King of Diamonds Irish draught

gadetra said:
Just re read-that filly is out of a full sister to Agherlow? :eek3: Jesus you don't expect that! On the upside she is fabulous, but a total throw back, in the nicest possible way. Wow though, that is a real surprise
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Not quite - her Dam was out of Little Macha (the full sister to Agherlow). Little Macha was a fantastic mare - only about 16.1 - and none of her foals were much bigger. One of her daughters is by Alice's Diamond Slipper - that one is a very sporty type - the Inspectors didn't like her much. The rest of the foals I had from her were all by Lady's Tralee Raj (17hh, 10" of bone) and NONE of them are very big. Around the 16.1 mark - even the boys.
 
Whilst talking about ID breeding I've a 5 year old by Shenandoah Prince Holly out of a Kildalton Gold mare.
I can't find anything apart from some photos about Shenandoah prince Holly.....anyone know anything????
Also what's kildalton gold like as a dam sire?
 
This is a nice look at KOD with lost of interresting information on the big guy.

Our little 4yo Springs Spirit who has quilified for the British Eventing Young Horse Championships at Osberton can trace his line back to KOD and he certainly has a fantastic jump!
 
Yes great discussion on KOD! 2 of my mare's grandsire is KOD's. I am having great difficulty finding a suitable 4 or 5* ISH stallion for them without KOD's in him, I don't really want to go TB, I probably could with 1 of them because she has more ID in her, she's out of flagmount king. Maybe i'm not moving with the times but I can't persuade myself to look at anything but Irish. Maybe I'll change my mind down the road who knows. But i would have to fall in love with another type/breed to change and that hasn't happened as yet!
 
I have just bought a RID .
He's a KOD great grand son on the dam side . He's by gortlea ruler .
He's 16.2 which was the top end of height for an ID when was i young he's got a lot bone I mean a lot but he's light on his feet and athletic .
I have another 16.1 lovely looking by blackthorn but IMO he lacks bone and is heavy topped he is however handsome and did well in the showring .
They are really really different types .
When ever I look at pictures of KOD he looks tied in below the knee .
 
My 2yr old is the last foal of a King of Diamonds mare who was one of King of Diamonds last foals! I am waiting with interest to see what sort of horse he will be.....
 
I think pretty much everything from Ireland has KoD in them somewhere, I have never heard the rumor of navicular and my gelding's great grand sire is KoD and he has no issues and he is now 13... my gelding has a huge jump I think it is something that he passes down as all of the horses I have met with the same breeding have a massive jump!
 
I've got some from Ireland who haven't, but yes I've got my share of KOD as well, lol.
Never in my life heard the navicular thing re KOD.
 
I've got one by flagmount king (looks just like daddy), big, dopey, does everything, bold and very easy-going. Many others say the same about this line.

There's still flagmount king frozen semen for sale and I would be very tempted if I were looking to replace.

No signs of navicular here and all my googling leads me only to this thread...
 
Sorry to hijack the thread but you all sound so knowledgeable:) does anyone have any info on the ID Stallion Silver Jasper? A google search throws up very little. I have middleweight hunter with Silver Jasper as his grandsire and I'd love to know more about him.
 
King of Diamonds was known to pass on, good front leg jumping technique. They were all very good in front. And sometimes you hear the saying with a horse that has KOD in his breeding, when it jumps well with good fore leg technique. "ya can see the diamonds in him"
However, some people say the KOD horse were sharp and while they were quick in front , they could be even quicker from behind with a kick.
My opinion is, he was a great sire! All the best families in Ireland have him somewhere in the breeding. Great horses like Special Envoy (Nelson Passoa) and Royal Athlete (Markus Hauri) were by KOD.
The king of Diamond mares sold to sweden in the 80's were all crossed with son of Capitol and this cross was very successfull. I always advise breeders to bring capitol blood into kod line. It a succesfull cross.
 
We have a KOD granddaughter (she looks just like him) her sire is Candle King. We purchased her in Ireland as a 2 yr old (she's now 22). We broke her in ourselves (first time we'd ever done this!) and then showjumped her all the was to Grade A! When she retired we bred several foals from her some of whom have won at county level in hand and are just starting their ridden careers now. She is without doubt the most intelligent horse we have owned.
 
My gelding is out of a last KOD mare by a stallion called Extreme of Cavallini, I was wondering if anyone has knowledge of him? Its just that I am a bit worried about my boy who is just over 2 and has bog spavin which on investigation was OCD. He was operated on 6 weeks ago, but still does not look right and has not recovered his fantastic trot that he had, but not lame!
 
Extreme of Cavallini (BWP) was until recently owned by Max Routledge and stood at Paddock Wood Stallions. I'm sure if you contacted Max to find out more generally about the stallion he could give you some background on him.
 
My sister's boy is by Drumhowan Gold, so KOD is his great grandsire. He's a lovely natured big horse with nice movement and a decent jump, although he can be lazy behind.
 
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One of my geldings had KOD as grandsire. He is a lovely big ID now 18 years old never sick or sorry. Great hunter and can do a very decent dressage test. Only issue we have is him is being grey and the fact that he loves getting very muddy and melanomas
 
JanetGeorge said:
But this is the risk with TB - it DOES take-over so you lose bone and substance which is what ID fans like about the breed. For those who want more TB, the ID sport horse is the answer. It is VERY hard to breed a big pure-bred with bone and substance who can also MOVE. My RID stallion is one of the biggest, with the most bone, AND he is remarkably athletic - but even he struggles to breed the BIG HW hunter types.
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http://youtu.be/pNLj8ZvKLvw

What do you think of this Janet? He's a 17.2hh 4 yr old by Sir Rivie out of an Annaghdown Star mare, with 10" bone
 
I avoided KOD lines simply because I'd always heard the rumour that they tended to be difficult people to deal with. The mare that I bred with could be an absolute baggage, so I used a stallion with Gort Boy and Coosheen Liam lines. No problems at all with the youngster who went on to do dressage. I've never heard of a navicular problem though I did find this article which was nice.http://www.horsebreedersmagazine.com/#/king-of-diamonds/4557963776
 
Should have added to my earlier post, I have known 2 KOD grandsons very well, who were both very straightforward, genuine horses with lovely personalities. Both fabulous jumpers.

They also both dished with their right foreleg, but it didn't affect them at all.
 
I have had a number of horses with KOD in their lines.

All they had in common was....they were nothing like each other. The line is pretty diluted nowadays so unless you really have something close, I would be paying more attention to the more recent lines.
 
Hi, realise I’m a little late to the party. I have a rising 7 year old mare who’s by Shenandoah prince holly. Did you find any info?
 
peewit said:
Whilst talking about ID breeding I've a 5 year old by Shenandoah Prince Holly out of a Kildalton Gold mare.
I can't find anything apart from some photos about Shenandoah prince Holly.....anyone know anything????
Also what's kildalton gold like as a dam sire?
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Hi, realise I’m a little late to the party. I have a rising 7 year old mare who’s by Shenandoah prince holly. Did you find any info?
 
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