Katie Price to ride at HOYS

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She has ordered a new pink suede saddle from wow, pink jacket, pink hat, pink boots and pink gloves. Think the saddle cloth might be pink too! With pink feathers around the edge!


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Oh, stop teasing!!


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MOI????
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Ok it was said tongue in cheek as i cant stand Barbie Pink and dont like KP! I find her totally irritating and I have to agree with her comment about herself that she is mainly plastic.

HOWEVER!!!!!! Anni McDonald Hall I believe did much the same as KP is trying to do in less time, so with the right training and horses she could ride at the olympics. If she achieves it it will be through her own efforts. Ok she has money to help her to buy the right horses and have the best training but she is going to have to really work to improve. At present she is a novice rider but she is very determined and once she has set her heart on something she will give everything she has to get it... be it big boobs, Peter Andre or riding at the olympics!
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There are people in the horse world who have worked hard to get where they are but if KP is to achieve her aim she too is going to have to work very hard and if she achieves it , good luck to her.
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Honestly, its nothing something that would interest me - I am not interested in her as a celebrity, and as you say PF, I could watch a pretty average rider anytime I choose - at HOYS I want to see the best. However I am sure there will be lots of people who do like her who will be interested in watching - so fair play to her.
 
KP fans -

So let me get this straight, we like KP learning dressage because it will attract more people to do the same?

Lets hope those same people don't emulate the rest of her behavior - or would you be happy to see your daughters get their t*ts out for money? And lets face it, that isn't the worst of her public behaviors by far!

Role model??......... roll eyes
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Keep dressage stuffy if it means keeping the chavs out - I'm with the polo peeps on this one!
 
Live and let live i say, Katie has made alot of people
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very happy with her career and perfectly legal too, what goes on in our Royal Family is far worse than what Katie has done in the past... So dont talk about role models.
 
good for her!! i don't really have much interest in celebrities, but she is doing equestrian sport alot of good by promoting it, and trying to shake off the elitist image.....she was a glamour model...so what??? it's legal, why not??? i think to be honest some people are just plain jealous of her....
 
What have the royal family got to do with anything? How will KP do the horse world a lot of good? If she was highlighting equine welfare or raising money for horse charities I'd be raising my glass too. But the fact of the matter is, the attraction she is likely to bring to horses is comparable to that brought to dalmatians by the 101 film, and owls by Harry Potter. I'd rather horses be considered elitist, than have every idiot who's bored with their last four legged friend picking one up cheap from the sales.

As per usual KP is out for KP, the PR campaign for Derby House, dressage at Hickstead and high profile polo lessons. There are plenty of actors and actresses who ride and have horses, and they manage to do it privately. If KP wasn't getting the PR she wouldn't bother!

However, what I find more depressing than KPs retarded antics, is the publics interest in them. It's sad, because the influence she clearly has could be put to so much use to so many causes.
 
I'd certainly be interested to watch if I were there despite not being a fan of her as Jordan or Katie Price, more out of curiosity than anything else though. I think bringing attention to the sport is always a good thing and all credit to her for throwing herself into it, I just don't like her attitude of mouthing off and attention seeking. Zara on the other hand has my respect for her attitude and for her talent - which didn't come as part of the silver spoon package
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Good for her!

don't matter how much you pay for the perfect horse, if you are a crap rider you will still fail. I will be routing for her even though she's not on my fave person list !! I am a sucker for under dogs and in our equestrian world thats what she is being painted as!

I think she is brave, not a fan but am a fan of live and let live...
 
Good lord - I didn't realise how many people are bigots because of how Katie made her money.

Frankly you should be less concerned about someone exposing a body part for money and more concerned about the hundred of thousands of men that pay for this! Perhaps you should be less concerned for your daughters and focus on why your sons turn into repressed pervs?

Is this really any worse than someone who exploits other people for money? Most of the rich families in the UK are built on exploitation and blood, but as long as they sound posh that's ok then! Cartier themselves have been doing a huge amount to become socially responsible, after all their cartel didn't have the most ethical of starts.

I am disgusted by some of these comments about Katie, it just highlights that the snobbery in equestrianism is still alive and kicking.
 
Here Here (or is it Hear Hear, I can never remember) CSJ!

And teddybrowne, I hardly think that her dressage will lead to girls wanting to emulate her *rolls eyes* Sadly the young girls of today would be happy to get their kit off if it means *fame* as that seemingly is the be all and end all in today's society - sadly very few, if any, will be as successful as KP as she isn't just a body with tits, there is a big and clever brain in there too.
 
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Good lord - I didn't realise how many people are bigots because of how Katie made her money.

Frankly you should be less concerned about someone exposing a body part for money and more concerned about the hundred of thousands of men that pay for this! Perhaps you should be less concerned for your daughters and focus on why your sons turn into repressed pervs?

Is this really any worse than someone who exploits other people for money? Most of the rich families in the UK are built on exploitation and blood, but as long as they sound posh that's ok then! Cartier themselves have been doing a huge amount to become socially responsible, after all their cartel didn't have the most ethical of starts.

I am disgusted by some of these comments about Katie, it just highlights that the snobbery in equestrianism is still alive and kicking.

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What an ill informed and prejudiced response!

First of all, 'bigot' is an overused and almost meaningless word. The definition is, one who strongly adheres to his own opinion, and refuses to consider anothers. Which would be just about all of us. And regardless of whether one is or is not a bigot, it seems unlikely that one would have developed this tendency 'because' of how this woman made her money.

Having absolute moral standards is not bigotry, it is a refusal to bow to modern relativist attitudes. It is absolutely morally wrong to behave as this woman has done. Full stop. Claptrap about personas and not really being her is just poppycock. Anything for money, the means justifies the end, is moral bankruptcy.

However, judging people on how their ancestors carried on, that really is prejudiced and intolerant. The chips on shoulders are visible from here.

If you take as an example of the 'rich families of this country' the Fox Pitts, I have no notion of how they made their money, maybe it was through the slave trade, I could find out if I could be bothered, but I can't, because I shall continue to judge William in the light of his own behaviour, not that of his distant ancestors. I don't give a fig if he 'sounds posh' (which itself is inverted snobbery) or not, if he starts behaving like Jordan, whatever it enables him to do in the field of eventing, I shall retain my right to think of him as immoral lowlife.

If I had sons instead of daughters, I would currently be very happy for them to look up to WFP, assuming they did so based on his own merits, rather than sneakily having looked him up in Debtretts and decided to admire him for the (possibly) piratical exploits of his forbears. As it stands, I have daughters, and I shall continue to encourage them to steer clear of immorality, and encourage them to look up to decent people.

What gives you the right to assert that our sons are disadvantaged in the way you describe in not very nice language, I can't say. But what I can say is that right and wrong are not relative, nor have they ever been until very, very recently. Some things are right, and some are wrong. Having the moral courage to distinguish between the two is not snobbery, (That is discriminating between people based on their class, which is what you do.) it is decency.
 
Bigot: One who is strongly partial to one's own group, religion, race, or politics and is intolerant of those who differ.

Its hardly *modern* for women to strip off for pictures - have you been to an art museum? Being a glamour model is a truly ancient profession and arguably hardly immoral, in fact one could argue she was an artist.

Those moral standard you are gripping so tightly to are, I would argue, prudish functions of victorian society, where women were repressed and men merely took their lewd activities underground.
 
Oh, I never said slappers were new. There have always been slappers. But they haven't generally been accepted in polite society, and their behaviour has not generally been considered normal or praiseworthy.

The Victorians had a lot of things right. And depravity is always 'underground' that is part of the excitement, isn't it? The greater the level of sleaze you bring 'above ground' and make acceptable, the darker the depravity that will exist 'underground'.

I would suggest that your derision of those who are 'posh' or come from 'rich families' fits your defintion of 'bigot' nicely.

It's a meaningless word, bandied around by people who are totally intolerant of attitudes which do not conform to the prevailing 'right on' liberal, relativist party line, and generally more accurately defined as 'anyone who disagrees with me.'
 
The victorians did not have a lot of things right - I'd rather have the vote and be able to express my opinions. I appreciate what the suffragettes did!

I never called rich families 'posh' and I only referenced the fact that these families are based on money funded from some very dubious acitivities that were no more moral or immoral than Katie's. Does this mean her progeny will be accepted with open arms into the equestiran society, after all they cannot be held to account for their parents actions????

I was only judgeing the intolerance on the forum towards Katie rather than saying there was anything fundamentally wrong with the rich families, if you read my post I have not expressed an opinion one way or the other!
 
You are totally entitled to your opinion, but you are just misusing words - it isn't intolerant to view selling pornography as wrong. It is a different view to your own. That doesn't make it bigoted or intolerant, it just means it disagrees with you.
And yes, I would hope her offspring would be accepted or not on their own merits, not hers!
And we could stand here all day with me thinking the Victorians had a lot of things right, and you saying they didn't. It's just a difference of opinion!
 
Exactly, but my bugbear (and this isn't really aimed at you, it's widespread) is hauling out the words bigoted or intolerant, when what people really mean is 'I disagree with you'. In a sane world, people are entitled to find Jordan's fundraising methods offensive. And not.
Actually, neither of my daughters knows who she is anyway! One of them idolises Ellen Whitaker and the other one Zara, in both cases, because they think they ride well, not because they are who they are (though the younger one would point out that she would trade her uncles for Ellen's in a heartbeat!!!)
 
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"Frankly you should be less concerned about someone exposing a body part for money and more concerned about the hundred of thousands of men that pay for this!"

- I think child pornography is the most heinous of crimes. Under your thinking I should be concerned only with those who buy it, not who create it?

I think any woman who gets their over enlarged breasts and more out in public is not a great role model - and anyone who says they'd be pleased for their daughter to do page 3, is a liar. For the record, I'd be equally disappointed if my son were to buy the Sun, for the benefit of the third page!

I judge KP on how KP does, has and continues to behave - not on what her ancestors did. So who's the bigot?!
 
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"And teddybrowne, I hardly think that her dressage will lead to girls wanting to emulate her *rolls eyes*"

- So why is she going to be sooooo great for the sport??

"Sadly the young girls of today would be happy to get their kit off if it means *fame* as that seemingly is the be all and end all in today's society"

- Perhaps you are judging all girls on your standards?

"sadly very few, if any, will be as successful as KP as she isn't just a body with tits, there is a big and clever brain in there too."

- Again, your standards on what constitutes a 'big and clever brain'. She may have a big and clever PR machine, but please...... brain surgeons have big clever brains, quantum physicists have big clever brains, molecular biologists have huge clever brains........ but KP?

She's riding in a demo at HOYs because she got her tits out in news papers and calendars for lower working class men to ogle - Believe me, many girls will be as successful as KP - it just depends on what you deem as success.... but I guess we're back to standards.
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Ahhh seemingly you have me branded as someone with low standards
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I have high standards and in most things I am probably what many people would call "stuffy".

KP is riding at HOYS because she is famous, yes, but she isn't there as a glamour model who rides, that would never have happened. She is there because she has now morphed herself into a personality in the equestrian world through books and her upcoming clothing line (my mind boggles on this one, I very much doubt there will be anything in the line that will appeal to me, but each to their own). Yes, she has used her fame to have a leg up in getting published, but that is shrewd business sense.

As for judging all girls on MY standards, no, I just read newspapers and studies that have thrown up very worrying findings, I find it incredibly sad TBH.
 
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Which ever side of the Katie Price divide you are on, I don't think she belongs in the same breath as Zara.

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Very true.

Zara was born with a silver spoon in her mouth, had two parents who were both top level riders, and has had access to the best of everything, trainers, horses etc, from the day she was born.

KP didn't.
 
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Which ever side of the Katie Price divide you are on, I don't think she belongs in the same breath as Zara.

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Very true.

Zara was born with a silver spoon in her mouth, had two parents who were both top level riders, and has had access to the best of everything, trainers, horses etc, from the day she was born.

KP has had none of those advantages.
 
i love katie price, wish she wouldnt get so much stick for trying to be good at something that she loves. isnt that what we all do?

and iv read shes brought a horse from holland which shes called andre and the bo****ks as show name so its not glamor girl that shes taking to HOYS.
 
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Which ever side of the Katie Price divide you are on, I don't think she belongs in the same breath as Zara.

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Very true.

Zara was born with a silver spoon in her mouth, had two parents who were both top level riders, and has had access to the best of everything, trainers, horses etc, from the day she was born.

KP has had none of those advantages.

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Neither had Mary King. But she managed to make it to the top via hard work and talent.
 
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and iv read shes brought a horse from holland which shes called andre and the bo****ks as show name so its not glamor girl that shes taking to HOYS.

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Yes she has bought a new horse, but she said she was taking Glamour Girl on the radio, who knows, she may change horses/her mind
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Which ever side of the Katie Price divide you are on, I don't think she belongs in the same breath as Zara.

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Very true.

Zara was born with a silver spoon in her mouth, had two parents who were both top level riders, and has had access to the best of everything, trainers, horses etc, from the day she was born.

KP has had none of those advantages.

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I don't thikn that Katie will ever be the league of Zara though - no matter how much money you have, you still have to have a natural talent for riding surely?
 
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"Zara was born with a silver spoon in her mouth, had two parents who were both top level riders, and has had access to the best of everything, trainers, horses etc, from the day she was born."

Actually KP has far more cash at her disposal than Zara to throw at horses.

There are many kids whose pony club ponies cost more than Toytown did! One would assume she'd have been bought a string of school masters. But Zara produced that horse from a 6yr old having completed one Novice. In their third season, they entered their first 3*, and won. The following season they completed their first 4* (Burghley), where they came second. A year on they took gold at the European eventing Championships.

There's only one thing that produces those kind of achievements - hard graft, and dedication. The only thing KP is dedicated to is KP, and so I'd make a strong bet that despite all her money and Andrews help, she'll always be a crap rider on a flash horse - which btw was bought as a schoolmaster.

People like you really piss me off Dubble - you have some kind of inverted snobbery. No matter what Zara achieves she'll never get the credit, because she's well spoken and has a good background. KP however spends enough on PR, to do very little and get lots of credit. And why? because she's rough as sand paper and plays the part so well!
 
Last time I saw Zara ride was at Badminton on some poor young horse that she should have pulled up rather than flogging it over the finishing line. My other memory of her is her acceptance speach on Sports Personality of the Year - that was full of character and charisma now wasn't it. So judging Zara on those two things give me Katie Price everytime.

If I had decent boobs and face I would quite happily exploit the male population to buy nice horses
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Last time I saw Zara ride was at Badminton on some poor young horse that she should have pulled up rather than flogging it over the finishing line. My other memory of her is her acceptance speach on Sports Personality of the Year - that was full of character and charisma now wasn't it. So judging Zara on those two things give me Katie Price everytime.

If I had decent boobs and face I would quite happily exploit the male population to buy nice horses
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and let down the female population while you were at it.

I'm sure we could all ride round Badminton and do TV acceptance speeches better than Zara after all, that's childs play. Exposing yourself to all the dumb gremlins who then go out and treat the women they know like sh*te because you've made it all look so available takes real talent no doubt.

There is in fact a name for people like her.
 
Why would I be letting down the female population?

Why not get paid decent money for what all women do naturally? Most women - I'm sure there are a few exceptions, sexually excite men purely by breathing and as for the clothes they wear - well that is shocking - isn't it? Do you believe that all women should wear burkas?

You're right there is a name for her - Smart
 
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