Lame??!! All I need!

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It never rains :-( !! I've finally found a lovely sharer for my gelding, one who is confident enough to put him in his place when he tries it on, but is also a VERY sympathetic rider and has his best interests at heart! Long story short, I've ended up with her 'having' him 2 days a week and every other weekend (she's paying for his shoes, but I don't want anything else for it!) Anyay, I noticed a couple of weeks ago while idly watching her ride him in the school he was minutely lame - nodding a fraction - she couldn't even feel it, it's only me kowing him so well I picked it up, he wasn't showing any hesitation, just not 'quite right' - so she jumped off straight away, and we gave him a few days off. He's gone barefoot all winter. He was fine after a week or so, so she took him back into work. He's done very little in his life, and she's taking it beautifully slowly, building him up. I popped him on the lunge last night, been waiting for the farrier to come, so he's been confined to school work as he's been a little sore on the road, and he was fine on the left rein - then, as soon as I asked for trot on the right, he was the same - slightest bit lame - so much so it took 3 people watching, and only one of them could see it - others did eventually! Now, he's being shod again later this week, Ive warned the farrier who has said he wants him lunged before he does anything to work out hat it might be. It LOOKED to my inexpert eye more what I would expect if he had pulled a shoulder, or similar, someone else has suggested sidebone. His field is on a slope, so it's possible he has pulled something pratting in the field, however with his breeding, he is a large lad, so sidebone I guess could be a potential? Any ideas?

Sod the biscuits, G&T if you've got this far!
 
The Sec A my daughter used to ride was one day ever so slightly lame only in trot only on right rein when in a small circle - like you say a slight nod, only when ridden. So slight when I pointed it out to the owner she couldn't see it to start with (had to do left rein then right then left again to compare).
Put her on field rest, and she was fine when we tried her a week later. Think she'd just pulled a muscle somehow (prob hooning about).

Hope it's just the same sort of thing for him
 
Dont want to make a big deal, but thats how my horse started with navicular syndrome.......I was adamant it was a shoulder strain as he had also pulled of his front shoe whilst out on his hilly field so all added up.

After farrier opinion if no improvment knowing what I know now...x-ray then mri.....better safe then sorry.

Went to vet and was only 2/10 lame on right rein on 10m circle on the hard after ridden work.

P.s. my boy responding well to corrective shoeing but he only had palmer pain and no bone damage- did not get to mri as yet......hope we wont but u never know.
 
Thanks all.. I think best thing I can do is wait till hopefully tomorrow for my farrier, and see what he says... when I was lunging he was nowhere close to a 10m circle, I think he would have been flat on his face if I tried that one!!! It's all a bit :-( - will keep you posted!
 
Well, sort of an update... lameness has been getting slightly worse, now other people can actiually see it (so I know I'm not bad!) farrier came out yesterday, I couldn't be there unfortunately, but he gave me a call while he was there. Basically agreed, he IS lame, it is NOT foot related, agreed with me that it does look higher up, shoulder possibly. He decided not to even trim, never mind shoe him, as he wanted the vets to see him 'as is', and will be speaking to them himself. I'd mulled over side bone, but he said catagorically not, which was a relief of sorts as he is the perfect 'type' really... now, I was giving him some cuddles (awww) last night, head on his chest, and arms round, and I can feel a very slight, but oticeable swelling on one shoulder, not noticeable unless you are actually comparing them, I did a little poking and proding, and although he wasn't flinching, he did show sign of moving away from it, so I'm wondering if he's been kicked. No visible marks extenally, and no scuffles ever seen, but is a possible option! Vet's are coming out tomorrow, again, (ARGH) I can't be there, but a friend from the yard who is one hell of alot more likely to ask the right questions has volunteered :-) and they will call me as they go through, poor bog-trotter..... a few vibes would be welcome for my poor chap! He's not terribly keen on vets since the ureathrostomy (SP) and I guess I can't blame him for that!
 
Well what a day. Vet came out, and although I agree most lameness is in the foot, I don't wat to be convinced of it whe I know it's not!!! He agreed the lameness isn't 'terribly severe', but did agree big horses such as he, do tend to 'hide' discomfort reasonably well, so he did a nerve block of the foot initially, and after umming and arring that he thought it was the other leg (what??) did finally decide no, it was that one, and it hadn't really improved - certainly not in the school.. his stride range is approx 20% shorter in the bad leg. So, he's off to the hospital on Tuesday - how, I have NO idea - carrier pidgeon?? to the lamness clinic which is run by one of the senior vets who I trust implicitly. The chap wo came out was a nice chap, but I did feel a little patronised, but hey ho, horses for courses! He did speak to my farrier beforehand, and when I spoke to farrier afterwards to update him, the vet had told me everything totally differently to the conversation he'd had with him!! Vet said 'he's tripping because he's readyish for a trim, agree with your farrier thats long-toe tripping' farrier told him it was NOT long toe, he wasn't really ready yet but i'd called him out to shoe, and he's advised against etc - farrier also said he would - well I woudlnt like to repeat it :-) but is convinced it isn't a foot or lower leg problem, and somthing is amiss higher up. So, have now to wait until Tuesday, Vet didn't ant to give him any bute or pain relief incase it hides something on tuesday. BUT on the good side my big stroppy bog-trotter was an angel trotted up numerous times without being a twerp, even stood in a headcollar for the nerve block which I wouldn't have thought he would - even when vet nicked a vein and red stuff flowed freely! so... another wait and see... poor bog-trotter :-(
Coffee and bicies if you reached the end!!
 
Ok time to eat my words and confess I clearly do NOT know my horse! He went in as a day case today, long story short, he was worse when they nerve blocked the 'bad' foot this time, but then when they blocked the other, all fine. Initial x-rays showed he was quite heel low, but closer examination on the big screen shows he has quite an onset of ostio-srthritis of both pastern joints. Poor lad, he's 11. Not sure what the plan is yet, waiting a call from my vet later tonight (and anyone who knows Mr Riley will understand I really Do mean later tonight!) remedial farrier is seeing him tomorrow to try and get him comfy, my farrier will speak to the vets at the same time, by then I hope we will know what we're looking at. My poor lad... I feel absolutely floored, last thing I expected... love him so much, and know he must have been covering it up so well... ARGH
 
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