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I have a young mare who I have generally found very cheerfull and willing so long as she understands what you want and can do it. Its a slightly complicated situation but her other rider (who rides to compete as I don't want to) struggled today to get a walk trot transition.She was bucking.The last time I rode her she felt very unhappy.I am told that she is lazy but I don't buy that myself.Hopefully the physio is coming out soon, saddle fits but I think she is uncomfortable for some reason.I am having a lesoon tomorrow but after that I am going to give her a few days rest to see if that changes the situation.She is a mare and it is spring so she could be in season I supose.Any ideas?
 
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Bucking would usually signal pain for me (or unbalanced but that’s usually in canter) I’m not sure I would do a lesson on her
How does she look on the ground? I’d try get someone to video while you’re on her to see how she’s moving compared to on the lunge
 
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Bucking would usually signal pain for me (or unbalanced but that’s usually in canter) I’m not sure I would do a lesson on her
How does she look on the ground? I’d try get someone to video while you’re on her to see how she’s moving compared to on the lunge
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Well the lesson is with my very good instructor.She will ride her first and I may or may not.We will not be doing anything very exciting.After that I will decide but a rest is my first thought followed by my excellent physiotherapist who, to be very honest, I trust rather more than the vet!!
 
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eahotson said:
Well the lesson is with my very good instructor.She will ride her first and I may or may not.We will not be doing anything very exciting.After that I will decide but a rest is my first thought followed by my excellent physiotherapist who, to be very honest, I trust rather more than the vet!!
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It seems like a colossal waste of money (your instructors time) and unfair to your mare 🤷🏻‍♀️
 
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I think it’ll be beneficial to see her under saddle I would suggest taking a video if your instructor is comfortable to show your physio/vet I always find when I get someone out to check they magically are in perfect form until the vet has left again
 
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OP it sounds like you have a plan that you won’t be separated from.

I’d say in that case get plenty of video during your lesson and possibly even get the vet out during it so they can see the problem. I’d get vet out anyway if, as you say, money isn’t an issue just for peace of mind and to rule everything out. You will never find the cause of it if you don’t start ruling things out :)
 
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OP it sounds like you have a plan that you won’t be separated from.

I’d say in that case get plenty of video during your lesson and possibly even get the vet out during it so they can see the problem. I’d get vet out anyway if, as you say, money isn’t an issue just for peace of mind and to rule everything out. You will never find the cause of it if you don’t start ruling things out :)
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My instructor,very experienced,whose judgement I trust,is happy to ride her.When I had my old boy I started a lesson with her.All went well for about ten minutes then she called a halt because she said he was lame.It turned out to be his hocks.He was probably ok for a few minutes but then the work for too much for him.
 
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I took advice from every 'expert' you could name (including a vet) when my 5 yo felt 'wrong' (handbrake on etc). They all told me he would muscle up and grow into himself. Still not convinced I misguidedly took the PSSM/MIM Equiseq route. He had one copy of p8 and px. Management made no difference so I had x-rays and scans. Inoperable KS and riddled w arthritis. He was PTS before Christmas. ALWAYS ALWAYS go down the vet route (a good orthopaedic one) before going down the PSSM rabbit hole.
 
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I took advice from every 'expert' you could name (including a vet) when my 5 yo felt 'wrong' (handbrake on etc). They all told me he would muscle up and grow into himself. Still not convinced I misguidedly took the PSSM/MIM Equiseq route. He had one copy of p8 and px. Management made no difference so I had x-rays and scans. Inoperable KS and riddled w arthritis. He was PTS before Christmas. ALWAYS ALWAYS go down the vet route (a good orthopaedic one) before going down the PSSM rabbit hole.
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I will bear your advice in mind.
 
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My instructor,very experienced,whose judgement I trust,is happy to ride her.When I had my old boy I started a lesson with her.All went well for about ten minutes then she called a halt because she said he was lame.It turned out to be his hocks.He was probably ok for a few minutes but then the work for too much for him.
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This horse? If there's something with his hocks I'd definitely be calling a vet if a problem has resurfaced or started again. Or was this another horse?

I'm sure your instructor is very trustworthy, just think exploring every option is the best idea.

I'm not quite sure what you want to get out of posting on here?
 
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Indefatigable said:
I took advice from every 'expert' you could name (including a vet) when my 5 yo felt 'wrong' (handbrake on etc). They all told me he would muscle up and grow into himself. Still not convinced I misguidedly took the PSSM/MIM Equiseq route. He had one copy of p8 and px. Management made no difference so I had x-rays and scans. Inoperable KS and riddled w arthritis. He was PTS before Christmas. ALWAYS ALWAYS go down the vet route (a good orthopaedic one) before going down the PSSM rabbit hole.
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Even though I suggested PSSM, I do agree with your post. My own horse was, breeding wise, a shoe-in for PSSM but his problems are nothing to do with it.
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This horse? If there's something with his hocks I'd definitely be calling a vet if a problem has resurfaced or started again. Or was this another horse?

I'm sure your instructor is very trustworthy, just think exploring every option is the best idea.

I'm not quite sure what you want to get out of posting on here?
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Do you know,neither do I.I think writing things down though helps to clear your mind Hocks was old,now blissfully retired horse
 
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if you’re intent on having your lesson, i’d get as much footage as possible. could possibly be beneficial to see how extreme the behaviour is yourself, but id consider this “silver lining” to your plan and not a reason to go ahead - seems like pain and id want to rule it out first.

i’d have the saddle checked, physio, and vet out if those don’t point to any clear indicator.

i don’t think a drastic change would be down to schooling etc, i would think discomfort.

wishing your mare a speedy recover, and hopefully not a drastic outcome!
 
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if you’re intent on having your lesson, i’d get as much footage as possible. could possibly be beneficial to see how extreme the behaviour is yourself, but id consider this “silver lining” to your plan and not a reason to go ahead - seems like pain and id want to rule it out first.

i’d have the saddle checked, physio, and vet out if those don’t point to any clear indicator.

i don’t think a drastic change would be down to schooling etc, i would think discomfort.

wishing your mare a speedy recover, and hopefully not a drastic outcome!
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Thank you for your good wishes.I have seen at first hand where incorrect schooling can do very real damage.Tomorrow is less of a lesson,more an assessment.
 
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Please take care if you ride her today during your lesson. You don't want to get dumped and injured if she can't cope with whatever discomfort she may be feeling.

It could be rightful resentment against poor riding if that is what has happened, but it would be wise to do on the ground checks before getting on board. Bad riding can make a horse sore.

Your instructor must already have a view on it as they were there when the horse bucked with the other rider.

Hopefully it is something and nothing.
 
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