Large sarcoid and crest toothpaste, result!

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Romeo has had a large plum size sarcoid on his sheath for a long time, have tried a lot of different things to try to get rid of it, I really did not want to go the liverpool cream route!
Anyway I kept reading about crest toothpaste and although i was not vary optimistic of this working I thought what the hell I will give it a go, have been slapping in on for two weeks and much to my amazement this morning the whole thing has come away leaving a hole which I will now treat as a wound!
Who would have thought this would actually work!!!!!!!
 
That's on my shopping list then!

What a result :D

Any chemists on here want to try and guess what ingredient it is that's doing it???
 
I used Boots Toothpaste years ago as advised by an old stud groom and it worked on a large sarcoid it is the flouride it needs to be as strong as pos that is the magic ingredient just imagine what it is doing to your teeth!
 
These stories never fail to horrify me. True sarcoids are a form of skin cancer. Ask yourselves: if you had a skin cancer develop, say, on your arm, would you slap toothpaste on it and see what happened or would you be banging on your Dr's door demanding an urgent appointment with the best oncologist around? Ask yourself this too - if slapping toothpaste on a sarcoid/skin cancer for a couple of weeks works so well, why aren't all vets and doctors routinely prescribing it? I'm afraid that the truth behind the "sarcoid" dropping off was that it wasn't a sarcoid in the first place. And no wonder the wart (probably) left a hole after it disappeared that you're now having to treat as a wound! It IS a wound, caused by slapping toothpaste on a sore! Lucky nothing worse happened because the only thing worse than having toothpaste slapped on a sore and suffering whatever pain that caused, must be having it slapped on a sore on your sheath.
 
Box of frogs, i am not agreeing or disagreeing with the majority of what you say, as I have no experience or training to have an opinion on this subject.
Your comments do make sense, yet I known stranger things to have happened.
What I will question is your statement that toothpaste will cause pain to the area. It causes no pain to the delicate skin of the human mouth, even when ulcers are present. Liverpool cream on the other hand is very strong and it's always stressed how important it is not to get it on your own skin or surrounding area to that being treated.
 
Also, being a cynical old bat sometimes, I am of the certain opinion that if, and I say IF, toothpaste dealt effectively with sarcoids there isn't a vet in the country that would suggest a 2 or 3 quid remedy from corner shop is better than their treatment. Veterinary practice is not always about what is best for animal and owner. It is just as much about business.
 
Box of frogs, I can assure you it was a sarcoid, pictures were taken and sent to
Liverpool where it was confirmed, the cream was to be ordered if I wished, as the sarcoid was high up on his sheath and coming into contact with the inside of his hind leg I knew this treatment would be difficult and painful so it would have to be a last resort!
If you google the toothpaste you will find vets in the U.S.A will tell clients to try this as it does seem to work, I am just glad my horse has not had to be sedated every day and go through the pain of the liverpool cream.
I know toothpaste sounds ridiculous but its effect on the sarcoid was just amazing, I have e-mailed my vet and will be interested to hear what he thinks!
 
Like human warts and verrucas, sarcoids usually have a given lifespan and die off. I reckon this is the case with your boy and the toothpaste. It's probably a coincidence and it would have dropped off anyway. It's true some are a type of skin cancer but they don't spread to other areas. I found blood root ointment to work a few times on ours also castration banding. The blood root could have been down to the sarciod lifespan...who knows for sure although it does inflame the general area.

I do hope toothpaste works and would like to see a proper test though.
 
The interesting thing with this sarcoid was that before the toothpaste was put on it looked very healthy attached to the skin with no neck which was why it was not viable for banding, after a week of the toothpaste it looked withered and not so firmly attached!
I read an awful lot about this form of treatment and i found that at worse it would do nothing, but a lot of people said it worked, I also covered surrounding areas in sudocrem in case it stung, my boy did not seem at all bothered by having it put on and he is a thin skinned T.B
 
I'm another one who's read about this on US forums, with vets advising clients that they might try this ... So I'm also having a go, with the special high-Fluoride toothpaste that you get from dentists, using it on a smallish sarcoid that my youngster has close to his girth area ..... I've only been putting it on for three days so far, but it does look as though its reducing. Will report back on progress! I have to say that he shows no signs of pain or discomfort when I put it on; I would certainly not continue if he did.
 
My friend had a really good result with her mare's sarcoid (located on the inside of her back leg across from her udders) by using sudocreme but i will tell her about the toothpaste!
 
"Ask yourselves: if you had a skin cancer develop, say, on your arm, would you slap toothpaste on it and see what happened or would you be banging on your Dr's door demanding an urgent appointment with the best oncologist around?

Umm, yes I would actually, rather than the poisons that an oncologist would like to fill me with which will totally wipe out my own immune system. Drugs companies rule the Western world and our doctors and vets, you only have to read about the recommendation that all people over 50 should be given statins whether they need them or not!!
 
Our US cousins have indeed been using Crest (their formulation may be different I suppose)for years and years and sing its praises on a regular basis. I would say there is no harm in trying.
 
I do think it would be worth a go, I was told that if there is no change after ten days it probably is not going to work and also it seems to work better if you do not wash off, just keep putting it on!
My boy,s was in a delicate area so I was careful to only apply the toothpaste to the actual sarcoid, I put sudocreme on surrounding areas, he did not have any swelling at all and I think other than a bit of tingling from the first application, was not bothered about it at all, also the flies kept away!
 
Never heard of this before, glad its removed the tumour,can you let us know if it clears or regrows please, and if you dont mind, can you let us know the vets opinion on what he thinks of the treatment
 
The hole the sarcoid left is healing well there was no swelling and I don,t think it will scar , hopefully it won,t return, time will tell.
My vet was amazed it worked as this was a large healthy sarcoid not something that was about to drop off, Liverpool had suggested strong cream and even with this my vet it would probably take some time, he is now very interested in the toothpaste working so well.
 
One of my horses big fleshy fibroblastic sarcoids fell clean off, roots and all, after applying Crest for just over a week. I have also tried it on his nodular ones but to no avail. I had to go down the Liverpool route with those which was horrid and didn't really work. There is something in the Crest theory. The big sarcoid that came off would not have done so on its own accord, it too was a very deep routed, large based one. Very interesting.
 
flojo said:
Sorry but I can't believe that flouride is a cure for cancer, which is what a sarcoid is, NOT a virus as someone has suggested.
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I thought it was established that just like cervical cancer in women, sarcoids are spread by papilloma virus, in a horse's case carried by flies?

Lots of poisons can be used to get rid of sarcoids. Liverpool cream contains arsenic. I used copper sulphate very successfully in the past, but I'll be trying flouride toothpaste next time first.
 
Of course as sarcoids are skin cancer and prone to suddenly developing rapid growth when odd creams and lotions are added to them you could also look at this as you were extremely lucky not to have a worse outcome-I can assure you that if toothpaste worked vets would have analysed why and developed a similar veterinary cream.
 
sarcoids are also often bloodborne hence the locations and appearances of them-I cannot stress enough-get your VET to examine sarcoids before trying ANY treatment as you could end up with a far worse situation.
 
ribbons said:
Also, being a cynical old bat sometimes, I am of the certain opinion that if, and I say IF, toothpaste dealt effectively with sarcoids there isn't a vet in the country that would suggest a 2 or 3 quid remedy from corner shop is better than their treatment. Veterinary practice is not always about what is best for animal and owner. It is just as much about business.
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I second that animals are used as cash cows by vets especialy family pets keep it going as you can even though it would be kinder and more humane to PTS.
 
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