Less than 5 weeks to go now....

madhector

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...till B goes back to newmarket for his reassessment. Everything being well he should then start work!!
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The downside of this is he is going to be a little tricky... having spent 6 months in a pen, and not really coping with the restricted walking, I figure we are going to have to do a few weeks sedated walking before we introduce trot work. Not sure if I should do this or send him somewhere with a walker for a couple of weeks then get straight on ready to trot if necessary?

What do you think? Worried about him messing about on the walker and doing more harm than good

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Very exciting to be nearing the end finally, cannot wait to jump him again (fingers, toes etc crossed that he will come back sound)


Bit of a update on the rest of them while I am at it..

Jazz has been awesome, had a jump lesson and was such a clever girl, exceptionally bold and managed skinnies and everything. Going XC schooling next week hopefully, so will be interesting to see if she stays as bold over solid fences (have a sneeking suspision she will...
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Then going to try and get her out to some clear round BSJA so she can have a go at a proper course.


The little 14.2hh still wasnt right, so after alot of thinking we decided she could go and have a break having very smart babies for a bit. I know people think I was mad to do this so soon, but sticking by my reasons and would rather lose out on some money than risk my rep.


Also seem to acquired another youngster, but she is only little and so doesnt really count.


Sorry, bit of a boring post, but just a little excited about B
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Great news about Jazz and B. Personally I wouldn't go for the walker route, too many small circles.

Would it be safe to lead him out from Jazz? The thing that I have found to work well with walk work is to put them in draw reins and a big bit, seems to stop them messing about in the first place.
 
Not sure, she is still very green and might find that very exciting...


RE the draw riens and big bit, for any other horse would defgo that route, even if just for the first week, but B has the softest mouth and when he explodes likes to tuck his nose between his knees and let rip, he also snatches at his chest when stressed so draw riens would be lethal
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you could maybe try in hand with a chifney bit? if he knows what one is then he shouldn't even try to mess around and you should be able to stop him jumping on your head? then once he's done a few weeks of that might be safer to get on board? might not work for B but worked a treat with my ex racer after 7 months box rest
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I'm very surprised you sent a lame horse off to be a broodmare :S on the hope that whatever it was wasn't genetic or going to be made worse by pregnancy...
 
Glad to hear B is nearing the end of his rest, have you got anywhere with a horse tread mill rather than a walker or an oval walker perhaps?

Jazz sounds like a total superstar, I'm looking forward to more updates and pics
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FWIW I don't think you're mad we did it with our mare and now we have a healthy 2 and a half year old and a fit and sound mare
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. Fingers crossed it works out well for you too.
 
Keeping my finger's crossed for you that B gets back into the groove nice and easily.
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Look forward to seeing some more pics of the new girl
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Great news about Blaze and Jazz, really praying that Blaze comes right for you, he is such a cool little dude, def my favourite little horse
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Re; Walking out Blaze- just do it with lots of ACP/ sedation. 2 ACP one hour before you walk out?
 
right so in other words you actually don't know..and it could be anything in the front feet...yup. sounds like responsible horse owning to me.
Best hope her offspring only go to a non-strenuous home then too eh?
 
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right so in other words you actually don't know..and it could be anything in the front feet...yup. sounds like responsible horse owning to me.
Best hope her offspring only go to a non-strenuous home then too eh?

[/ QUOTE ] Hmm , wanders off to find a billygoat.!
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right so in other words you actually don't know..and it could be anything in the front feet...yup. sounds like responsible horse owning to me.
Best hope her offspring only go to a non-strenuous home then too eh?

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is there really any need?
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i don't remember the MH questioning her decision about the mare...so why the need to comment?
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This is not directed at MH in any way but maybe the poster posted (maybe they could have worded it a bit better) because there are lots or silly people out there, that breed from their horses which have problems and it's innocent members of the public that go out and buy these horses and end up with heart ache and an empty bank at the end of it.

I'm sure MH Talked/thought it through long and hard before she made the decision...
 
ummm...I think I will go on my vets opinion rather than yours if thats ok? Being one of the top vets in the country, I think she is better qualified to give an opinion on whether or not this mare is suitable to breed from.... unless this mare has an MRI scan then it is impossible to know what exactly is wrong, but everything points towards ligament damage. An MRI is not an option and niether is turning away doing nothing (I already have a field full of those and cannot afford another) so I either have her pts, send her away to have foals or try and sell her! What would you do?!


The pony is from a long line of very successful show ponies, none with any history of front leg lameness. Really wasnt asking for opinions of whether this was the right decision or not as rather listen to my vet
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Cool! Re bringing blaze back into work, I'm another who'd avoid the walker. I don't know if vets in the UK will let you do this, but when I was bringing a very big (17h), v strong irish hunter type back into work in the usa, I gave him 2ccs of ACP intramuscularly before getting on him. Once we'd done the walk work he didn't need it, I was riding him in a double bridle, and I have absolutely no doubt whatsoever he could have done as he pleased if we hadn't sedated him! I would ask your vet to see if you can jab him yourself - it worked fine, I'd give him the ACP after grooming but before tacking up, so it had about 20 mins to work. Seems more reliable than sedalin/tablets in my experience.
 
Glad to hear that Blaze is on the mend. Interested in all the replies re bringing back into work as will hopefully be in that position in 6 weeks or so
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. Jazz sounds great, looking forward to seeing pics
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Nicely said E
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I think Dawn will make gorgeous babies, and hopefully the time will sort her out properly.

Very exciting about Blaze coming back into work, but I would agree with the others about the walker, I just think it'd be too much pressure to be going round in circles....and not sure if the enclosed-ness of it would set him off? Have you tried sedation and chifney?

Have you got anyone to take pics of Jazz's first XC? She's going to love it
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If I remember correctly, Blaze had collatoral ligament damage? My boy had this 3 years ago and although we went down a different treatment route to you (arthoscopy, IRAP) the good news is 3 years on he is very sound and fully recovered able to do everyting he did before the damage. The route back to fitness was walk, walk, walk in straight lines only for about 6 weeks then very small amounts of trot building that up for about 6 weeks before introducing canter. I had someone walk him out on the roads for me as I work full time and it was winter, was a bit difficult to fit it in daylight hours. Arena work was initially limited to big movements with no tight turns. I'd say probably 4-5 months before he was fully fit although I didn't jump him until month 8 as I just didn't want to tempt fate
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Fingers x'd everything will be good to start in 5 weeks for you and then it's just a slow steady build up.
 
ACP to start controlled walk work as he could so easily damage himself again if he goes loony.
Avoid circles like the plauge so no walker and firm surfaces are better than soft for ligaments, or so my vet tells me.
Good luck , hope he comes back better than ever.
 
What would I do?
I would turn her away and not pass on potential problems to future horses, because I'm a responsible horse owner and realise that's a pitfall of owning.
If I couldn't do that, I'd shoot her because there's no point in breeding lame animals (and if I recall from your previous posts-ones who havent' actually done very much work to justify being lame)
Sorry if I am not jumping on the let's all say nice things bandwagon but only by people stepping up and disagreeing with this stupid practise of breeding a mare 'to give it a job' will anyone ever think twice about it
 
Great news about Blaze, I know the anxiety though that comes with bringing a horse back into work so please feel free to PM me for a moan or a groan
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I really hope he behaves ok for you because you both derserve some happy times again!

Jazz is beautiful, you must be so pleased with her
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Caribb... Although this will make me most unpopular, I do think that some of what you are saying has merit. In this country we are too quick to breed from a lame mare or one that simply won't stand up to the work. I think that is why we are still so far behind other countries' breeding programmes. Since I started looking for a good quality three year old this has become more and more a bugbear of mine.
 
I think that since MH is breeding from a nicely made youngster with her vet's permission, it's none of our place to pass judgement. Glad Blaze is going to be ok- we saw him go round at Burnham Market (my sister followed you XC I think!) nd he looked awesome then! If he was whole, we'd desperately want him for our little mare's baby- they'd have gorgeous babies!
 
have brought a few racehorses back into work now using ACP tablets.. we give anywhere between 2 or 5 depending on the horse, about 45 mins before exercise. Sedalin was actually more effective than ACP tablets, but also more expensive.

however when I brought Tia back into work after her hock operation she proved to be a hell of a lot wilder than any of the racehorses and she was bordering on lethal even with 10 ACP or a whole tube of sedalin. She fought any kind of sedation, so in the end I just had to shut my eyes and turn her out 24/7 before bringing her back into work. Yes progressive exercise 'would' have been better, but she was not going to submit to any kind of progressive work sadly
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Just to clarify, my comments were in no way directed to Madhector... I know who her vet is and how conscientious she is with her horses so I know she will have ensured this is the best option for Dawn
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My comments were probably not really useful to this post, but I just understand some of what caribb was saying, but in a wider reference as opposed to this horse.
 
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