or maybe 2 by ensuring you have enough money to care properly for them permanently. It would be very easy for me to rescue more horses than I had money for but it would, in the end, be doing them a disservice.
 
charm said:
thats is pennys to them people, like simon cowell and kp ect. shambles on horses behalf they failed to put there hand in there own pocket, shame on them, spend thousand and millions on **** and then bacj=k this and fail. shame on them
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And what exactly have you done for this case?... I hardly think you're in a place to criticise? So no, No shame on them. Shame on you, to sit there criticising someone for trying when you've done nothing?
 
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Charm, have you read the thread? Just curious.
There is a great property for sale near me with lots of land, would make a great sanctuary if anyone would care to buy it for me.
 
Brontie said:
And what exactly have you done for this case?... I hardly think you're in a place to criticise? So no, No shame on them. Shame on you, to sit there criticising someone for trying when you've done nothing?
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i have raised money for horses before, and help out at my local disabled riding school and raise money fo its upkeep yearly by sponsered rides ect fun days, all i am saying is that for people that have sooooooooo and i mean soooooooooo much money to start this and 600,000 is pennys to kp and simon cowell, to fail and not add the rest themselevs is shameful. i am aloud to have my own thoughts on this, from the thread that is what i took from it.
 
I totally agree with benson 21, ive actually been to the place which im afraid imoa cannot be called a sanctuary.
50-60 horses some living in deplorable conditions, due to being unable to be handled, mucked etc. Their quality of life was no existent, and some where most definately in need of vetinary assistance.
Though all that aside they were feed and watered, but is that enough?????
Through the local grapevine it is said that the celebrity's visited and then withdrew their offers, now whether this is correct I have no personal idea.
 
charm said:
i have raised money for horses before, and help out at my local disabled riding school and raise money fo its upkeep yearly by sponsered rides ect fun days, all i am saying is that for people that have sooooooooo and i mean soooooooooo much money to start this and 600,000 is pennys to kp and simon cowell, to fail and not add the rest themselevs is shameful. i am aloud to have my own thoughts on this, from the thread that is what i took from it.
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Of course you're allowed your own thoughts on this, as is everyone. But I personally disagree with your opinion. KP has donated to other charities throughout the years, and done a lot of work for other people. And just because she didn't this time, it's shame on her? Sorry, but I admire your efforts but in the long run, I think Kp's probably donated 2 if not 3 the amount you have other the years. It's her money, and she should be allowed to choose how to spend it. :) :)
 
Brontie said:
Of course you're allowed your own thoughts on this, as is everyone. But I personally disagree with your opinion. KP has donated to other charities throughout the years, and done a lot of work for other people. And just because she didn't this time, it's shame on her? Sorry, but I admire your efforts but in the long run, I think Kp's probably donated 2 if not 3 the amount you have other the years. It's her money, and she should be allowed to choose how to spend it. :) :)
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hi,
i never said i raised more than kp, at all as for a start i dont have much money, just raised to help out what i could. all i said is what i have done, because you said i have done nothing for that cause, and i just wanted to explain what i have done for other causes. i do understand where you are coming from everyone makes up there own mind and what they want to do with there money it there choice, i was just expressing what i thought and still think, so i will leave it at that, well just agree to disagree.
 
Why is it commont for people to think that those that are lucky enough and talented or wise enough to earn a lot of money should supplement those who have not had the nowt to do likewise!
I am sure all the celebrities mentioned do indeed support their own chosen proper charitys however does that mean they should support every cause or be critizied for not supporting the cause or indeed any cause. What they do and what anyone does with their money if it dosn't trample on others is ther own buisiness!

Remember this sanctary is not even a charity. I too would like some support for my very worthy equines and for any donations received you can be sure your money will be spent wisely infact then I could afford to buy more!
 
Charm I didn't mean to upset you. I was wondering if you could maybe see why someone, even if they had loads of money, might choose not to donate to some causes?
This is not a registered charity.
There are questions about the care the horses get.
The fact that they don't rehome would put many donors off with no other reason.
The money they are asking for will only solve the immediate problem, there will be an ongoing need for large sums of money to be found from... somewhere...
So I still think it unfair to cry "shame" on someone who isn't willing to buy the farm and hand it over to someone (a private individual like you and I) as a gift.
 
Tinypony said:
Charm I didn't mean to upset you. I was wondering if you could maybe see why someone, even if they had loads of money, might choose not to donate to some causes?
This is not a registered charity.
There are questions about the care the horses get.
The fact that they don't rehome would put many donors off with no other reason.
The money they are asking for will only solve the immediate problem, there will be an ongoing need for large sums of money to be found from... somewhere...
So I still think it unfair to cry "shame" on someone who isn't willing to buy the farm and hand it over to someone (a private individual like you and I) as a gift.
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hi,
you didnt upset me, i'm ok. i do know where you are coming from, but the way i read the thread was that kp ect had chosen to do this and failed and that was it as if forget about it. if they didnt chose to do it then fair enough. i dont have the right to say who can or cant do things, was just expressing what it thought, but i understand your view as well.
 
lesleyann67 said:
I totally agree with benson 21, ive actually been to the place which im afraid imoa cannot be called a sanctuary.
50-60 horses some living in deplorable conditions, due to being unable to be handled, mucked etc. Their quality of life was no existent, and some where most definately in need of vetinary assistance.
Though all that aside they were feed and watered, but is that enough?????
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I haven't been but when I saw the KP visit photos it was quite obvious that the big lad hadn't seen a farrier for quite a number of months.

She has to face facts that she can't continue and take the responsibility that all caring horse owners should take when the quality of life is not acceptable.
 
charm said:
hi,
you didnt upset me, i'm ok. i do know where you are coming from, but the way i read the thread was that kp ect had chosen to do this and failed and that was it as if forget about it. if they didnt chose to do it then fair enough. i dont have the right to say who can or cant do things, was just expressing what it thought, but i understand your view as well.
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I do apologise, that would be my fault for the wording of the title.

Katie Price visited the refuge, encouraging people to donate the £600,000 that they needed to be able to stay afloat, she actually did donate some of her own products to them, but in terms of money, I don't know.

What the title meant was that her plea to get donations had failed and they hadn't been able to raise the money.

Sorry again for any misunderstanding. :o
 
What just because her ladyship Katie Price says send money Katie Price only thinks of Katie Price and her image, Simon Cowell and Joanna Lumley you are having a laugh. I pick the animal charities I want to send my hard earned cash too, not some over hyped celebrity telling or asking me too.
 
Hard as it may be, the owner got herself into this mess, its her responsibility to get out of it.

What did she expect if she wont loan any horses out.
And as for people having a pot shot at KP, I dont recall any of you rallying round to donate stuff or money.
It isnt KP`s fault that this place is such a mess!!
 
I think a lot of people forget KP has a severly disabled son to support, god forbid anything happens to her his care for the rest of his life will run into millions, without looking after her other children. She is lucky enough to be in a position to care for her children if she is not around. She also gives a lot of money to children charities.

As for the other celebs, there time is precious as is all of ours Simon Cowell did make a pledge if you look at newspaper reports. Look at the list of celebs as their Patrons no one has had a dig at them for not putting their hands in their pockets.

It is sad, but in the current climate everyone is struggling and everyone has their own charities they support for personal reasons and people should respect this.
 
Yes but he never sees him or even wants anything to do with him, so why would he he if she is not about.

Regardless, who are we to tell someone who they should or shouldnt live their lives or spend their money.

As the saying goes, until you have walked a mile in someones boots ................
 
guido16 said:
So what!!!!!

Does that mean she has to hand over her fortune to some woman who cant act responsibly???
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Of course not - but if that is her belief, then it would be a bit rich of her to ask other people to do so.

I presume by asking people to support this woman, she believes in this cause - and therefore should be prepared to lead by example IMO.
 
I didnt realise we all had access to her accounts!!

Who is to say she hasnt donated financially?? and the fact she donated equipment means she has technically helped. Its entirely up to her what she donates.

I am not a fan of KP but cant help thinking folks on here are giving her a hard time when she wasnt the one who got in this mess!
 
All of the celebs involved donate heavily to charity. Simon Cowell is involved in alot of children's charities etc, katie Price Ditto, and Joanna Lumley has done alot for genuine horse charities over the years.

Honestly, would YOU hand over £600k of your money to an unregistered charity, which is, in all honesty, a lady who has just collected animals?

When you have lots of money I guess you get streams of letters begging for help.

KP went along, saw for herself, did a bit of publicity for them.

I'm thinking on renting a house and using it to house all the animals I want. Then ask a celeb to buy the house for me............
 
really this woman is she really thinking of the horses? when she has said there are all these horses she has got that have got this that and the other wrong with them, but she has no money! I think the best thing for them would be to shoot them. She is a horder!

I dont think at all KP should donate the money im sure loads of REGISTERED charities could do with a few thousand quid but you can't give to everyone. Is this a registered charity because reading the website it doesn't appear to be?
 
I've said this several times on this thread, not they are not a registered charity. So basically this would come down to handing over your money to an individual.
 
i don think katie price has that much cash,..... shes worth just under 2 million but i think the most of that is her clothing, perfume companies and locked in publishing.

Ib also think bthat if she were to donate £600,000 theres better charitys for it to go to.
 
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