Lesson learnt re: worming

[asmp]

I learnt yesterday that a horse won't eat wormer in a jam sandwich (although will only take bute this way) or if you try to disguise said sandwich in a bowl of food with sugarbeet, chaff and apple.

When I try to worm via the syringe I usually end up wearing most of the wormer or the floor does. Experienced friend wormed him last time but she got a bit hurt so don't like to ask her again.

Fortunately I normally do worm counts and he doesn't need doing but had to do for red worm this time. Has anyone tried those bit thingies with the holes in that you stick the syringe in the side?

 

[Polos Mum]

Have you tried the equmax tablets - they aren't quite polo like as they claim but they will eat them eventually and a lot less messy to fuss about with than a syringe!

 

[asmp]

Have used them in the past but they don't treat redworms

 

[Tinypony]

More wormers in tablet form are needed! Mine were very happy to eat the Equimax tablets when I gave them some Extra Strong Mints in between. Problem is that you can't use the same wormer every time can you?

 

[happyclappy]

i bought on years ago but never used it s i have never had problems worming.
until now
my youngsetr for some uknown reason suddenly became impossible to worm, and is very strong. like you i tried jam, feeds etc etc. i now use tablets but they cover most but not all things

 

[Flyermc]

When i was at college we used to practice worming by syringing apple sauce into the horses mouth. Could you do this regularly to get him used to a syringe?

 

[JLD]

Hi, I found the bit thing ( easiwormer ) brilliant. We could not worm my 16.3 tank without serious risk of injury and a liberal coating of wormer until we got one and it was totally stress free afterwards. Equifax tablets were rubbish. I didn't know he could spit that far !!

 

[Highlands]

Easy wormer all the way, with time and patience my trad has become better but she was truly terrified. Tablets were useless!

 

[Tiddlypom]

Wormer syringes (well Equest and Pramox anyway) are almost impossible to use single handed. I've got long fingers but I can't really stretch far enough to ease the syringe into the horse's mouth, hold it steady then depress the plunger.

Luckily my neds are fairly resigned to worming, but basically I have to trust them to keep their heads still whilst I faff around with the plunger.

The easiwormer thingy sounds a great idea.

 

[Sprout]

I might give the easywormer thingy a go - one of mine who is a saint in every other way, goes vertical if you try and use a syringe!

 

[asmp]

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Grooma-Ea...167?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item1c3dbb4ff7

This is the only thing I can find on the internet - anyone know of another supplier?

 

[MagicMelon]

I only worm at this time of year too (WC rest of year). I had to do my 17.1hh last week who simply lifts his head up so I reverse him into a corner (so he cant go anywhere), stand on a bucket and just wack it in his mouth super quick before he has a chance to object! Took him by surprise but it works, as it did with my other 2. I am however dreading doing my 13.2hh... he's a right git with a syringe and is VERY picky about food if its been tampered with. I just keep going until I get it all in. You could maybe try doing it with a bit in, then the horse cant squeeze his lips shut so much. Don't blame them TBH, must take awful.

 

[Alphamare]

What is everyone worming with now? I've been on equestrian and pramox but need to change I think and I don't really understand it. Any advice appreciated. I've tried looking it up online but only succeeded in confusing myself more. Maybe there is some worming for dweebs guide or a worm planner or something?

 

[Buddy'sMum]

What is everyone worming with now? I've been on equestrian and pramox but need to change I think and I don't really understand it. Any advice appreciated. I've tried looking it up online but only succeeded in confusing myself more. Maybe there is some worming for dweebs guide or a worm planner or something?

Here's an easy to follow worm plan:
http://wormers-direct.co.uk/calendar.html
http://wormers-direct.co.uk/ingredients.html

 

[happyclappy]

i used to use an old syringe filled with apple sauce for several days, the worm, then another two days with apple sauce. time consuming and expensive and this girl probably will still try to kill us!

 

[CBAnglo]

I used an easi wormer with my youngster for the first year or so; it used to take two people in hats to do him as he liked to rear and kick you in the head. He was fine with the easi wormer and after a year or so became resigned to worming (now just pulls faces and one person can worm on their own).

Think I got mine from robinsons.

 

[happyclappy]

some places to find easiwormers

http://www.hyperdrug.co.uk/Easy-Wormer/productinfo/EASYWORMER/



http://www.horseit.com/en/Health2001/worming/Eeasywormer130505.htm

http://www.kmeliteproducts.co.uk/first-aid/Wormabit

http://www.equestriansupplements.co.uk/wormabit-stress-free-accurate-worming-p-747.html

http://www.worldwidetack.com/advanc...ds=wormabit&osCsid=9n0qtmgrcj37m1uadl9bujdab0

 

[Mike007]

My old thoroughbred used to put up a serious fight. But then I DISCOVERED HE WAS ADDICTED TO cHOC ICES. He would go almost into a trance sucking the icecream . Then wham, a syringe of wormer straight in. He was invariably too late to realise and couldnt bring himself to spit out the chocice. But the look he gave me convinces me that there will be a special place in hell reserved for me if he has any say in the matter.

 

[Fides]

I mix the wormer with peanut butter then squirt it into the mouth with a big syringe. The peanut butter makes it stick to their mouth and stops it getting spat out - plus they love it!

 

[asmp]

Wormer syringes (well Equest and Pramox anyway) are almost impossible to use single handed. I've got long fingers but I can't really stretch far enough to ease the syringe into the horse's mouth, hold it steady then depress the plunger.

This is half the problem - my hands are so small I faff trying to press the plunger while dealing with a horse who has clamped his mouth shut!

 

[asmp]

When i was at college we used to practice worming by syringing apple sauce into the horses mouth. Could you do this regularly to get him used to a syringe?

Might try this

 

[pennyturner]

Mercifully mine are all good, so I can go along the line quietly - this means the young ones learn not to fuss, as per a previous thread!

I did once have a big old welsh who thought the syringe was satan. Normally quiet horse reared, plunged, kicked and generally went loopy, but then I BLINDFOLDED him, and he couldn't react, because I was quick, and he didn't see it coming.

 

[Cahill]

Mercifully mine are all good, so I can go along the line quietly - this means the young ones learn not to fuss, as per a previous thread!

I did once have a big old welsh who thought the syringe was satan. Normally quiet horse reared, plunged, kicked and generally went loopy, but then I BLINDFOLDED him, and he couldn't react, because I was quick, and he didn't see it coming.

I have 1 who I just put my jacket over his head and he is then quick and easy to do.

 

[soulfull]

I have been known to put apple sauce in syringes and feed them for a week or so before needing to worm. Then dip wormer in Apple sauce

Luckily last 3 horses have been fine

 

[thatsmygirl]

Iv always wormed horses with the same method and have never had a issue with any of them and I use to work all the horses at a big race yard everytime so think its the method that worked.
Wormer is ready and placed in my back pocket out of sight, I stand in front of the horse and grab their upper lip and they all then open their mouths and I just chuck it back, no mess as its gone down far enough. Doing it in the sides just don't get it back far enough. Never had one play up and with over 80 horses in the yard sometimes I can't believe they would all be saints from foals upwards through their racing career. Still use it now on my own and other people's.

 

[Isa7182]

I have a worming story that my mum told me. My mum was worming my sisters horse (long before I was born) and he fainted right after and fell over. Thankfully my mum was standing on the side he didn't fall on! It was wasn't a reaction because she said he fell over and she thought she'd killed him and then after a few seconds he got up again and there wasn't anything wrong with him at all!

I thought that was really weird, like he'd done what some people do and just fainted!

 

[Gwyntbryn]

I twitch my awkward ones. Humane twitch on, syringe in, squirt wormer on back of tongue, hold the twitch for a few moments to let the wormer melt and then twitch off and on to the next one. They don't even know they've been done.

 

[happyclappy]

possibly i will try a blindfold ot twitch. just no idea why she has changed

 

[sem9999]

Have used them in the past but they don't treat redworms

Equimax tablets contain Ivermectin which should treat red worm (they also have another ingredient which treats tapeworm). So if the horse eats them you should be fine. However you need to check that the correct number of tablets is ingested.....

 

[cptrayes]

I've never had a horse yet, though I'm sure there are plenty, that won't eat the wormer in their food. I've wormed this way with Oramec, Panacur, Eqvalan, Eqvalan duo, Pramox and Pramox plus. Of course if you try and they won't, you've wasted a fair bit of money!