Tiddlypom
Carries on creakily
Phew, fingers crossed that you can get him this afternoon, but at least he’s safe where he is for now. Even though the £££s rock up 
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Lameness workup booked for ex racer, send positive vibes!
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Lois Lame
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I agree. And don't worry about feeling like a twit, OP. You did well.Well that’s positive
Waxwing
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That's really positive update, hope everything goes well today.
Pinkvboots
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Good update 
I've done lots of strengthening and build up rehab get the physio to give you exercises to do and mine have a water treadmill that is excellent for building them up.
I've done lots of strengthening and build up rehab get the physio to give you exercises to do and mine have a water treadmill that is excellent for building them up.
humblepie
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Good news. They can suddenly drop off. Mine is older but has done that occasionally. A couple of years ago in March he dropped off condition badly. Ran various checks then found out some of the other ex racehorses at yard had done the same. Nothing drastic and bounced straight back.
poiuytrewq
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Great news! bit like my vet visit last week! panic about him not being right and lameness for horse to trot up sound! Relief and disbelief in equal amounts 
Bobthecob15
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So the scope results are in…grade 2/3 ulcers 
who knew?!
Only symptoms I guess were not putting on weight despite the calories and coat looked a bit dull. Vet also thinks him being reluctant to canter was probably also a symptom. Being an ex racehorse he probably had them before…we just didn’t know. No typical ulcer signs at all bar the above, I’m really surprised
who knew?! Only symptoms I guess were not putting on weight despite the calories and coat looked a bit dull. Vet also thinks him being reluctant to canter was probably also a symptom. Being an ex racehorse he probably had them before…we just didn’t know. No typical ulcer signs at all bar the above, I’m really surprised
TheMule
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So the scope results are in…grade 2/3 ulcers
Only symptoms I guess were not putting on weight despite the calories and coat looked a bit dull. Vet also thinks him being reluctant to canter was probably also a symptom. Being an ex racehorse he probably had them before…we just didn’t know. No typical ulcer signs at all bar the above, I’m really surprised
I’m sorry you have to tackle the ulcers, but you have 3 very clear typical ulcer signs there! Hopefully you will see improvement with all of them once he is sorted
Bobthecob15
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Thanks all, slightly worried that he’s not really touched his hay overnight which is most unlike him. He was a bit uncomfortable last night and kept laying down etc but didn’t look like colic as such, he is drinking well. He ate his feed last night in fits and starts. I’m thinking he’s maybe a bit sore from the procedure?
Birker2020
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Did they not give you any discharge papers explaining what to expect?
Bobthecob15
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No nothing! I’ll ring them at 8
Birker2020
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Just dug this off the net. But still ring them to make sure. Sure he will be okay x
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Bobthecob15
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Thank you, he has been pooping and drinking ok and eating his morning feed
Jenko109
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Well. It could have been a lot worse.
Get the ulcers treated and crack on.
And hope he doesnt suddenly become more 'racehorsey' once he's feeling better
Get the ulcers treated and crack on.
And hope he doesnt suddenly become more 'racehorsey' once he's feeling better
Bobthecob15
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God I know this is what I’m thinkingWell. It could have been a lot worse.
Get the ulcers treated and crack on.
And hope he doesnt suddenly become more 'racehorsey' once he's feeling better
Slightlyconfused
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So the scope results are in…grade 2/3 ulcers
Only symptoms I guess were not putting on weight despite the calories and coat looked a bit dull. Vet also thinks him being reluctant to canter was probably also a symptom. Being an ex racehorse he probably had them before…we just didn’t know. No typical ulcer signs at all bar the above, I’m really surprised
My sisters ex racer was the same with the same grade, he alsonhas a huge tapeworm infection
maya2008
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I was coming to say worms too. My TB was the only one I have ever had to drop weight like a stone and lack any energy at all from worms (on a livery yard despite regular worming to the vet’s calendar). One blood test and reworm later she was a much happier mare!
Bobthecob15
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He has had tapeworm recently, in October. I did treat it at the time, a few on the yard had positive tests.
He's much better this afternoon, oddly only eating hay if its on the floor, isn't interested in the hay in the nets. I wonder if he's uncomfortable in that position.
Also spoke to the vets who said its not unusual to have some colic symptoms after a scope, its because of the gas they insert into the stomach during the procedure. They also recommend small mash feeds throughout the day. He's eating his mash well so thats something.
He's much better this afternoon, oddly only eating hay if its on the floor, isn't interested in the hay in the nets. I wonder if he's uncomfortable in that position.
Also spoke to the vets who said its not unusual to have some colic symptoms after a scope, its because of the gas they insert into the stomach during the procedure. They also recommend small mash feeds throughout the day. He's eating his mash well so thats something.
TPO
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Did you test again after treating?
Might also be worth a massage/bodywork/physio session? Ours see someone after dental appointments for that reason.
Bobthecob15
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I didn’t…I did mention to the vet at the hospital I don’t think they saw anything on the scope but perhaps I should retest?
He’s got the Physio coming in a fortnight to make a plan and he’ll get his teeth done again when he is rescoped.
TPO
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I'm happy to be corrected but, ime, it's the done thing to test after worming when a count had been returned. Basically to see if the treatment has been effective and the count is in the range that doesn't need treated.
Bobthecob15
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Yes I always do for the worm count tests if I get a positive, but Westgate never sent me a repeat test for the tapeworm (saliva test). I am on the Westgate subscription plan so I automatically get a repeat test after a positive.
I will contact Westgate and ask for them to send another saliva test. Perhaps it was a mistake at their end...I sort of assumed it wasn't necessary as I used what they recommended. Best check in case.
TPO
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No idea, sorry. I used to be with westgate and now with poo post for the annual packs.
My highest count has been "low" and I've never had a retest kit for FEC.
I don't know if the saliva would be different since it's a different independent company? Plus they'll want thr money!
Bobthecob15
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Yes exactly, that's one of the reasons I assumed they don't send retests for the saliva! The FEC is done by them, I've had a few positives over the years but this was my first positive for tapeworm.
nutjob
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Westgate recommend retesting for tapeworm 12 weeks after treatment as the test is for antibodies not the worms themselves.
EquiSal Tapeworm Test Results
Results accurately identify tapeworm infections in horses and categorise them as having either a low, borderline or a moderate/high burden and whether worming treatment is recommended
Bobthecob15
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Yep they said I can’t re-test for 12 weeks so I guess I have to wait for that one
sjdress
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Please could I ask approx cost of scoping as looking to possibly have my horse scoped
tda
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Our vet runs clinics, it's £140 per horse. Treatment medication extra, as is any overnight stabling prior to scope
Apizz2019
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The normal fec tests can be repeated a couple of weeks after worming.
Tapeworm should not be retested for at least 4 months after worming.
Wizpop
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I’ve come to understand through experience, that ulcers do not always display “typical” signs. Great that you have found out!So the scope results are in…grade 2/3 ulcers
Only symptoms I guess were not putting on weight despite the calories and coat looked a bit dull. Vet also thinks him being reluctant to canter was probably also a symptom. Being an ex racehorse he probably had them before…we just didn’t know. No typical ulcer signs at all bar the above, I’m really surprised