Lesley Skipper GUILTY

Flame_ said:
I read about this on Arabian Lines. Good to see H&Hers not holding back. :D
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As a long-time member of AL, the subject of Lesley Skipper has had me fuming, because once again, we have all had to be nicey nicey over the subject and not upset the 'fluffies' who have taken her side. Why they cant see that a subject like this is bound to create a 'heated debate' amazes me.

Its an utter disgrace :mad::mad::mad: and to think she wrote books on the horse's welfare and is currently in the middle of writing another one.
 
I just hope no one buys her books, they sell on Amazon. Reading her bio in one her books seen on Amazon she is friends with Dr Kiley Worthington who had very different ideas to others about keeping horses.
Don't you find that those who teach don't often 'do'.
 
Tzarinaarabians said:
As a long-time member of AL, the subject of Lesley Skipper has had me fuming, because once again, we have all had to be nicey nicey over the subject and not upset the 'fluffies' who have taken her side. Why they cant see that a subject like this is bound to create a 'heated debate' amazes me.

Its an utter disgrace :mad::mad::mad: and to think she wrote books on the horse's welfare and is currently in the middle of writing another one.
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Because I'm a newcomer to AL I've held back and not said anything but it's hard to see how they can justify their support of her just because she is/was a 'name'. Utterly despicable
 
Petethehunt said:
I just hope no one buys her books, they sell on Amazon. Reading her bio in one her books seen on Amazon she is friends with Dr Kiley Worthington who had very different ideas to others about keeping horses.
Don't you find that those who teach don't often 'do'.
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Dr Kiley Worthington may be 'different' but not necessarily wrong! don't see the need to apply guilt by association to the people who may have associated with Skipper over her lifetime.
 
peteralfred said:
Dr Kiley Worthington may be 'different' but not necessarily wrong! don't see the need to apply guilt by association to the people who may have associated with Skipper over her lifetime.
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Precisely.

And regardless of the facts of the case or the conviction, making comments on someone based on their appearance says a lot more about the person making the comments than it does about the subject of those comments.
 
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It got heated because some of the fluffies on there are feeling sorry for her and feel that she shouldn't be condemned. Plus the head mod likes to rules with a rod of iron and loves nothing more than to delete/lock/edit posts and threads. Just awaiting the sentencing on Oct 4 and the photographic evidence for them to say she is still innocent
 
Skippers ideals are based on those of Kiley Worthington, not association but admiration from the author Skipper...the only connection. You all read into a post what you want to read. Skipper is guilty and has caused suffering to horses, she writes books on their care this is why this case is very important to us to talk about, she teaches others yet she herself doesn't do what she teaches.
 
Petethehunt said:
Skippers ideals are based on those of Kiley Worthington, not association but admiration from the author Skipper...the only connection. You all read into a post what you want to read. Skipper is guilty and has caused suffering to horses, she writes books on their care this is why this case is very important to us to talk about, she teaches others yet she herself doesn't do what she teaches.
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Of course, what someone teaches may be sound, sensible and valuable regardless of whether the person practices what they preach, or whatever else they may or may not have done.
 
Brightbay said:
Precisely.

And regardless of the facts of the case or the conviction, making comments on someone based on their appearance says a lot more about the person making the comments than it does about the subject of those comments.
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Hmm how ?? oh I get it we should have said she is the victim or maybe called for a public hanging!!!! not a harmless little anger venting comment about her lardass countanance .... If my dog was that ugly I would shave it's arse and teach it to walk backwards .... Chill peeps only joking :D
 
peteralfred said:
or maybe you should communicate more clearly.
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I'll communicate clearly then, she is guilty of cruelty yet it seems to me some on here think she shouldn't be. I have only ever looked in here occasionally, cheers for now I won't do again. If people can live with supporting this person who has double standards then so be it. This forum isn't for me.
 
Petethehunt said:
I'll communicate clearly then, she is guilty of cruelty yet it seems to me some on here think she shouldn't be. I have only ever looked in here occasionally, cheers for now I won't do again. If people can live with supporting this person who has double standards then so be it. This forum isn't for me.
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Hey, don't tar us all with the same brush!

If the woman is guilty, then she is guilty, a court of law has found that. Buy her books? Certainly not...bit of an insult really, talking about care of horses then gets found guilty of cruelty....
 
Petethehunt said:
I'll communicate clearly then, she is guilty of cruelty yet it seems to me some on here think she shouldn't be. I have only ever looked in here occasionally, cheers for now I won't do again. If people can live with supporting this person who has double standards then so be it. This forum isn't for me.
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where exactly did I defend Skipper? there is no defence for what she did.
 
Personally I think saying a mental disorder is to blame is wrong.

How many times now do people get away with claiming mental disorders, Bipolar etc etc to get off with something.

The main reason is they were both lazy arses that couldnt be bothered to muck out, you dont get that amount of muck from 6 months and the way she treated that poor poor staliion is beyond beleif.

I hope she hangs her head in shame I really do.

They were found guilty of neglect, awful neglect and no anmount of *fluffy* brigade stuff on Al will change my mind.
 
gabriel68 said:
Personally I think saying a mental disorder is to blame is wrong.

How many times now do people get away with claiming mental disorders, Bipolar etc etc to get off with something.

The main reason is they were both lazy arses that couldnt be bothered to muck out, you dont get that amount of muck from 6 months and the way she treated that poor poor staliion is beyond beleif.

I hope she hangs her head in shame I really do.

They were found guilty of neglect, awful neglect and no anmount of *fluffy* brigade stuff on Al will change my mind.
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Well said !! I've had M.E. for years and at times looking after 3 ponies is a struggle but they never go without and I pride myself on high standards of management .... if it got too much I would ask for help or the ponies would have to go to someone who could care for them properly, I think her books should be taken off sale.
 
perfect11s said:
Hmm how ?? oh I get it we should have said she is the victim or maybe called for a public hanging!!!! not a harmless little anger venting comment about her lardass countanance .... If my dog was that ugly I would shave it's arse and teach it to walk backwards .... Chill peeps only joking :D
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LOL.

Completely agree!!!
 
I am appalled by the lack of sympathy for a fellow human being. I know the law system is not always right and it is much easier to be judgemental than compassionate....all I can say is thank God I don't live in the UK any more. When I was growing up in Devon people were much kinder to other humans, making allowances for human frailties. NONE OF US ARE PERFECT... remember the old saying "people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones"??
 
How about having some sympathy for her horses? They are the ones that have suffered!! Poor defenceless animals... just think about what she has done to them - you think that's ok?

She doesn't deserve anything other than my disgust.
 
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