Kids Spitting in a Horses Face

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On my way home from yard tonight, there's a small paddock where i turn into my road with a mare and foal in, tonight there was 3 kids (all under 10 years old :rolleyes:) sitting on bikes spitting at the mare's face who was standing happily by the fence with her ears forward just looking at them (probably craving attention as she clearly belongs to traveller types, always looks a bit bedraggled but does has hay/water) so I pull up beside them, lean out the window and ask what they are doing to the horse, one of them says "it wern't me, it was him" great friend :p. I said in my most sternest voice, "I saw you spitting at that pony, she hasn't done anything nasty to you has she so why be so nasty to her", they all sat there shaking their heads, I then said "i know the man who owns that pony and if I ever see you being nasty to her again i'll tell him and he'll be having words with your parents" at which point they all apologised profusely and rode off on their bikes, no dobut calling me a miserable old cow :D

How disgusting though, whose kids they were I have no idea and how they must be dragged up to think it's ok spitting at a horse :(
 
Sounds like the kids round my way!
Unfortunately many kids today are dragged up rather than brought up and have no respect for themselves let alone other people or animals.
Hopefully they learnt something x
 
I'm a reception teacher, and I honestly think that children are not brought up to consider the consequences of their actions - because in my experiences, there are no consequences in the first 5 years of their lives.
Often, parents either don't care about disciplining their children because it's too much effort, are afraid to because somebody somewhere has told them that it's bullying and the child has 'rights', simply don't know how to - or (and this is a goody...) it's somebody elses job!
I don't lump all parents into these categories, because obviously, some get it right.

These kids seemed to know that the spitting was wrong because of the pathetic attempt to blame somebody else, so one would hopw that they didn't spit at other people, but they certainly don't have respect for other living things!

Good for OP for standing up and being counted! Thankyou.
 
Janette said:
I'm a reception teacher, and I honestly think that children are not brought up to consider the consequences of their actions - because in my experiences, there are no consequences in the first 5 years of their lives.
Often, parents either don't care about disciplining their children because it's too much effort, are afraid to because somebody somewhere has told them that it's bullying and the child has 'rights', simply don't know how to - or (and this is a goody...) it's somebody elses job!
I don't lump all parents into these categories, because obviously, some get it right.

These kids seemed to know that the spitting was wrong because of the pathetic attempt to blame somebody else, so one would hopw that they didn't spit at other people, but they certainly don't have respect for other living things!

Good for OP for standing up and being counted! Thankyou.
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sadly there are no consequences for so many as the welfare state has removed the need to be a usefull member of socity or take responsibilty for one's own actions, so we are left with a feckless lazy under class breeding generations of uselless people.. and then there are the working people who have been encouraged to believe you can have kids and resume your full time job the moment you have spat out the sprog and everything will be ok... they will fend for themselves .....
 
the state has spent the last decade and half taking our children away, taking away parents' rights and responsibilities and brainwashing their offspring in wraparound daycare.

this is the result, revolting little things. Bring back the copper on a bike who would have given them a sharp clip round the ear. And when the parents complain, make them pay for their little darlings' anti social behaviour.
 
perfect11s said:
sadly there are no consequences for so many as the welfare state has removed the need to be a usefull member of socity or take responsibilty for one's own actions, so we are left with a feckless lazy under class breeding generations of uselless people.. and then there are the working people who have been encouraged to believe you can have kids and resume your full time job the moment you have spat out the sprog and everything will be ok... they will fend for themselves .....
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Agree
 
skewbald_again said:
the state has spent the last decade and half taking our children away, taking away parents' rights and responsibilities and brainwashing their offspring in wraparound daycare.

this is the result, revolting little things. Bring back the copper on a bike who would have given them a sharp clip round the ear. And when the parents complain, make them pay for their little darlings' anti social behaviour.
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Also agree
 
re: the comment about 'wrap around' day care.....

Our school provides wrap around care - and it's heartbreaking to see the kids at school at 8am, and then being picked up by a child minder/private nursery...... not seeing their prents til past 6pm.
If they are at school at 8, they must hve got out of bed around 7am.
School, nursery til 6, home, tea and then bed. When do they see their parents? We have a little girl age 7 in this sitution and she just cries for her mum..... some react like this, others become bolshy and aggressive and think that adults hve no power over them because they don't see their parents. A common answer to being asked to do somehting at the age of 6 from some children is 'make me'! grrrrrrr.

I agree that the state has taken away a lot of powers, but parents still have the ultimate responsibility for making sure their children are learning the right moral behaviour.
 
I think you did the right thing. It's Heartbreaking to think kids these days will do that. Its a discrace. :mad: I'm Twelve years old and love and respect all animals. I find it hard to think that other children would do that.
 
I grew up to infrequent wallops and a family who were quite strict, never did me any harm. Why can't the state recognise by and large my parents era had better morals, a better work ethic and had more respect in general.
 
If they did that to my horse I would have beat them round the head probably. Although it's a horse and it probably didn't care less it's a total lack of respect towards the animal IMO !
 
At a show yesterday.....several small unattended children from the local council estate were hiding in trees and shaking the branches as the ponies went past......lead rein class- so small children. When asked to stop because they were scaring the ponies and could cause an accident...they just shrugged.

The smallest child...aged about 4...was left to wander into one of the rings and risk being trampled by a large class of coloured cobs.

She was eventually 'rescued' by a lass of about 17.....mum or sister....god only knows.....

As the mum in the line-up next to me commented.....'well- they usually have several of them, may be a while- if ever - before they noticed one has got squashed':eek:
 
Kitsune said:
I grew up to infrequent wallops and a family who were quite strict, never did me any harm. Why can't the state recognise by and large my parents era had better morals, a better work ethic and had more respect in general.
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My parents didn't need to beat me... I saw the bruises on my brothers bottom! :D

I feel sorry for teachers and other professionals involved with children, seriously what can they do? If the parent doesn't support them then what is there that they can actually do? Kids think that they are right all the time and that they should do what ever they want to... They do not know the meaning of the word "consequence" (sp apologies in advance).

Such a shame and a waste of potential. Product of a society that makes excuses rather than stands up for itself though.
 
Makes you wonder what sort of parents they have :rolleyes: boys will be boys an all but you'd still think they would have a shred of respect for animals at that age.
 
Kids today eh? No respect. 5 year ago the horses in the fields around the yard im at, including my old ponies field were being shot constantly with BB guns by a group of toerags, one of the little darling was only 7 at the time. Police got involved and it all got sorted, the 7 year olds mum snapped the gun over her knee and give him a good telling off in front of the officer, but it makes you wonder how he kids end up like ars.eholes even when parents do care, I suppose its also influence of older kids too.
If I ever did anything wrong I would be given a wollop, sometimes with a belt. Luckily I only got a few but brother got them often, so I made sure I was good!
 
Janette said:
Our school provides wrap around care - and it's heartbreaking to see the kids at school at 8am, and then being picked up by a child minder/private nursery...... not seeing their prents til past 6pm.
If they are at school at 8, they must hve got out of bed around 7am.
School, nursery til 6, home, tea and then bed. When do they see their parents?
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Got to admit from the age of 5 - about 13 (when I was deemed old enough to walk to my Grandmas) I was dropped off at my Grans at around 6am and taken to school by her then picked up by an after school care team till about 6pm. I absolutely hated it and the kids there!
I would get home about 7pm and go to bed at 9pm - not much parent time there, and yes, while I did miss them, my Gran (who passed away on Friday, R.I.P xx) made bloody well sure I knew what was right and wrong and that I was brought up properly and taught my manners in the time I was with her. I did wish I saw my parents more at the time, but now I am thankful for the time I spent with my Gran.
I appreciate that they worked long hours and were busy when I was younger but still...
However back to OP, they still taught me respect and how to behave - and they weren't afraid of giving me a crack on the backside either! Had I ever been caught doing that...I dread to think!! Never did me any harm except I was a well behaved respecting child with good manners.
Good on OP for pulling them up - their parents wouldn't have done.
 
hannabanana said:
shot constantly with BB guns by a group of toerags, one of the little darling was only 7 at the time. Police got involved and it all got sorted, the 7 year olds mum snapped the gun over her knee and give him a good telling off in front of the officer
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How is it, in this day and age, a 7 year old has a BB gun?? what if he shot someone? another child ect? i'm not sure how powerfull a BB gun is but surely it could blind someone!

'Here you go Timmy... Happy 7th Birthday a nice gun for you to shoot things...' :confused:
 
poppymoo said:
At a show yesterday.....several small unattended children from the local council estate were hiding in trees and shaking the branches as the ponies went past......lead rein class- so small children. When asked to stop because they were scaring the ponies and could cause an accident...they just shrugged.

The smallest child...aged about 4...was left to wander into one of the rings and risk being trampled by a large class of coloured cobs.

She was eventually 'rescued' by a lass of about 17.....mum or sister....god only knows.....

As the mum in the line-up next to me commented.....'well- they usually have several of them, may be a while- if ever - before they noticed one has got squashed':eek:
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They certainly don't have to be typical council estate kids. I was stewarding at a show on Saturday when I saw agroup of pony club kids waiting for their identifying tabards. One child was deliberately goading his pony into putting its head down and then socking it in the mouth and hitting it, I saw this happen repeatedly. Just as I was going to go and intervene (they weren't in my ring), one of the PC adults went and spoke to the child. I have no idea where the parents were.
I, too, am a teacher and agree with Janette about childcare. However I am also very concerned about the number of children who are left to fend for themselves at the weekend. IN my RC we insist that children have an responsible adult present for any mounted events. It amazes me the number who have to go and search for some-one they know to sign their entry forms. Obviously their parents don't really care who will go in the ambulance with them if the worst comes to the worst. These are mainly children whose parents have enough money to buy them a pony and pay the livery for it but then think that their responsibility ends there.
 
Janette said:
I'm a reception teacher, and I honestly think that children are not brought up to consider the consequences of their actions - because in my experiences, there are no consequences in the first 5 years of their lives.
Often, parents either don't care about disciplining their children because it's too much effort, are afraid to because somebody somewhere has told them that it's bullying and the child has 'rights', simply don't know how to - or (and this is a goody...) it's somebody elses job!
I don't lump all parents into these categories, because obviously, some get it right.
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Ahhh you forget that "it's soooo cruel! they are only babies" :rolleyes:
I always thought your job as a parent was to teach your child all the skills they need to do well as an adult,one step at a time and back up the school whenever possable-seems it is to let them run wild half the time :o then scream at the school for trying to disipline them for things you never taught them were out of line!
Have seen some shocking behaviour in local park,and it always seems really unfair that my son is on the recieving end because he HAS been taught to share and behave himself...

Last time some kids were kicking a dog tied up outside the playground :( When I told them to stop they said it was OK,it was their mums dog :rolleyes: Found the mother,who asked what i thought she shoudl do about it and lauhed boys will be boys :o

Janette said:
These kids seemed to know that the spitting was wrong because of the pathetic attempt to blame somebody else, so one would hopw that they didn't spit at other people, but they certainly don't have respect for other living things!

Good for OP for standing up and being counted! Thankyou.
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I agree-hopefully they will think twice next time too!
 
Glad everyone else is as disgusted as I was, wern't sure if i'd overreacted as clearly it wern't hurting the horse but I personally can't walk/drive past any animal cruelty and to me that was cruel whether hurting or not.

My boys are now 16 and 14 and have been taught respect for animals and people alike, even though I and my husband have always worked I have always made sure they have values and appreciate things living or not, I cannot even imagine one of my kids doing that to a horse/dog or whatever, in fact I think my youngest boy would actually "smack" another kid if he saw them doing such a thing, he's as passionate about animals as I am, personally I like them much better than humans :)
 
Janette said:
re: the comment about 'wrap around' day care.....

Our school provides wrap around care - and it's heartbreaking to see the kids at school at 8am, and then being picked up by a child minder/private nursery...... not seeing their prents til past 6pm.
If they are at school at 8, they must hve got out of bed around 7am.
School, nursery til 6, home, tea and then bed. When do they see their parents? We have a little girl age 7 in this sitution and she just cries for her mum..... some react like this, others become bolshy and aggressive and think that adults hve no power over them because they don't see their parents. A common answer to being asked to do somehting at the age of 6 from some children is 'make me'! grrrrrrr.

I agree that the state has taken away a lot of powers, but parents still have the ultimate responsibility for making sure their children are learning the right moral behaviour.
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these kids are out of home in 'daycare' for longer than adults are legally allowed to be 'at work' by the working time directive. It's sinful.
 
KellysHeroes said:
Got to admit from the age of 5 - about 13 (when I was deemed old enough to walk to my Grandmas) I was dropped off at my Grans at around 6am and taken to school by her then picked up by an after school care team till about 6pm. I absolutely hated it and the kids there!
I would get home about 7pm and go to bed at 9pm - not much parent time there, and yes, while I did miss them, my Gran (who passed away on Friday, R.I.P xx) made bloody well sure I knew what was right and wrong and that I was brought up properly and taught my manners in the time I was with her. I did wish I saw my parents more at the time, but now I am thankful for the time I spent with my Gran.
I appreciate that they worked long hours and were busy when I was younger but still...
However back to OP, they still taught me respect and how to behave - and they weren't afraid of giving me a crack on the backside either! Had I ever been caught doing that...I dread to think!! Never did me any harm except I was a well behaved respecting child with good manners.
Good on OP for pulling them up - their parents wouldn't have done.
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Granny's different! She's family - extended family have minded the babies for millenia and they pass on the family's culture and beliefs, morals and values, and they LOVE you! Not at all the same as 'day care'
 
skewbald_again said:
these kids are out of home in 'daycare' for longer than adults are legally allowed to be 'at work' by the working time directive. It's sinful.
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So what are parents who needto work to pay the bills suposed to do?
School is 6 hours,work is min of 8.
In an ideal world one would be able to stay at home untill child is in teens but most won't be able to afford that. Family are not always avalable or suitable(my mother lives in Surrey,would be a fair trek for the school run :p ).

Personaly,I have seen far more bad behaviour form children of parents who are about but are too lazy to put the time and work in then I ever have from children of working parents.
 
Yunalesca said:
So what are parents who needto work to pay the bills suposed to do?
School is 6 hours,work is min of 8.
In an ideal world one would be able to stay at home untill child is in teens but most won't be able to afford that. Family are not always avalable or suitable(my mother lives in Surrey,would be a fair trek for the school run :p ).

Personaly,I have seen far more bad behaviour form children of parents who are about but are too lazy to put the time and work in then I ever have from children of working parents.
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sorry to say this well actualy im not, having.... kids, horses, dog or cat no different if you carnt afford or look after properly DONT have them.... im more than a little sick of this idea its a right for people to have kids and then expect the rest of us to pick up the tab..
 
penhwnllys_stardust said:
How is it, in this day and age, a 7 year old has a BB gun?? what if he shot someone? another child ect? i'm not sure how powerfull a BB gun is but surely it could blind someone!

'Here you go Timmy... Happy 7th Birthday a nice gun for you to shoot things...' :confused:
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Exactly, I'm not a boy, but at that age I was still into barbies and model horses, and my little brother was still into his action men when he was 7. What makes a 7 year old want a gun??? And they are powerful enough to blind someone, one of the balls had just missed an eye on one of the horses.

Makes me wonder what kind of gun these kids will have in their hand in 10 years time :rolleyes:.
 
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