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Help, my 15 year old 15hh welsh section D has a mistery lameness.

A year after I bought him 4 years ago he developed a clicking sound coming from his back end when I rode him on the left rein. He would always be difficult to get into canter on the correct leg on this rein too. However, we thought nothing of it and continued with his hacking and showjumping up until August this year. I jumped him the last Sunday in July and to my horror by the first weekend in August (a week later) he was running around the field lame on his back leg. This has since continued (the clicking sound is still there but the same as before only now and again). However at the same time as going lame he decided that everytime I was to pick the hoof out on the lame leg he would hold it up and be unable to put it down. It doesn't seem as thought it is stuck it seems as though he is just reluctant to put it down. Then as he lowers the leg he either puts it to the floor without weight on it or puts it slowly down and then jumps his weight onto both legs.

Now into November, he has been seen by the Vet in August who ordered 3 weeks box rest with a week of bute. Did no good, so they x-rayed his fetlock. The vet is totally sure that the problem is in his fetlock, although it seems to me higher up, given his action of holding the leg up. However, the vet said that he failed his flexion test in his fetlock so therefore it must be in this area. The x-rays showed nothing but a small amount of arthritis, but nothing that would cause this reaction.

I have also had the back man out who said that he could be suffering from sacrolliac (sorry for the spelling) when he worked on him it did seem to help a bit, his leg went down a little quicker than normal and he had a reaction by a lot of coughing. Apparently this is a good reaction to the work with his nerves. But a week later he was back to his old ways not putting the leg down. The blacksmith has seen him and witnessed it and asked me to trot him up. He said that he is dropping his pelvis on his lame leg.

The weird thing is he seems so happy, running around the field and eating his food. I just can't ride him!

The vet suggested ultrasound and nerve blocking. My parents won't pay anymore out on him. He is insured but the excess is high and they are not really interested in forking any more money out. So there he stands in a field! The back man is coming back the end of November but doesn't really think there is anything else he can do for him. He did say that if the problem is higher up in his back end then this is very difficult for a vet to diagnose. However, he said he'd take a look and then put him on box rest with controlled exercise (the last time he came out I had no stable to put him into for box rest).

I can't find anything on google to help me and none of my horsey friends have ever heard of such a problem. It is very frustrating, can anybody help me?
 
My horse does this when I pick out her back feet, on one leg more so than the other. She has spavin. Even though it would appear that the fetlock is the joint 'locking' it is actually because she is not comfortable in her hocks. I first became aware of the problem when ridden as she was not dropping her fetlock properly, but she doesn't do this now, only when her legs are picked up.
 
I don't ride her now as she had septicemia 3 years ago and struggles to keep weight on in the winter. But she developed spavin aged 17 and I continued riding her as normal for 3 years, until I decided that I didn't want her doing work on hard ground or roads so we just hacked around the fields. She is stiff now on one leg more than the other. That said, on a summer's day, you would think she was sound, but the colder weather definitely makes her more stiff. Spavin is a funny condition though, once it's settled and the bones have fused, they usually go sound, albeit with an altered gait, whereas is your horse has developed DJD in his fetlock joint, then he is unlikely to go sound.
 
Help, my 15 year old 15hh welsh section D has a mistery lameness.

The vet suggested ultrasound and nerve blocking. My parents won't pay anymore out on him. He is insured but the excess is high and they are not really interested in forking any more money out. So there he stands in a field!

I can't find anything on google to help me and none of my horsey friends have ever heard of such a problem. It is very frustrating, can anybody help me?

Don't you think that letting him just stand in a field, especially as he is actually insured is not a more costly waste of money? I realise the higher excesses are a pain, but surely the whole point of having a horse is that you can have fun and use him?

I have to say you summed it up in your own OP though...mystery lameness, because your vet has not had the opportunity to work it up and do more tests to find the problem.

Google is great but not really a substitute for lameness investigations. It is likely to remain a mystery until a vet gets involved and your insurance will over cover for a year from when it began...

I'd recommend you guys bit the bullet and try and get on top of things sooner rather than later...
 
Don't you think that letting him just stand in a field, especially as he is actually insured is not a more costly waste of money? I realise the higher excesses are a pain, but surely the whole point of having a horse is that you can have fun and use him?

I have to say you summed it up in your own OP though...mystery lameness, because your vet has not had the opportunity to work it up and do more tests to find the problem.

Google is great but not really a substitute for lameness investigations. It is likely to remain a mystery until a vet gets involved and your insurance will over cover for a year from when it began...

I'd recommend you guys bit the bullet and try and get on top of things sooner rather than later...

I think you need to get a lameness workup. This involves lunging on soft and hard surfaces, flexion tests, nerve blocks, xray and/or ultrasound. You can only start treating a problem once you know what the problem is and this obviously needs establishing. It seems silly to not use your insurance when you have gone to the trouble of paying your premium and like IB says you only have twelve months in which to claim. When my horse (who only had mild bone spavin) was diagnosed we decided not to go down the route of waiting for the hock bones to fuse, instead we threw 3 lots of tildren, adequan, HA injections, remedial shoeing - the whole shibang at him as we knew we only had the twelve months and limited funds from the insurance to play with. You may as well get what you can whilst you are insured. If your excess is high shop around for insurance upon renewal. I'm with NFU and must say they have been brilliant and even though I had nearly £2800 worth of spavin treatment my monthly premium went down £2 the following year as they gave me £120 off my insurance (mutual bonus scheme).

I think you need to have a chat with your parents. Out of interest how much is your excess? Did you agree to a large excess to keep your premium down? Who are you insured with.
 
The vet suggested ultrasound and nerve blocking. My parents won't pay anymore out on him. He is insured but the excess is high and they are not really interested in forking any more money out.

Goodness, how silly.

What on earth are you paying insurance for???
 
What Amymay said.
Do you realise that you are running out of time if you want to claim back any vets fees on your insurance? They will only pay for a year from when the symptoms were first noticed.
If he can't be ridden anymore and you wish to claim for loss of use you will have to go through a lot of costly vet procedures to diagnose him anyway, so you might as well do it now while you can claim and while there is a chance of sorting it out!
I would show your parents this thread and explain that they are being really silly. Don't give up and good luck!

Also, did you claim on your insurance for the xrays you have already had? If so further investigations should be on the same claim so you won't have to pay another excess. If not you might be able to claim back what you paid at that point and join it together as one big claim called 'mystery lameness'.
 
Thank you everybody.

My trainer is coming out next weekend to have a look and with a bit of luck she can talk sense into them. I think the trouble is they are not horsey minded and they see the problem as stress and hassle and don't want it. No matter how much I tell them that we need to get it properly looked at they just say to turn him away and see what the new year brings.....still a lame horse I can tell you!

Applecart14 I think it is Towergate and the excess is £500 or £600 I think. Don't quote me on that though!

Weirdly he now seems fine for me to pick his hoof out when the hoof is a little up off the ground, but any higher and he snatches it up and struggles to put it back down.
 
Thank you everybody.

My trainer is coming out next weekend to have a look and with a bit of luck she can talk sense into them. I think the trouble is they are not horsey minded and they see the problem as stress and hassle and don't want it.

You could try the 'you are breaking the law' route (which they could be percieved as doing.....)
 
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