Lame mare

[ILuvCowparsely]

Well my rescued mare has navicular, I am praying for a good outcome.
She came to my yard after the owner answered a request for a mare on loan for a livery. This livery ( not a good character) that is another story, was put out on loan to her and then returned by the owner when she was diagnosed. The owner then advertised her dirt cheap, now as she was so cheap and I knew the mare from before decided secretly to buy her to save her.


Zoom forward - she wants for nothing including special shoes for her condition, anyway she came in several months ago lame from field, since then off work and vet check and told time off. Anyway enough time has gone by and still lame so we are repeating the diagnostics again. Today we nerve blocked the Manika Flexor tear, but she moved and only got have the meds still lame. She is now booked up for a visit to vets Monday to do further tests.

She deserves a permanent home now after used and abused.

So those who want to follow us to the end where we find the cause and then treatment, I will update her, but Monday we may no more.


Its giving me something to focus on here after the last horrific week.

 

[Barton Bounty]

Really hoping something will go right for you

 

[meleeka]

I really hope the rollercoaster you’ve signed up for has more ups than downs and you can help her. Her previous owners deserve to regret trying to palm her off for a few £££

 

[twofatladies88]

Wishing you well on this new journey and crossing fingers for you again ?

 

[ponynutz]

Sending you all my luck for the remaining week - hugs x

 

[paddi22]

I know you've probably looked into it, but we've rehabbed a few navicular and the rocky farm stuff about barefoot was brilliant. all came sound and are back in work despite being lame in any kind of remedial shoes at the start. the horse is very lucky you took it on, sounds like it have a rough life, so best of luck to you.

 

[Spottyappy]

Hoping your luck turns the corner, and your mare can be treated. She is lucky to have found you.

 

[ILuvCowparsely]

Well the mare went up to my vets - heard nothing till late when my vet sent me a video of the mare sound. She had nerve blocked the heel when she went sound, prior to that the Manika Tear was still sore when they nerve blocked it so for the moment surgery on that is on hold. They took her shoes off to see if she improved but did not. They said lets seize the moment and send her to RVC. ( Oh no here we go again). two of my horses to RVC one is to return in a different form.

So that is the up date, still do not know what is causing the lameness could be b the navicular or tendon or ligament.

RVC could not take her this week so buisy so waiting to see what day next week they want her.

 

[Barton Bounty]

Still keeping everything crossed for you

 

[Birker2020]

Well the mare went up to my vets - heard nothing till late when my vet sent me a video of the mare sound. She had nerve blocked the heel when she went sound, prior to that the Manika Tear was still sore when they nerve blocked it so for the moment surgery on that is on hold. They took her shoes off to see if she improved but did not. They said lets seize the moment and send her to RVC. ( Oh no here we go again). two of my horses to RVC one is to return in a different form.

So that is the up date, still do not know what is causing the lameness could be b the navicular or tendon or ligament.

RVC could not take her this week so busy so waiting to see what day next week they want her.

Well I've followed your story about your late gelding and I'm hoping this little mare comes right for you, fingers and toes crossed.

 

[ycbm]

They took her shoes off to see if she improved but did not.

I don't know if I'm reading this wrong, but I hope they aren't using this as any sort of suggestion that a barefoot rehab won't be effective?

I hope she comes right for you and rewards your kindness in taking her on.
.

 

[southerncomfort]

Keeping everything crossed for you and your mare. Goodness knows you deserve a bit of luck after everything you've been through recently. X

 

[SO1]

Good luck I hope whatever the problem is it is fixable.

 

[ILuvCowparsely]

I don't know if I'm reading this wrong, but I hope they aren't using this as any sort of suggestion that a barefoot rehab won't be effective?

I hope she comes right for you and rewards your kindness in taking her on.
.

No i don't think so ycbm back in March her tendon sheath was swollen and the farrier raised her heels a bit to relieve the pressure to aid healing. I think the vet wanted to see if there was too much pressure on her heels making her lame as the lameness worse. I think the vet wanted to rule out pressure on her heels as a cause of lameness as the mare does not want to put much weight on her heels when she stands.

 

[ILuvCowparsely]

Ok update.

She has just returned from RVC. She has advanced Navicular and damage to the deep flexor tendons. she was 4/10 lame right fore.


she was pleased to come home and so was her friends. She can be turned out in a 15x15 small area for grazing for a short while. She also has soft ride boots that seem to make her more comfortable.

Now we wait for the full report and my vert to talk about if we can do osphos etc or anything else like navilox ,m or shoes or what every.

will update again after report and vet chat.

 

[ILuvCowparsely]

Okay we have had report in. Lots of big words, vet will have to explain in simple English. One thing no cortisone treatment but replace with

*non-nitrogenous bisphosphonate* can anyone enlighten me to what it does???

 

[Errin Paddywack]

I googled it and found this, just more gobbledygook as far as I am concerned.

The non-nitrogenous bisphosphonates (diphosphonates) are metabolised in the cell to compounds that replace the terminal pyrophosphate moiety of ATP, forming a non-functional molecule that competes with adenosine triphosphate (ATP) in the cellular energy metabolism.

 

[PinkvSantaboots]

Mine had osphos and steroids in the bursa about 4 years ago for navicular and I took his front shoes off his been fine ever since, not been lame had no other treatment he was 3 tenths lame on the worst one in the start, after treatment I pulled shoes turned out for 3 months and he came sound

 

[ILuvCowparsely]

I know you have to get the vets to decipher the report.

 

[Snow Falcon]

ATP is involved in Krebs cycle and with cell energy if I remember my biology days correctly!!

 

[Auslander]

Okay we have had report in. Lots of big words, vet will have to explain in simple English. One thing no cortisone treatment but replace with

*non-nitrogenous bisphosphonate* can anyone enlighten me to what it does???

Not a vet, but I think I'm right here -this is how I understand it. Bone is a pretty active substance, which makes new bone tissue (remodelling) and removes bone tissue (resorbtion) If the rate of resorbtion exceeds the rate of remodelling, you end up with problems, and I think, vice versa. Bisphosphonates (Tildren is the one I know of) slow down the rate at which bone remodels itself, so are useful in case where the horse has a disease (navicular) that speeds up bone remodelling.

 

[ILuvCowparsely]

ATP is involved in Krebs cycle and with cell energy if I remember my biology days correctly!!

erm what does it do?

 

[Snow Falcon]

Sorry, I honestly can't remember! A level biology-a long time ago now.

 

[ILuvCowparsely]

I decided I am going to get Andrew Poynton on her case Best farrier as he is a fellowship and specialises in these cases and RVC want the best for her.

 

[Highmileagecob]

Maybe read up as much as you can about rehabilitating navicular changes. Pete Ramey's Hoof Rehab site, Rockley Farm, Jamie Jackson, Dr Robert Bowker to name but a few. The navicular changes may be linked to the remedial shoeing - difficult to avoid given the circumstances. Good luck, I hope she comes sound.

 

[ILuvCowparsely]

Well the farriers been. before pictures pointing her toe - after more comfortable but it is early days, as lots of tendon damage from her toes being too long and heels being compromised.

 

[Ratface]

I hope your farrier's work enables your mare to be more comfortable long term. Money and worry, the whole herd of them!

 

[ihatework]

I decided I am going to get Andrew Poynton on her case Best farrier as he is a fellowship and specialises in these cases and RVC want the best for her.

Good call.
I’ve used him to consult on 2 of mine, one a 20yo with Cushings showing mild laminitis and one was my eventer as a foal throwing a foot/leg. He’s top class farrier.

 

[ILuvCowparsely]

well she went a bit sore the day after so just got her on 1/2 danilon am and pm, she seems more comfortable, it must have been the work and such prior and the new change to her feet.

 

[ILuvCowparsely]

Thought I would post her as it is for this mare
want to get her some tendon boots for when she is in her restricted area turn out.

Don't want velcro ones as she waves her leg in the air, but she was fine with this sort of attachment, as i just tried a pair on someone lent me but they were too big

what is the name for this sort of attachment on the boots
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/12524396...zZXzDMsC/2QPvKY8cu0aumOHOL|tkp:Bk9SR6TfkIHhYA

ty