Kiddnapped horse!

my husband and me went down to the yard to retrieve my horse when the police arrived they told us we had no right an due to my husbands size he was told if he didn't get off the yard he would be took away. there was no way of cutting her out the stable as had nothing to cut her out with so the plan was we were going to get some and come back, as we came back the gate were locked and the lock on the gate was changed so I checked to see if my horse was still on the yard and shes was no where to be seen.....
 
The police said they would take away your husband due to his size? Wtf? Is this some new power the police have to arrest people for trespassing if they are above a certain weight?
 
Littlelegs said:
The police said they would take away your husband due to his size? Wtf? Is this some new power the police have to arrest people for trespassing if they are above a certain weight?
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due to the yard owner being a women and my husband being a 6ft6 man shes threw they intimidation one into to it they said he had to get of the property.
 
if this IS geuine - ring the police and report as stolen

and then ask the woman for proof of "what you owe" (if anything........) if you have no contract she cannot prove anything..... can she??

just go tonight and get the horse back....bolt cutters and a few strong guys.....
 
noodle_ said:
if this IS geuine - ring the police and report as stolen

and then ask the woman for proof of "what you owe" (if anything........) if you have no contract she cannot prove anything..... can she??

just go tonight and get the horse back....bolt cutters and a few strong guys.....
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Well what she has done now she has move the horse without my permission I have no clue where my horse is what she has done to it or if shes gave it to someone so we have reported it to the police and its now an on-going investigation to retrieve the horse.....
 
Good that you have called the police, what are they saying? So she has moved the horse without the passport? She has stolen your property, I'd be going in tomorrow with bolt cutters for my tack and belongings to hell with her and taking the police with me as that's theft.
 
if this is true then why wait around?
similar happened to me years ago, the yard owner put the horses out in the field and i went down in the night and took my 2, walked them down the road and loaded them. a week later the owner saw them missing (yep he was that observant!) and reported it to the police saying that i had stolen his horses. i told the police they were mine, showed them hundreds of photos in different places/yards, letters from previous owners etc (this was before passports) and they agreed that i hadn't stolen them.
as it turned out the owner had a bad reputation for doing this, not so much for the money but more for the fun of watching owners suffer.
 
So yesterday between 5pm and 11pm (because when you posted originally it was still locked in its stable right?) while still commenting on here you went back down to now find she's moved your horse and it's nowhere to be seen?
 
This seems odd!

If I got to the yard and my horse was locked in.
I would have stood outside and waited for someone to go and collect some bolt cutters so nothing could happen without ne seeing.

Unless the police had proof that you owe money they would not
be on YO side. Even then they usually keep out.

Sorry but you sound nieve and stupid or very young.

So I think you are a troll! :-)
 
If you own a horse and it's now gone missing, report it to the Police, get a crime reference number and put pics and description ALL OVER THE INTERNET!

If you were genuine you would have done that already. If someone held my horse or took him some place I didn't know, i'm afraid I would do more than winge on a forum, the whole world would know about it and the person who took him would be running for cover!
 
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we have been down to the police today and they have said they are going to send us (me and my husband) down to the yard with the police to see if my horse is there if she isn't then they will take the right action. also at I posted this post at 5 yeatserday 4 hourse later to ask for advice as I was told they had right to hold my horse so I came to ask for advice to do the right thing without cuasing any trouble.
 
TBH if it was my horse 'missing' I would be causing a HUGE amount of trouble ! When I had my horse back (and ideally my stuff too but horse is critical) then I would calm down and deal politely with the police and/or court if necessary - who definitely have bigger things to worry about and I amazed have offered to get involved.

In 99% of cases where horses are actually stolen they fob people off by claiming it's a civil matter (as they don't have resources to investigsate these) and they certainly don't get involved in debt collection issues (ie your YO claiming you owe them money and you claiming you don't)
 
If someone took my pony or child ...I would be screaming blue murder ..if they took the OH I would sit down have a cuppa ..and a slice of cake ..watch a little telly ...then scream blue murder ..I really hope u get this sorted ASAP op ..pay the money and right it off ..:)
 
This is awful - poor horse - anything could be happening to it!

Personally, dead of night - couple of LARGE male friends and some bolt cutters. Done!

Actually, how much money are we talking here? Anything under £200 and I would probably just pay up and tick the "down to experience" box!
 
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Sorry, but this sounds fishy on all accounts and all round. This may be your interpretation of events but I suspect the yard owner has another one which is completely different from yours, speaking as a yard owner myself. I find it very 'ineteresting' that a YO (who has a reputation to upkeep) would easily enter into this type of situation unless provoked beyond reason.
 
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I would have done exactly what balcanoo1900 would have done - not left visibility of the yard until I had all my equipment to get my horse out. I would even have phoned police from car etc etc
 
ant121 said:
I was told they had right to hold my horse
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But you say you don't owe them any money, which is the only possible grounds for any such "right" (and even then they might be on shaky ground without a contract stating they'll keep the horse until all money due is paid.)

How much do they say you owe them? What for?
 
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No I don't either. My friend withheld a saddle over unpaid livery fees and the police made her give it back to the owner so I'm afraid, I do not believe that is that the police would resolve this.
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the police have said to her that she can keep that horse until we go through legal procedures to get the money we apparently owe and settle it all, this could take weeks maybe months we have been band us from going to her land the police no where my mare is and she has singed to say she has to take care for her feed her and look after her. The police have also said when my mare is returned is not how she was when she took her we can take her to court for it! we have been escorted off her land many times now trying to get this horse back we went up on the night to cut her out and she was no where to be seen! she also billing us for her to take care of my mare and exercise her on the livery yard.......as she is no longer on the livery yard she can no longer charge for livey there!
 
Theocat said:
But you say you don't owe them any money, which is the only possible grounds for any such "right" (and even then they might be on shaky ground without a contract stating they'll keep the horse until all money due is paid.)

How much do they say you owe them? What for?
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they have billed us for things we do not owe, the police say they can not get involved with the welfare of the horse of the dispute of money as its a civil matter. the police have also told me she hasn't stole my horse off me as it was on her livey yard and she can take what she wants and hold it till we pay up. but they have also told me that she hasn't got a leg to stand on in court as we have no contract and no proof that we have paid or we haven't paid.
 
".......but they have also told me that she hasn't got a leg to stand on in court as we have no contract and no proof that we have paid or we haven't paid."

But then neither have you any proof either? If you cant prove you have paid her how are you going to question her claim? Surely she can also say whatever she likes so at the end of the day you could just as likely toss a coin to decide who keeps the horse?

".......as she is no longer on the livery yard she can no longer charge for livey there!"

Well the horse IS somewhere assumedly so, yes, she can charge for livery until you pay up?

".......until we go through legal procedures to get the money we apparently owe and settle it all, this could take weeks maybe months "

If you truly care about this poor horse, and you are as concerned as you claim to be at this woman's attitude to horses, then why not just settle the bill and take your horse home?
 
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