Lame or bad CC?

LaurenM

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Haven't had her long and she's currently not being ridden. In the video she is going over 3 small speed bumps too - it was the most level area on the yard.

She had an abscess in her near fore which took about 2 weeks to clear and has shoulder muscle lacking in the same leg. I put the lack of muscle down to the abscess - she was purchased from a dealer so have no idea how long she'd had the abscess.

Your thoughts please :(



She's barefoot on the back and shod on the front if that helps.
 
Yes conformation sorry.

I had a feeling I'd be told she's lame. :( Does the video present anything obvious i.e. diagnosis, which part of leg etc?

Will obviously get the vet out.
 
Lame in front, but seriously we cannot possibly diagnose your horses problem and you really should get a vet to look at her. Did you buy her like this?
 
I have previously mentioned that I will get the vet out but was just asking for more information as I tend to expect the worst so wanted to know if her level of lameness and movement directly corresponded with a particular issue. Sorry if this caused confusion.

Thanks for the comments everyone. I will let you know that the vet says.
 
LaurenM said:
I have previously mentioned that I will get the vet out but was just asking for more information as I tend to expect the worst so wanted to know if her level of lameness and movement directly corresponded with a particular issue. Sorry if this caused confusion.

Thanks for the comments everyone. I will let you know that the vet says.
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As the other poster said you will only get a diagnosis from the vet, if anyone ´"diagnosed" off a video it would purely be guess work and of no use to you.

Did she go lame as soon as you got her? Did the vet see her for the abcess?

:)
 
Bruised coronary band. I've been advised to cold hose it and to keep an eye on her. The farrier has also checked to make sure it wasn't the abscess re-appearing/heat in hoof for laminitis. Both the vet and farrier have said not to worry.

Not sure I understand what you mean amymay. The vet has been out on two occasions since I've had her for her flu-tet teeth and teeth rasping.
 
Allover said:
As the other poster said you will only get a diagnosis from the vet, if anyone ´"diagnosed" off a video it would purely be guess work and of no use to you.

Did she go lame as soon as you got her? Did the vet see her for the abcess?

:)
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No, the vets didn't see her for the abscess but I called them on three occasions for advice. The farrier seen her on a few occasions though. Both the vet and farrier advised that it would take almost as long to clear as it would to have become infected (if that makes sense).

She went lame shortly after I had her with the abscess. She was in a state though i.e. lice, pinworms, had the same shoes on for god knows how long, hadn't been turned out in ages let alone worked etc. I don't mean to come across as 'novicey' but my geldings never been lame so its all new to me. :)
 
Hope you don't mind me telling you, but when you trot a horse up you should turn it away from you (ie. You on the outside of the turn) for safety.
 
LaurenM said:
No, the vets didn't see her for the abscess but I called them on three occasions for advice. The farrier seen her on a few occasions though. Both the vet and farrier advised that it would take almost as long to clear as it would to have become infected (if that makes sense).

She went lame shortly after I had her with the abscess. She was in a state though i.e. lice, pinworms, had the same shoes on for god knows how long, hadn't been turned out in ages let alone worked etc. I don't mean to come across as 'novicey' but my geldings never been lame so its all new to me. :)
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Glad it is nothing too serious:)

I am presumíng here that you had her shod shortly after you got her and then she went lame, in that instance it is normally best to call the farrier for them to have a look before the vet (if they can come quickly) Abceses can take a bit of time to heal.

If i were you i would ask that when she is sound again that when you have a vet or farrier up then you ask that they trot her up for you so you know what she looks like when she is right, you will then be much more confident when you feel something is wrong. :)
 
Thanks both :) It was my novice sister trotting her up but I didn't think about asking her to turn her away from her. Hopefully it won't be long til she's sound again (touch wood)!
 
amymay said:
http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=442616

Horse lame more or less since you bought her at the end of feb.

I would hazard a guess that there's a little more going on than a bruised coronary band.
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And as the OP stated she was in poor nick with bad shoes, she has had an abcess and now seems she has a bruised coronary band, the OP is, it appears, in regular contact with her vet and farrier. You know as well as i do that it can take months to get these things right and "hazarding a guess" is all it is, and will only serve to make OP more worried than she is.
 
Allover said:
And as the OP stated she was in poor nick with bad shoes, she has had an abcess and now seems she has a bruised coronary band, the OP is, it appears, in regular contact with her vet and farrier. You know as well as i do that it can take months to get these things right and "hazarding a guess" is all it is, and will only serve to make OP more worried than she is.
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I suppose hazarding a guess is all we can do though, in the end, when we have 'why do you think my horse is lame?' posts, without any referral to what investigations a vet has made.

It doesn't read to me as if the lameness has been explored properly - tbh. But I stand to be corrected.

Lovely little horse, OP. Hope she comes right for you.
 
She is a character!

Still abit of heat but I trotted her up for the YO and the foot fall sounds more fluid than the video.

Which veterinary practice would you recommend amymay?
 
Amymay isn't the only one who thinks "bruised coronary band" is an unusual diagnosis and unlikely to be the full story in a horse with a very recent abscess and muscle wastage above that leg. OP don't be scared, it will sort itself out, but don't be surprised either if your horse goes very lame again and it comes out in pus and a hole today at the coronet band where the "bruise" is. If that happens, some people may tell you scare stories about abscesses not healing when they burst at the coronet instead of draining downwards, but this is not true and they usually cause no trouble at all.
 
I'm at the yard now. She's developed what looks like a bruise on the hoof on the opposite to where the heat was found. There's a small graze about the bruised site on the coronary band. Could this be the abscess getting out or just an injury from over tracking?

I'm waiting for the vet to call back.
 
Just got back. Vet believes it is an abscess that's about to burst and has advised to keep a clean waterproof dressing on it.

I've attached a lovely picture.

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I am aware that her hooves are far from ideal but trust me they are improving. She's due to be shod this week but will discuss with farrier incase he wants to wait until the site has cleared.

Thanks for all the advice so far :)
 
Oh yes, that looks like an abscess :(, on the plus side, better out than in :).

Hope she gets better after this has cleared up.
 
I'm just glad I'm not a squeamish person! It's also the 'best case' scenerio as I was bringing up all sorts like navicular disease and arthritis in my google searches whilst awaiting the vet.
 
i am not surprised she is lame looking at that foot, all the red areas on the hoof are bruises which are growing out. looks sore but by the sounds of things you have everything under control, keep in contact with the vet and farrier for advice and i am sure in a few months she will be right as rain. good luck with her
 
Told you! :) :) :)

Easy to deal with - squirt 3 % hydrogen peroxide down the hole every day. There will be a hole in her hoof and it will grow down without causing any problems. No need to poultice, it won't draw upwards anyway.

This is almost certainly not a new abscess Lauren, it will be a re-eruption of the old one, which closed over too soon. It'll be much better now it's come out at the coronet band instead.



Is she shod in wedges or is that just the angle of the photo??
 
Thanks for the comments :) The last one took 2 weeks to heal so should I expect this one to be a lot longer?

I'm going to flush the top two holes (both on the coronet band). The second hole is less than 1cm from the top hole but is much smaller in size.

She loves getting poultices off so its helpful to know that she doesn't necessarily need one on. Would you keep her or stabled? She's out at the minute.

She's shod normally on the fronts, barefoot on the back. The picture was taken on a concrete slope.

Thanks again everyone :)
 
I'd turn her out, it will help to pump the yuk out from the bottom. I would think you've got it now and she'll be rideable in a few days. The two holes will probably join and you will get a long split in the hoof. Don't panic, it will not cause problems, it will just grow down with the new hoof.

I have never poulticed a coronet band abscess wound and I have never had a problem with them, they all came right within a few days, quicker than with a hole in the bottom of the foot.

She looks like she has lovely feet, I'm not sure you really need front shoes on, my boys hunt and hack for miles without any.

Since you know she can get abscesses you might be wise to look at taking all the sugar you can out of her diet - anything with molasses in.
 
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Thanks about that - I didn't think about her diet. Our hacking is very stoney and hilly. My gelding is barefoot so will talk to the farrier about taking Lilly's fronts off.

I've searched boots' website and it says you need to have a prescription to get the hydrogen peroxide. My friend works in a pharmacy so waiting to hear back from her.
 
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