Kiddnapped horse!

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ant121

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I moved to this yard not long ago about 4 months about we have never had a problem until this one women accused us of bullying, anyway the situation was 'sorted' out supposedly. From that point on there has been a very funny atmosphere and we have been ignored on several different occasions. So we decided that to save everyone the hassle we would just move the horse.
So we found our new stables and decided to move. On the day of moving we went down to the yard to take our horse tack and anything we own, when we turned up we found that they have locked my horse in its stable and changed the locks to the tack room. We kindly asked them to remove the lock and to give us our stuff but they refused saying we own them all sorts of money when we don't. They called the police and said they wanted us off their property and have been using threating behaviour. We said we were not going until she unlocks the horse and let us care for it.
The police told us we had to leave and she’s has agreed to look after my horse. This women has had many horses shot for not being good enough and has giving overdoses of illegal drugs to horse that have sent them abit loopy. We are honestly very worried at the fact she has our horse and can give anything to it. She also owns another yard where she could move my horse to and I have no clue where it is. So where do we take it from hear do we get the RSPCA involved or the police or do we take it to court? Also my daughter work for them for the past 4 months and has never had any money off them for her time or effort and she also road one of her horses in a competition to gain points on it.
As much help is needed to get what is mine back, I’m more worried about what she can do to my horse.......
 
Why did you keep your horse there if you knew the woman was a bit loopy?

What does your contract say? Are you a member of the BHS? If so, you can contact their legal helpline for free.
 
Go back to the police. As their fond of telling people, it's a civil matter and you can't be prevented from taking your belongings.
 
Go to the police station and show them the horses passport (with you name on it...hopefully..?) A passport isnt definitive proof that you own the horse but it will help!
 
I feel sick to my stomach reading this and I really hope you get your horse back soon.

Are you absolutely sure you don't owe this woman anything? Locking a horse up all day is pretty drastic action to take considering they didn't seem to like you so you'd think they be happy you were moving yards.

If you are 100% sure you don't owe them anything, get a solicitor and go back to the police.

Keep us updated on what happens.
 
Get a solicitor.

Failing that, the horse is your property and you can't be stopped to retrieve it. Bolt cutters and a quiet yard.
 
If the police won't help go and take back what is yours. I'm sure that if you have to cut padlocks and leave a like for like replacement then she couldn't accuse you of criminal damage (don't quote me on that but it does seem reasonable)
 
I really feel for you.

As someone else has already said, or similar, report her for theft! You have your horses passport and if he's registered to you (all cop shop will need to do is call the office ned is registered with and ask them the name of the registered keeper) and you can prove ID to police, she'd have to let him go.
 
"says we owe money but we don't"?

So, ask for a proper written breakdown of what she thinks is outstanding and debate from there.


Sorry, will try not to prejudge but this could so easily have been someone else posting saying "bloody liveries, causing aggro and then tried to do a flit without paying"..
 
If that was my horse I would ask how much I 'supposedly' owe - pay it, and get the horse the hell out of there. I would rather lose money than risk the welfare of my horse and leave them in the hands of somone I couldn't trust.

Horrible situation but can't but wonder if there are 2 sides to this story....
 
I'd go back to the police (go higher if need be) and tell them your horse is being held and you wish to retrieve your property

If that fails, I'd get a few people together, with some bolt cutters and personally remove your horse

Good luck OP
 
So the yo has gone to the trouble of changing the locks between you leaving at night & coming back the next morning? Sounds like a massive over reaction. And how come you left the wages issue 4 mnths till you were leaving?
 
unbalanced said:
Why did you keep your horse there if you knew the woman was a bit loopy?

What does your contract say? Are you a member of the BHS? If so, you can contact their legal helpline for free.
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we was never warned about this women she only has one other livery, only in the past week have we been informed about her overdosing this horse and then having it shot by 'cowboys' (two men turned up shot the horse and took the body) no vets or anything.
 
ant121 said:
we was never warned about this women she only has one other livery, only in the past week have we been informed about her overdosing this horse and then having it shot by 'cowboys' (two men turned up shot the horse and took the body) no vets or anything.
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Well it could just have been the hunt came out to dispatch the horse and remove the body, all quite normal and above board. Are you personally aware of actually seeing her overdosing the horse, and with what? What might have seemed like an overdose to someone, might actually have been a legitimate attempt to save the horse, depending on what the problem was?

But you have been there for several months, your daughter has worked there, but only now you are concerned about her and your horse's wellbeing? I would think if she went to the expense of new locks, and she also called the police to send you on your way, there is another side to this story.

Something just isn't right about this IMO.
 
Get bolt cutters, a crowbar or an electric screwdriver, take the lock/bolt/hasp or door off and take your stuff.

Doesnt sound like the whole story to me and the language has changed so sitting well back and watching.
 
MrsJingle said:
Well it could just have been the hunt came out to dispatch the horse and remove the body, all quite normal and above board. Are you personally aware of actually seeing her overdosing the horse, and with what? What might have seemed like an overdose to someone, might actually have been a legitimate attempt to save the horse, depending on what the problem was?

But you have been there for several months, your daughter has worked there, but only now you are concerned about her and your horse's wellbeing? I would think if she went to the expense of new locks, and she also called the police to send you on your way, there is another side to this story.

Something just isn't right about this IMO.
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My daughter who has worked with this women, she drew this drug out of a bottle and give it to the horse after 10 minuets the horse didn't no react so she drew up the same amount and gave it to the horse, the horse reacting by fitting and not being able to stand up, she did this just to clip a horse. My daughter and two other girl saw this, when she told me I immediately started looking for another stables and trying to move. this situation only happened last week so we took action fast, she changed the code on the padlock to the frount gate and the tack and put a lock on my stable.
 
Surely the police would have said it was a civil matter and wouldn't have got involved? We had a car on lease and missed a payment (oops, it happens) so the company promptly phoned the police, who phoned us and asked if our car was stolen (no, I'm looking at it out of the window) they then spoke to the lease company and told them it was a civil matter and nothing to do with the police (we caught up on the missed payment and all was fine for anyone who thinks I may be a car thief lol)
Sounds odd to me, sorry.

If its true, I'd take some bolt cutters and go and get my horse. Surely it's costing her more to basically keep it on full livery for you than to just let you take it even if you do owe her money?
 
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