laminitis in november ????

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my little section a lilly came down with it on saturday ! cannot believe that we are nearly into decemeber and shes got it, never had trouble with her before and shes always carried a bit of weight ! shes on a bare paddock and lives out 24/7, shes seperated from the others cos they get haylage at night and she gets a few slices of hay and a few apples and carrots and thats it ! poor thing could hardlay walk, got feet padded up, poor thing !
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Omg! Thats terrible- just shows that there is still goodness in the grass. If I may offer a little advice - no apples or carrots for a laminitic as they are loaded in sugar!
 
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my little section a lilly came down with it on saturday ! cannot believe that we are nearly into decemeber and shes got it, never had trouble with her before and shes always carried a bit of weight ! shes on a bare paddock and lives out 24/7, shes seperated from the others cos they get haylage at night and she gets a few slices of hay and a few apples and carrots and thats it ! poor thing could hardlay walk, got feet padded up, poor thing !
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How old is she?
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Laminitis is a threat any time of the year. Frost can increase the fructans levels in the grass which can trigger the condition. Also, a lot of older ponies develop a condition called Cushings which makes them much more prone to laminitis, and these ponies can develop the condition even when getting very little grass.
 
our companion section B can get it any time of year - has to be watched like a hawk - and not as if she is overweight, and only turned out for up to 5 hours a day anyway. She got footy the other week - might have been the frost, or the fact we had a mild time before that and the grass still growing. I dont think there is a 'safe' time of year with ponies with laminitis, sadly. But we have her loose in the yard for a few days instead of turning out, a bit of bute, and can usually get her right again before it gets too bad.
 
If I were you I would speak to the vet - I don't want to worry you and it may not be this but I went to a talk by my vets last week and they said many bouts of laminitis are due to the onset of Cushings. Especially ones in Autumn, Winter time.... also they have now discovered that it not only affects older horses and ponies, but younger ones too and they can go on to lead relatively healthy happy ridden lives with the correct medication
 
I know of a pony that was diagnosed with cushings at 2 so its not just older horses. The owner had a lot of persuading the vet to do before they would test it, but it did have the illness. If your filly gets repeated attacks of laminitis, particularly when it can't be attributed to lush grass or obesity it may be worth looking into. There is good medication now that prevents cushings related laminitis.
 
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never had trouble with her before and shes always carried a bit of weight ! shes on a bare paddock and lives out 24/7, shes seperated from the others cos they get haylage at night and she gets a few slices of hay and a few apples and carrots
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Sorry to hear this, lami is awful. But can I just say that you did mention "she's always carried a bit of weight" - she shouldn't be! And apples and carrots are very high in sugar unfortunately. Our shetland literally gets 1/2 a carrot or tiny apple a day if that!
 
shes 7 this time, and no kvs shes a dunn pony not grey .... the vet came out to her on saturday night as shes never suffered with it before and he didnt mention anything about getting her tested for cushings ? didnt even cross my mind but thanks for the advice, vets coming out again friday for a check up, shes on bute at the min and acp to help her circulation ... ive heard that frost can bring on lami but weve had no severe frost here and our land is very sandy aswell so its doesnt tend to settle on our fields .... thanks for the tips on apples and carrots, !!
 
About Cushings - in my experience there are rather more obvious signs that indicate Cushings as opposed to laminitis (although all Cushings will eventually develop laminitis). For instance - hair won't be shed and will grow long and matted, condition is lost and the supra-orbital fossae become less indented.

Have you considered using supplements to improve horn quality? If you are, there are some that are better than others - certified and non-GM and have a comprehensive number of nutrients - not just a couple.

Is she having any anti-inflammatories? Pain killers?

I presume you've got frog supports on as her feet are padded up? Have you got her in now or have you left her out? If she's out, the frog supports may not last very long.
 
no shes in now and vets said she can no longer be out 24/7 only for a few hours a day, shes in full time for the next 3 weks till she is comfortable and yes she has frog supports and padding on her feet, shes currently on 2 bute a day but vet has told us to reduce that 2moro if she is looking more comfortable to 1 a day
 
Had the vet out to mine the other day, and he was asking after my friends horse, as he went down with laminitis for the first time this spring and since then he's been going out in a muzzle and she said that she wasn't sure wether or not he still needed it on, and the vet said don't take it off as he's see far more cases of laminitis now than he did in the spring.
 
Laminits can be caused by medical shock.

Did your vet take a blood sample and have it analysed? What did it show?

For instance Laminitis can be triggered by emerging encysted small red worms. These can not be detected in a worm count.

It is threfore essential to use a wormer that will destroy encysted small red worms in October and March each year.

No doubt your vet will x ray all the feet to check for rotation of the pedal bone and provide the x rays to your farrier so that he can shoe your horse accordingly

If your horse has Cushings then your vet will probably advise putting him on one 250 microgram tablet of Pergolide per day.

Another good supliment is Formlae Feet produced by the Laminitis Clinic.

Keep your horses weight down so that his ribs can just be seen and don't let him eat any frosted grass. If necessary strip graze him using electric fencing to reduce his access to grass. Any hay should be soaked for 1 - 2 hours to remove the nutritional content.
 
My welsh A mare got laminitis in December one year. She was very very slim and we had not had any frost, but she had suffered a back injury caused by poachers, so hers was probably stress laminitis. She was nine years old and never got it again, and was still kept out 24/7
 
My grey mare (15 years old) got laminitis last November and she was on very minimal turnout (2 hours a day)....still not really sure what triggered it but 'stress laminitis' was mentioned - something I had never heard of before.
 
Just like to say about Cushings. It is very possible that an animal has it with discreet symptoms. My Dales pony was totally asymptomatic apart from frequent unexplained bouts of acute laminitis.
 
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