Leibling off to Carl Hester then.

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With Dolendo sadly broken, Carl is without a really world class GP horse (Lecantos, nice as he is, isn't one of those).

Lenny will suit him - hot, forward, talented......

But lets not forget who got him there!
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Is Dolendo out of action totally?
 
I am sure that all proffesional riders are very aware that unless they own or part own a horse then that horse can easily be taken away from them ( e.g wfp and parkmore ed )
I do not think you can blame the receiving rider in any way, particularly when they are as good as ch.

I for one am interested to see if he gets even more out ot the horse or not. Only time will tell.
 
Being a 'professional rider' is just that. Yes, I feel sorry for Anna but don't forget the reputation she has gained from riding Lenny and the promotion (remember the diary entries in H&H?, sponsorship deals, etc) These don't come along unless you have a horse that warrants the attention.
Whilst horses come and go, the professional rider has to maintain their reputation so future owners will place horses with her if that is what she wants. It is now up to Anna on how she builds from the positives gained through Lenny as anything negative could affect future deals.
 
From the tone of this thread, it looks like most of you consider the professional sport of dressage as a hobby or pass time. New Flash It is a cut throat business.

I remember the post regarding the sale of Arielle to our rider from the UAE, gosh it was as if he had stolen the horse right out of the arms of William. That is business, that is how owners fund their passion, that is how riders gain experience. That is how the world of top level equestrian sports moves forward.

Horses get bred, produced and move on, that is the name of the game. If an owner feels that their horse will do better, get picked for more international etc. etc. with a different rider, then the horse will move on.

It is the right of any owner, who at the end of the day, pays the colossal bills that comes along with any professional competitive career with competition horses, to decide the best course for their horse to take, be it a change of rider or a sale.

It is not something any rider enjoys, but it has happened to them all at one stage or another, and it will happen again as long as they are riding horses that are owned by other people.

Carl IS the best rider in the UK, that is fact, he will give the horse the best possible opportunity to out shine the rest. He is without doubt a valuable member of the British dressage team. What more could an owner want for his horse.

With regard to the comments regarding the breaking down of horses, it is obvious that those making such comments do not have horses that are ridden at the top of the pyramid, ultimate athletes pushed to the limits, s**t happens. Just look at the footballers, rugby players, even cricketers, not a week goes by without injuries. Do we condemn their manager, trainers, no it is the risk they take when training every day.

My top horse was off for 3 months last season because he slipped in the wash bay!!!!!!!!!!

Get off soap box and sits quietly waiting for the back lash!!!!!!!!
 
No back lash from me, i think a lot of us were disappointed because the original report stated that the horse was taken away before Anna had a chance to say good bye. The other thing is that for a lot of people Anna was the ' underdog' done good in that she demonstrated that you can get on in equine sports through sheer grit and determination not just a rich dad, and again she is very popular. There is no doubt Carl should do a good job, time will tell.
 
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No back lash from me, i think a lot of us were disappointed because the original report stated that the horse was taken away before Anna had a chance to say good bye. The other thing is that for a lot of people Anna was the ' underdog' done good in that she demonstrated that you can get on in equine sports through sheer grit and determination not just a rich dad, and again she is very popular. There is no doubt Carl should do a good job, time will tell.

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No back lash from me either. As LHS has said I think it was the way that it was Originally reported that Anna didn't get a chance to say good bye.

As has been pointed out it is a hard industry to work and suceed in and I admire those that succeed. As I have stated previously good luck to all involved and I look forward to seeing their successes with their new rides
 
if you were offered a highly paid perfect job, and you taking it would mean that the current person doing the job would be moved or even demoted down a scale, would you really turn down that job?

Do those who think carl should have turned the horse down still really think so., I certainly don't.

Additionally I expect that there is still more to the story, that we will probably never know.

 
I really disagree with the horse being taken from Anna Ross-Davies and given to Carl Hester in the manner that it happened. Anna not only rides the owner's horse but she works for him by running Patchetts EC. She was given a couple of hours to get the horse ready before he was sent to Carl. Anna and the horse have an 8 year partnership during which she has taken him to International GP - it's not as though she was making a bad job of things! We all know the hours of schooling that she would have put in, and the amount of personal time and effort she would have invested. Anna was due to do a Grand Prix demo of the Pas de Deux with Katharine Lewis at the BD National Champs on 20th and 21st Sept, and she wasn't even allowed to uphold this commitment. I think it reflects badly on the sport, and the integrity of the owner. It seems as though there was no contract in place to stop this from happening, which often seems to be the case and leaves riders vulnerable. I am sure that Anna will have good horses sent her way - good luck to her in the future.
 
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So put yourself in the owners shoes, you are employing a yard manager, you give her a horse to ride, you pay all the expenses, you then have to give her time off to go and compete it, the horse then goes to Ulla's, this we know is not cheap, your yard manager goes out there regularly to have training, you have to get cover for when she is away, all this adds up to the point when you would start to think "do I really want a horse of this level at home" "would it not be cheaper to just put the horse with someone who will not be taking it abroad to train as he can do that himself" "plus I then get my yard manager back.
Also we dont really know what went on between Anna and owner but I do know that most of us would have never have heard of Anna Ross-Davies if it were not for Lenny's owner giving her that chance.

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How very right. Anna made her name with all that backing from DM and I'm sure when the initial pain of losing Lenny has gone she'll realise what a great help he was. She has still retained rides on his other horses and is still manager of Patchetts so I gather.
I also gather from another HHO posting to another thread that Anna was no longer working with Ulla due to a fall out. This must have been critical to DM's decision to move Lenny. Before Ulla, Anna and Lenny were good but not ever of team or Euro standard.
Very excited about Carl's first outing, I for one will be cheering him on all the way, seen him many times on many different horses and always inspired by his exceptional riding. Even Hans Peter Minderhoud couldn't control Escapado with his experience of handling wild young stallions!!! We have such a gem in CH.
 
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