Kneeing dog in chest

[jumbyjack]

My great niece has a cavapoo puppy, he will be about six months old now. Up until he was attacked by her stupid uncle 's dog he was a confident little dog. No damage apart from shocked, dog hauled off him with ear hair in its mouth. Fast forward to GN is now attaching all sorts of behaviour to the attack and has had a behaviorist come in. Small dog went to meet her and was about to jump up (rude) when she kneed him and knocked him on his back. I would have shown her the door, didn't think people still did this. Comments?

 

[Roxylola]

It's old fashioned and would put me off, theres better ways to deal with it. However did she knee him or did she lift her knee which he jumped in to. One is utterly unacceptable and would certainly result in the person being made very aware what is or is not acceptable in my house. The other would put me off a trainer but not provoke an actual assault. For a puppy that could probably do with confidence building I'd look for a new trainer for sure

 

[Sandstone1]

Thats a old fashioned method and any trainer that did that to my dog would not be coming back.
You need to teach another behaviour instead. ie A sit that means the dog cant jump up.
Find another trainer with more modern methods.

 

[Pearlsacarolsinger]

I would also have shown her the door. In desperation, I might have done that to an older, bigger dog where this behaviour is entrenched but I wouldn't have knocked a big dog onto its back. Turning away from the dog is usually quite enough to stop a pup jumping up. I would probably have also sent the 'behaviourist' the bill from the vet examination to check there was no physical damage following the incident.

 

[jumbyjack]

I wasn't there but she did say it was a definite knee in chest. Between stupid uncle and dated behaviorist they are well on the way to creating more problems for the pup!

 

[{97702}]

I’d have been inclined to give great niece a clip round the ear and confiscate the puppy.... before my more rational side kicked in a few seconds later and I remembered that violence is never the answer ?

A wholly inappropriate action for that type of dog, totally over the top and unnecessary in the circumstances. Sack the behaviourist for sure, not that I have any time for most of them as it is....

 

[splashgirl45]

what did the great niece do wrong? she didnt attack the puppy and she didnt knee it... the behaviourist was wrong and i would have shown her the door except that i wouldnt have employed in the first place.... the puppy needs to go to puppy socialisation classes (not the ones that have a free for all) to learn that not all dogs are going to hurt it and to get used to mixing...

 

[jumbyjack]

GN is a great advice taker and does endless research for reasons for his perceived behaviour problems. Some things she does work out but then over thinks everything. She does have problems with anxiety, not her fault of course but it's not helping with the pup. She now is convinced every dog is going to attack so is passing this on to the pup down the lead!

 

[splashgirl45]

i can sympathise, i have owned dogs for over 50 years but when my little terrier was attacked and bitten i found it quite difficult to continue to let him off the lead as i was worried for a little while that it may have made him nervous and therefore other dogs would sense it and have a go at him. i neednt have worried it didnt affect him at all and he is still very friendly with all dogs it doesnt matter how big they are. tell GN to join an obedience club so he can mix with others and it may make your GN calmer as if she is worried she will end up being the cause of any problems..

 

[{97702}]

GN is a great advice taker and does endless research for reasons for his perceived behaviour problems. Some things she does work out but then over thinks everything. She does have problems with anxiety, not her fault of course but it's not helping with the pup. She now is convinced every dog is going to attack so is passing this on to the pup down the lead!

Ah - I totally and absolutely retract my earlier comment, and I genuinely apologise to your GN. She has clearly taken onboard what she has been told and nothing more - bother the flipping behaviourist!

Hopefully the positive experiences will begin to outweigh the negative in time so she will realise that there is less to worry about. I'd second joining some obedience or puppy training classes so she can see that her pup can have really positive interactions with other dogs

 

[MurphysMinder]

I have used that for a large boisterous gsd (my own) and probably would again if a big dog didn't learn , but it is not a kneeing in the chest more blocking, if that makes sense. Certainly not suitable for a small breed like a cavalier cross.

 

[CorvusCorax]

Turning round is much easier.

 

[scats]

Sack the behaviourist. The pup is 6 months old and still learning, there are far better ways to deal with jumping up with youngsters and I certainly don’t think knocking a dog onto its back is the way to go.

 

[jumbyjack]

Apparently pup and GN are going to a puppy party today, same behaviourist! Will see if I get any feedback!

 

[cava14una]

Apparently pup and GN are going to a puppy party today, same behaviourist! Will see if I get any feedback!

Hope it goes well. Good puppy parties are invaluable bad ones can create so many problems.

 

[GSD Woman]

I would have shown the behaviorist the door. There are so many other ways to deal with this in a young pup. As far as the dog fear goes is there a dog neutral dog that pup could meet under controlled conditions? A friend is doing that with her rat terrier rescue.