Lameness Help Please

AmyMay

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I've had some pretty upsetting news about my horse today.

Can anyone give me any experiences on counter rotation of the pedal bone (toes up).

He is being shod with pads and wedges tomorrow, in the hope that this will start to help with the problem. If not we move on to the next stage of further investigative work and treatment.

So whatever people can share with me - all gratefully received.

Many thanks
 
No help I'm afraid but had a similiar day. Always bad news when they see xrays and mention possible arthritic changes in an 11yr eventer. More nerve blocks tomorrow and the horse has now become needle phobic. Hate watching them stick things in my poor little man.
 
Think I'm gonna need stronger than that!! Only just allowed to ride the other one after spending the last 6weeks sorting a pulled suspensory. Currently at the vets hospital minimum 1 day per week!! Just feel so bad as the lad going in tomorrow is starting to get scared because everyone he sees at the mo hurts him. Used to be able to do anything with him but hes got nervy and defensive and all i can do is drag in in again tomorrow for it all to happen again with a needle into the pastern joint.
 
Same! Shortening of the toes, shoes on (for the first time!) and heel wedges! I'm genuinely overwhelmed by the coincidence! What is the story behind yours??
 
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Right, so whats the prognosis for your AmyMay?? If they go for remdial work there must be a good prognosis. Good luck. ali_m I'm also in Dorset, where are your vets??
 
Hi Rebels, I'm near Ferndown, vets in Blandford but superhero farrier in Bournemouth. Where abouts are you?
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He's been slightly 'iffy' for a few days and then went dog lame on Monday. I thought it was tendon. Vet looked at him on Tuesday - and wanted to explore. So came today armed with scanner and x-ray.

Nerve blocked the foot on the 'lame' leg - and he went hopping on the other leg.

X-rayed - counter rotation on the pedal bone on both front feet. Very thin soles and generally terribly sore.

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Right, so whats the prognosis for your AmyMay?? If they go for remdial work there must be a good prognosis. Good luck. ali_m I'm also in Dorset, where are your vets??

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Remedial shoeing in the first instance and if that doesn't work - I'm not sure where we go from there. Except more exploratory work..........
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Verwood, horses in Rockbourne near Tenantry XC course, vets in salisbury along with super farrier! I have horse who was very slightly lame and has just got worse over several weeks (they only want to investigate now) and although fine in walk is now hopping in trot. nothing majorly obvious on xrays but very very slight (need magnifying glass slight) roughness in pastern joint so maybe that. Think if it is arthritis they would do steroid injections and see what happens.
 
Intermittent lameness from sound as a bell to absolutely crippled for no apparent reason. X rays showed all joints okay but solar surface on the pedal bone of the lame leg had dropped so it is now level (supposed to be between 3 and 5 degree angle I think?) Farrier believes his appauling condition and malnutrition as a youngster, together with totally unkempt feet, meant this happened a long time ago but it took the twist/tweak injury in the field to highlight the problem. Fingers crossed it works for both of them- and that Rebels horses get fixed too!!
 
I am not sure if this is helpful but it sounds very similar to something first seen on my daughters TB a few years ago.
Bought as a 4yo with unkempt feet but then intermittent lameness/soundness/hopping lame at 7 and 8.

Xrays showed "low lying (parallel to ground) pedal bones and thin soles.
He had his toes shortened and pads (silicone) under his front shoes.

2 years later more problems with occasional lameness showed "slight" changes in the coffin joint - steroid injections.
Some improvement but still intermittent problems.
1 year on lame again - MRI - collateral ligament damage due to low lying pedal bones putting strain on them.

I know this sounds bad but I am just wondering if it is worth going straight for the MRI and checking his collaterals as having had this problem twice I know it has a better outcome if it is caught early. I may be talking nonsense so ignore me if I am.

There are one or two people on here who have had a good prognosis with early diagnosis - both times with mine it was a bit late and one had to be PTS due to total rupture and hopping lameness and the other is now retired at 11.

Hope this may help a little even if it is not the nicest news.

Good luck both of you.x
 
I agree - if there is any damage to the collaterol ligaments you need to get it early otherwise it is a very poor prognosis. Def worth insisting on an MRI in my opinion.

Jerry had severe damage to the collaterol ligaments in both feet and was a right off, where as Blaze had very mild damage in one foot and should come back to competitive work in time
 
my horse was diagnosed with pedal osteitis last year after she went lame.we had her shod wedges,pads on her feet which she went sound again,then we moved area and changed farriers and she has never been right she has egg bar shoes on and he cut her feet right back which i don't think suits her,my last farrier said she would go hopping lame if he did that and she has so six months and she is still lame and can't seem to sort it out,he won't put wedges on her
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Has your farrier consulted with your vet eventergirl?

The wheels of my process have been incredibly swift. Vet finished with me at 7.00pm last night. Farrier and vet consulted at 8.00pm. Farrier was sent x-rays at 9.00am this morning - and has shod my horse according to veterinary instructions and x-ray consultation at 11.00am this morning.

To say I am impressed and grateful for the swiftness of my 'team' is a huge understatement......
 
Good luck AmyMay- having had shock this week too know how you are feeling at the moment! Sorry can't help with your problem though, but sounds like your vet knows what he's doing.....

Has your vet given a prognosis for THumper?
 
Yes. He was just fantastic yesterday. And I managed only a little lip wobble - so didn't make too much of an idiot of myself. Weeping whilst trotting your horse up is never attractive.
 
To be honest it sounds like a fancy term for foot conformation/balance issues.
Very typical in TB types.

When I was younger and ignorant I had a TB go lame on me with this very diagnosis, 3 months of corrective shoeing with vets farrier, a sacked old farrier and the horse was fine.

Obviously you can't blame a farrier entirely if your horse has a flat pedal bone but the skills (or lack of) of that farrier can make the difference between a sound and a lame gee gee.
When the internal structures of the foot are put under stress there is the potential for soft tissue damage, the degree of this and overall prognosis is varible. So if the shoeing didn't work I'd be wanting to explore further (MRI)
 
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