Laying Ethernet cable to stables or not

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I’ve finally got around to finding someone to put drinkers in my 2 stables so will need a trench dug from the house to the stables for the water pipe.
As I’ve fancied cctv in stables I thought I could lay an Ethernet cable at the same time.
I don’t know how much of a faff it would be to connect to the router though as cable would have to come into downstairs toilet and go across the hall to the room where the router is.

A cursory google suggests cat 5e cable would be sufficient?

I also have a Devolo electrical wiring internet extender which I tested in the stable and seemed to work when I connected laptop - so maybe don’t need to lay the cable?

Any advice? Thanks
 
You don't need to lay a cable. I use BT hot spots which work through the electrics system for my stable cameras - which sound like your Devolo extender. My cctv cameras are solar powered so I don't need to charge them.

You can also get solar powered cameras that are 'self' wifi enabled so you don't need a separate router (ener-j). I'm going to buy a couple for my field and arena and see how they do!
 
Thanks that’s very interesting. My Devolo is not a WiFi one but presumably I could get a compatible hot spot one to go in the stable and save needing more Ethernet cabling to the 2nd stable.

I have a power socket in one stable.

Maybe I could have a couple of security cameras too!

PS can I ask what make your stable cameras are?
 
Mine are Reolink Argus 2 cameras with separate solar panels. They're very good but very expensive. The ener-j ones are cheaper and have the solar panel integrated with the camera plus their own 'wifi'. So if these work I'll be ditching the Reolinks! The BT hotspots are great - I use them in the house too (thick walls). I did for a time use a small mobile broadband router from Vodafone in the stables but the signal wasn't as strong as the BT hotspot connected to the router in the house. So I ditched it.
 
My field of expertise - I'm a network engineer specialising in WANs.

An ethernet cable will only be possible if the distance is under 100m. Over that, and the signal degrades significantly. For outdoor use, you're better using Cat6, ideally weatherproofed. If you aren't running it in a waterproof conduit, you'll need direct burial Cat6.

However, generally speaking, I wouldn't recommend it. It's a lot of faff to install, and difficult to fix if the cable breaks.

Does the power in the stables run off the same fusebox as your home? If so, I'd recommend trying a powerline adapter, which simply runs your internet over your existing electrical cables.
 
You wont need the ethernet cable, get the longest CCTV cables (they can connect together) and run however many you want..the cctv box can then sit beside your router.
 
Pippity said:
My field of expertise - I'm a network engineer specialising in WANs.

An ethernet cable will only be possible if the distance is under 100m. Over that, and the signal degrades significantly. For outdoor use, you're better using Cat6, ideally weatherproofed. If you aren't running it in a waterproof conduit, you'll need direct burial Cat6.

However, generally speaking, I wouldn't recommend it. It's a lot of faff to install, and difficult to fix if the cable breaks.

Does the power in the stables run off the same fusebox as your home? If so, I'd recommend trying a powerline adapter, which simply runs your internet over your existing electrical cables.
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Thanks Pippity, very useful info, yes it is under 100 m however i tested the Devolo which I think is a power line adapter (I probably was using the wrong jargon) and it seemed to work ok .
I was rather expecting people to recommend installing an Ethernet cable while I had the opportunity so I’m glad I asked as the power line adapter seems like the better choice.
 
TotalMadgeness said:
Mine are Reolink Argus 2 cameras with separate solar panels. They're very good but very expensive. The ener-j ones are cheaper and have the solar panel integrated with the camera plus their own 'wifi'. So if these work I'll be ditching the Reolinks! The BT hotspots are great - I use them in the house too (thick walls). I did for a time use a small mobile broadband router from Vodafone in the stables but the signal wasn't as strong as the BT hotspot connected to the router in the house. So I ditched it.
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Super - thanks. I’m going to have to read up on “self - WiFi” ?

Our WiFi is ropey in parts of the house - I should get some hot spots for inside too
 
I have a camera that is plugged into a socket inside my stable and connects to my husbands work WiFi. If you already have a socket would your WiFi be strong enough to reach your stable? It wasn’t that expensive off amazon £70 I think, the picture quality day and night is very good and i can move it around to see them outside too. I have had it up a couple of years without issue. Im always watching the horses from my phone at home.
 

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I have a camera that is plugged into a socket inside my stable and connects to my husbands work WiFi. If you already have a socket would your WiFi be strong enough to reach your stable? It wasn’t that expensive off amazon £70 I think, the picture quality day and night is very good and i can move it around to see them outside too. I have had it up a couple of years without issue. Im always watching the horses from my phone at home.
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No the signal won’t reach without being extended / boosted. (It’s weak even in room closest to stable!) Nice photo.

Excited now, will go and look for a system that will do 2 or maybe 4 cameras and doesn’t cost the earth if possible
 
Fab thank you

BTW re the drinkers (see OP) - work started on Friday and drinkers were up and running yesterday! (Very pleased) (though just as well I was advised by HHO against installing Ethernet cable as trench is filled in now ?)

TotalMadgeness said:
These are the ones I'm thinking of looking at:

https://www.ener-j.co.uk/products/v...kit/wireless-solar-panel-wifi-ip-camera/82099

RRP is £169 but you can get them for £100 each off mano mano

https://www.manomano.co.uk/cctv-kit...MIxKng-9bn6AIVkuvtCh2CJgQuEAQYFyABEgKVhvD_BwE
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I have 3 cat 6 cables in a duct from my house to the stables. Each cable can support up to 3 cameras. I don't use all of the pairs, but it means I have some spare should any fail.
 
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