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Since i realised my old farrier was sh*t (long story) my horse has been up to the vets to have remedial shoeing and is now fine on just quater clip shoes (his feet are never going to brilliant!)
However my new farrier (on the vets farrier's advise) has to nail up really high otherwise his feet just crack up and crumble, last time he was shod he was a bit 'off' for a couple of days but then was fine. this time he was 'off' again for a couple of days but is fine today.
Does anyone else experience this. the farrier said he has to nail high inorder to to keep his shoes on and feet from cracking so may be sore for a couple of days. is this normal/acceptable?

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Hmm not sure if this is normal...

The only time when my horse went lame after shoeing was when he had nail bind (nail was pricking the white line).

Is you horse lame or just "off"?
 
If your horse has bad feet, why don't you try feeding biotin or similar (or rubbing on Cornucrescine) to help your farrier? If your horse no longer had crumbly feet, surely the farrier would be able to nail lower down and the horse wouldn't be sore? A certain farrier round my way has been shoeing my friend's horse for just over a year, and nearly every time he's lame for a few days afterwards. Why she doesn't get another farrier is beyond me. I have the same farrier, but only temporarily while my horse is barefoot and too far for my regular farrier to see to her. I wouldn't trust my current farrier to nail a painting to a wall, let alone a shoe to my horse's foot!
 
he does have biotin in his feed!!!! i never had this problem with my last farrier (even tho his shoes fell off after about 2 weeks) he was on biotin then as well. his feet do look much better, but the vet and vets farrier said he needed to be nailed high but im thinking of asking my farrier now if he can nail them just a little bit less high!!!!!coz i can never get him shod on a thursday/friday if im competing at the weekend!!!
 
My horse has been 'foot sore' after shoeing. I have a thoroughbred with flat feet and the farrier has to cut her feet right back sometimes to keep the hoof pastern axis and to stop her heels collapsing. The vet knows about this and if necessary I give her bute for a few days. He also puts the nails in quite high. And yes she has Farriers Formula and I use Kevin Bacons hoof dressing to try and improve her horn quality.
 
I have a TB mare...with TB feet...designed for running fast on manicured turf...
My farrier has to high nail her...otherwise there will be triangular cracks from the nail down until the shoe falls off...taking the bottom bit of wall with it.
It takes a brave and skilled farrier to high nail successfully and is better if your horse has poor quality horn that breaks and flares
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The downside is that the nailing may put a little pressure on the laminae and therefore my mare can be footy for a few days after shoeing.
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In which case I'd ask your vet if it's acceptable that the horse should be lame after being shod with the nails so high, and ask if there's anything more you could do to improve the quality of the hoof horn.
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thats what i think is happening to him, just a slight pressure on the laminae which is just making him 'sore' suppose its something i'll just have to get used to?!

ps hes an ISH
 
A farrier recommended limestone flour (calcium) and it was the only thing that helped my girl at all...biotin being useless...all the hoof dressings in the world don't do anything for the quality of the horn itself (although they can alter the moisture content).
Sometimes its just genetic...I blame Eclipse myself...as he was moved from race to race in a horse drawn cart because his feet were so poor!
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Silmarillion - thank for the advise i'll phone the vet on monday and see if he says its ok?!

Shilisdar - thanks for the tip where do you get the limestone flour from (just any shop?-obv not B&Q or something!!!!)
 
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Silmarillion - thank for the advise i'll phone the vet on monday and see if he says its ok?!

Shilisdar - thanks for the tip where do you get the limestone flour from (just any shop?-obv not B&Q or something!!!!)

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Just any horse shop...it comes in tubs as a supplement...but might be called brand names. It is usually sold as a supplement for growing youngstock who need calcium for bone growth.
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cool, thank you. will go on a hunt tomorrow for some!

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Don't know why it works with feet...farrier also told me it would make my horse heal faster for cuts etc...don't know why but it seemed to work for mine.
Farrier is now no longer with us so I can't ask for you...
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ill give it a try and c, the biotin has worked quite well but i think he just needs a bit more! am trying to post a pic of him but cant do it!!

http://gallery.horsepower-photography.com/viewdir.tlx?albumid=114548

this is the link to a ode event we did, does it work? and what do you think of him?


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Link takes me to a list of events...but don't know which one is yours?
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its hursely hunt pc and we r number 223 mr dills

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Tried again but it said 'We hate Shilasdair'
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Well, really it said I did not have access to view albums at this time...which is strange because a moment ago, it let me look at pictures
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I'll try again tomorrow...
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hmm, that is strange,it does that to me sometimes as well tho, then the next time it lets you in fine!!
my aim is to 3de him eventually but whether his hind leg (had a hunting accident b4 i got him) will stand up to the trot up and my nerves will remains to be seen!!

let me know whta you think, haven't had an unbiased opinion of him/me!!
 
thank u, willing to try anything atm, i lose at least 2 days everytime he's shod. think i'll venture into our local tack shop 2morrow

*note to self, must bypass the rugs*
 
I had a nightmare summer with my TB, constantly pulling his front shoes off. He ended up with a quittor because infection got into his broken foot. My very patient farrier only swore once when he got home after shoeing my horse only to come straight back 'cos he pulled the shoe off 10 minutes after putting it on! He was involved in the trials for Naf Pro Feet which he recommended. Also he put racing plates on, fitted very flush to the wall so there's nothing to tread on. Within two weeks he'd grown some foot, three months later he still hasn't lost a shoe, he's lasting 5/6 weeks, (don't do a lot of road work) and I am over the moon!
The Pro Foot is more effective than a lot of the other foot products because it has nutrients which support the liver, if your horse has an absorbtion problem he'll never get the full benefit from any supplement!
Other things I did were; always turn out in o/r boots, not turnout in the heat when they are stamping their feet because of flies, and limit the roadwork to walking.
Ps, a nail bind is where the nail presses against the sensitive structures, a prick is when it actually penetrates it. If there isn't much healthy horn and the farrier is having to nail high its very hard not to do this!
 
Have you tried Keratex hoof hardner, worked well for one of the ladies on our yard, use it myself now straight after shoeing while his feet are clean, trying to get rid of broken edges on his back feet, it seems to be working.
 
Sorry for quite a late reply; but, oh well! I agree with Shilasdairs comments. Ive just been through a similar series of events with my connemara; he was loosing shoes and the nails were creeping higher and higher up his horn, interestingly my farrier said that he could no longer keep pushing the nails up the horn as the pony would go lame, he therefore suggested that we took his shoes off. We did so and now the horn growth is a lot better, the pony is sound and Im saving £40 a month.
 
Jemayni - that what seems to be happening with his feet, the farrier seems to have no option in it, he said to me as well that he could be sore for a couple of days. taking shoes off aren't really an option coz we hunt and event so need studs and i think without shoes his feet will completely crumble

boss - not they're not!!!!!
 
catherineF, i have had the same problem with my TB's feet, he used to get sore for a couple of days after shoeing.. he has been on Formula4feet for 18 months and his feet are so much better. farrier has really taken his feet back the last 2 times he has been shod and he hasn't been sore at all. getting a decent specially designed suppliment if a definite investment, you will have to wait a while to see the results but the difference in Andys feet is fantastic.!
 
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