Killing animals for 'art'... seriously?

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There is more detail on various French websites, but basically this sick freak apparently intends to tie a pig, goat, sheep, cow, calf and a horse to a wall in the Pompidou Centre and hit them on the head with a hammer until they are dead.

Part of me thinks this is some gross hoax just to wind people up, but bearing in mind the rest of Europe can be pretty slack sometimes when it comes to animal welfare, it might actually happen.

If this is actually true I can only hope there is a particularly painful spot in hell waiting for this warped SOAB.
 
I hope it is a hoax. Surely not? It must break animal welfare laws anywhere in Europe. I don't see how it is art and the artist would be better off in a mental institute.
 
He seems to do a lot of animal related art (although this seems extreme!)

http://www.artnet.com/magazineus/features/nathan/adel-abdessemed-2-24-12.asp

Wild animals figure frequently in his works, and he often places them in dangerous situations. In 2007, he let seven wild boars loose on a Paris street to produce a photograph called Sept frères (Seven brothers), and his 2009 video Usine (Factory), shown in his first solo show at David Zwirner, featured snakes, spiders, frogs, dogs and cocks thrown together into a pit to fight it out. “Other artists use animals to represent something else,” he explains, “While for me, they are a real presence; our interaction is direct.” This, of course, echoes the relationship between Joseph Beuys and a wild coyote in his 1974 performance I Like America and America Likes Me.
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That's not art. It should never cross a line in being considered art. I'm guessing its nicer to call this person an artist instead of what he really is. A sick person who needs help.

How screwed up. I mean really, you justify this by calling it art?

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This is the same idiot who put various animals into a pit a few years ago roosters, snakes, pit bulls, tarantulas, iguanas, white mice, scorpions, and one toad and filmed them fighting/killing each other and displayed the footage in a gallery. All done in Mexico. His exhibition at the Pompidou closes on the 7th and there's no mention of him doing a show. Looks like a hoax. Hopefully.
 
This is the same chap that tied a dog to a wall in an art gallery & left it to starve to death isnt it?
All in the name of art, what a load of *****, gone are the days when art was a lovely looking sculpture or a beautiful picture, now it just seems full of vile & horrid things.
 
Tie the 'artist' to the wall and hit him on the head with a hammer until he is dead - that would be art. I may even pay to see it.
 
navaho said:
This is the same chap that tied a dog to a wall in an art gallery & left it to starve to death isnt it?
All in the name of art, what a load of *****, gone are the days when art was a lovely looking sculpture or a beautiful picture, now it just seems full of vile & horrid things.
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Really? How was that allowed? Some people are just really sick in the head, it's disgusting :(
 
If these are all true & not a horrid hoax, then I can't express my opinion of him without breaking forum rules. Nor what I would like him to suffer, however it would involve torture & an agonizing death.
 
ladyt25 said:
No, this is when stoning to death should be made legal - takes much longer!
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Wheres Grant and Phil?
Psychiatric attention seeker. Evil... words that are too good for this person I dont even want to look, I can just imagine the pure horror. This is not art. Please feel free to lock this one up or throw a stone(boulder size would be good).
 
navaho said:
This is the same chap that tied a dog to a wall in an art gallery & left it to starve to death isnt it?
All in the name of art, what a load of *****, gone are the days when art was a lovely looking sculpture or a beautiful picture, now it just seems full of vile & horrid things.
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I saw a picture of that. I've seen a lot of nasty stuff but that picture is one of the ones that shocked me to the core and bothered me for days. Horrendous.
 
noobs31 said:
I saw a picture of that. I've seen a lot of nasty stuff but that picture is one of the ones that shocked me to the core and bothered me for days. Horrendous.
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If that is correct though HOW on earth was that allowed at an art gallery??? If this is true then it is truly horrifying that anyone thinks that is acceptable and it makes me feel sick to the core that these poor animals have to suffer in the name of pleasure/entertainment. It's one think slaughtering something (at least that's reasonably quick) but watching something die a long, slow agonising death? There are no words. :(
 
weebarney said:
The 'artist' obviously should not to be allowed round children or animals but what about all the sickos who must be going to view his work?
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Yes how long before there is a copycat this is realy serious ****!! Mind there is some real sick people who like and see something interesting in modern art , a unmade bed, a sheep in a tank of formalderhide or some blobs of paint come on you cretins its ***** not art... empors new clothes springs to mind !!
 
navaho said:
This is the same chap that tied a dog to a wall in an art gallery & left it to starve to death isnt it?
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ladyt25 said:
Really? How was that allowed? Some people are just really sick in the head, it's disgusting :(
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I remember something about this doing the rounds of Facebook at the time. I checked it out and it appeared to be a hoax.

The curator at the gallery which was going to show the animal-killing photos seems to believe they were taken in an abattoir and was showing what went on, rather than the animals being killed for art.

His work sounds pretty horrible to me, but maybe not as extreme as some are saying.
 
http://we-make-money-not-art.com/archives/2009/02/and-the-ridiculous-news-of.php#.UOgWLXf0-Sp
Six television screens show video images of six tethered animals - a sheep, a pig, an ox, a horse, a goat and a doe - being killed by workers with a sledgehammer. When the show opened at a San Francisco gallery last year it was shut down within four days after Abdessemed and gallery staff received death threats from activists describing the installation as ''animal snuff videos''. These videos were shot in a Mexican slaughterhouse where animals are raised in order to be turned to meat and eaten.

Art curator Francesco Bonami reacted: "Contemporary art that talks about violence doesn't impose violence upon us but asks anyone who has decided to cross the threshold of the exhibition space to reflect on violence and its various nuances, from the ones of the animal world to the ones of human beings. The art of Algerian artist of Berber origin Adel Abdessemed does not try to provoke, it simply talks about responsibility and violence of life.'

The images of the videos are taken out of context and that's probably and very understandably what disturbs protesters but i believe that The Fondazione Rebaudengo would have shown the videos in the most delicate and informed way. I'm quite sure i would not have the guts to watch the videos (i can't even stand the sigh of a piece of meat in my bf's plate) but it pains me to see that an artist is being censored for documenting an action that takes place almost all over the world every single day so that people can enjoy their burger, their 'prosciutto crudo' or their 'albese'....

The last paragraph - an interesting point, IMO. Is he 'just' showing what is hidden from us, behind closed doors?
 
If that's the case then I'm all for displaying it. The more people who are aware of the appalling way animals are often treated, the better imo. Imo the main reason lots of cruel practices go unchallenged is lack of awareness by the general public, so the more awareness, the better the chance of change.
 
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