Lethal inection

Wagtail said:
She has a rock salt lick in her stable which she devours very quickly and the pro hoof she is on has sodium in it. Do you think she would need more?
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Sorry wagtail only just caught up with this due to my parents accident etc

Have you seen this??? my mare had it http://www.trinity-consultants.com/index.php/store/product/135-set-back-salts-greater-1kg
speak to them, they are really helpful.

I met Yasandcrystal yesterday, she told me some of what you are going through,
sorry if this has been mentioned, have you tried imprint shoes??
 
Wagtail I am pleased to hear she has pulled round. Been through all this myself and it is awful - but remember it's probably worse for you than her! Fingers crossed she keeps on improving.

However I just wanted to say that as you're considering the injection for when the awful decision has to finally be made, please make sure the vet sedates her first. I won't go into it here but I will never allow it without. It just gives her, and you, extra security and extra peace.
 
hollybear said:
So glad to read this, have followed all your threads about this mare and have everything crossed for her. Do you think her problems and recovery could be related to the PPID seasonal rise? I know she is medicated, but maybe just struggles a bit more in the autumn?
Best of luck with her, she looks so happy in the pics and is very fortunate to have such a dedicated owner. :)
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Thank you. I have recently had her tested and the level was 19. I have also put her on angus castus which seemed to help until this latest flare up.

SusieT said:
great update.
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Leviathan said:
Sorry wagtail only just caught up with this due to my parents accident etc

Have you seen this??? my mare had it http://www.trinity-consultants.com/index.php/store/product/135-set-back-salts-greater-1kg
speak to them, they are really helpful.

I met Yasandcrystal yesterday, she told me some of what you are going through,
sorry if this has been mentioned, have you tried imprint shoes??
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Thanks leviathan. Yes, she has had imprint shoes and they were really good. However the price of them is just too much for me especially as she is being turned out in a muddy field. I think I would be losing them all the time. She managed to lose one in the sand turnout, and I still haven't found it!

Nudibranch said:
Wagtail I am pleased to hear she has pulled round. Been through all this myself and it is awful - but remember it's probably worse for you than her! Fingers crossed she keeps on improving.

However I just wanted to say that as you're considering the injection for when the awful decision has to finally be made, please make sure the vet sedates her first. I won't go into it here but I will never allow it without. It just gives her, and you, extra security and extra peace.
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Yes, I will make sure I do. I think I remember reading about your awful experience on here. I could not bear that to happen to her and I am so sorry you went through it.
 
Wagtail said:
Thanks leviathan. Yes, she has had imprint shoes and they were really good. However the price of them is just too much for me especially as she is being turned out in a muddy field. I think I would be losing them all the time. She managed to lose one in the sand turnout, and I still haven't found it!

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may i ask who did it??? the ones Diamond had set so hard you have to file the glue off before you prize it. No way would these come off

http://www.imprintshoes.co.uk/
 
I have not opened this thread for a few days, was fearing the worst, but this is such encouraging news. She is a lovely horse and she looks a long way from pts at the moment. Wagtail, you must be drained, look after yourself, too.
 
I agree re the Imprint shoes - they have to be rasped off. Do you know what shoe size she is? I ask as hubby started a pair for Crystal here that were too small, so he won't reuse and I think they remain up the barn. I would be happy to send them if they are the right size.
 
hayinamanger said:
I have not opened this thread for a few days, was fearing the worst, but this is such encouraging news. She is a lovely horse and she looks a long way from pts at the moment. Wagtail, you must be drained, look after yourself, too.
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Thank you! I am feeling much better this week.
 
YasandCrystal said:
I agree re the Imprint shoes - they have to be rasped off. Do you know what shoe size she is? I ask as hubby started a pair for Crystal here that were too small, so he won't reuse and I think they remain up the barn. I would be happy to send them if they are the right size.
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Thank you. I have had the heart bars fitted today. I have mixed feelings about them though. She walked away neither better or worse than barefoot. Sound in walk on the concrete, but lacking that real bounce I look for in her stride to know she is 100% comfortable. I will know more tomorrow when I turn her out. Keep your fingers crossed for her!
 
Thank you!

I am very pleased to say that the heart bars have really helped her. Although she came out of her stable quite gingerly (I think she always expects it may hurt) she was soon marching along the stony track. The bounce has come back into her stride. I am generally anti shoeing, but if these give her some extra quality time then I will have to put aside my worries and just enjoy her for however long she can have a quality life. She is out in the field having a good time. :)
 
so pleased for you, at least she now is having a better quality of life and you must be feeling better...good luck hope it continues and she can be a muddy field bunny again!!!!!
 
Hi Wagtail

Been lurking for a while but missed all the positive stuff! Was thinking what a pretty lass she is after seeing pic in the yard, but the mud monster photo made me laugh out loud. SO glad things are looking up after so much heartache and hope to see more positive updates! xx
 
Pearlsasinger said:
So pleased to see your good news!

I saw that you had posted again (I missed yesterday's update) and wondered what I was going to read. I'm so glad that she's comfortable.
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HazyXmas said:
Great news. So pleased that she is happy & comfortable at the moment :-)
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splashgirl45 said:
so pleased for you, at least she now is having a better quality of life and you must be feeling better...good luck hope it continues and she can be a muddy field bunny again!!!!!
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RoughcutDiamond said:
Hi Wagtail

Been lurking for a while but missed all the positive stuff! Was thinking what a pretty lass she is after seeing pic in the yard, but the mud monster photo made me laugh out loud. SO glad things are looking up after so much heartache and hope to see more positive updates! xx
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Thank you!

Well things HAD been going really well and she was walking out sounder by the day and was off the danilon. Turned her out as usual this morning and all seemed well. But just as I was tipping a barrow on the muck heap, I caught sight of some very fast movement out the corner of my eye. I turned to see her galloping after the yearling (basically being a bully) and trying to catch him with her teeth. However, she lost her footing and almost did the splits in front due to the mud. Sadly, she has reinjured her biceps brachii tendon (that she had almost ripped off the bone over three years ago). She is very sore but I managed to get her in very slowly. I don't THINK it is too bad as she is not on three legs like she was when she first injured it, and the tests the vet showed me to check whether the tendon is in place were good. So she has tweaked it rather than ruptured it. But she's on box rest for a few days until it settles. So frustrating.

She seems happy though and I have given her loads of attention and a thorough grooming.
 
Wagtail said:
Thank you!

Well things HAD been going really well and she was walking out sounder by the day and was off the danilon. Turned her out as usual this morning and all seemed well. But just as I was tipping a barrow on the muck heap, I caught sight of some very fast movement out the corner of my eye. I turned to see her galloping after the yearling (basically being a bully) and trying to catch him with her teeth. However, she lost her footing and almost did the splits in front due to the mud. Sadly, she has reinjured her biceps brachii tendon (that she had almost ripped off the bone over three years ago). She is very sore but I managed to get her in very slowly. I don't THINK it is too bad as she is not on three legs like she was when she first injured it, and the tests the vet showed me to check whether the tendon is in place were good. So she has tweaked it rather than ruptured it. But she's on box rest for a few days until it settles. So frustrating.

She seems happy though and I have given her loads of attention and a thorough grooming.
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Oh dear, hope it's just a minor setback. On the plus side, she wouldn't have been chasing him if she didn't feel good!
 
bloomin horses!!!! as others have said she must be feeling pretty good, lots of good vibes for her and hope its just a blip...fingers crossed.....what a rollercoaster you are on!!!!!
 
Thanks. She's not brilliant today. She's resting that leg a lot, though only minimally lame. I am gutted to be honest. It took her over two years to fully come sound from the shoulder injury. Now to have reinjured it is just such bad luck. I feel as though she is cursed. I am now having to totally rethink her management. I think the field is just too muddy to be safe for her. But she can't go out with the others in the sand as they are on haylage and that would set off her laminitis again. I will have to see how this injury goes. It may be the final straw, which would be so heartbreaking after everything she has overcome. She's her own worst enemy. I can never trust her to be sensible. She's such a bossy boots with other horses that are not dominant to her. Loves people, but is a bitch to other lower ranking horses. Little madam.
 
The only positive thing about the injury is that I know exactly what it is, I saw it happen, and she's reinjured it before. Sometimes it has taken her a couple of weeks to come sound again, sometimes only days. Though we had had a period of around two years without her redoing it. But at least it is simple, unlike the dratted laminitis. I hope it is just a few days, otherwise of course it doesn't bode well for her other supporting foot and may prove to be curtains.
 
Wagtail, I have always read your posts with interest, because you talk a lot of sense.

Therefore I am doubly sorry for what you are going through. I have been lucky in that my last two horses were both put down as emergencies (twisted gut and broken leg respectively) so I have not had to make the dreadful decision. But I have been with my livery horses and their owners on every occasion and it doesn't get any easier. My thoughts will be with you on Monday if you decide to PTS. But who knows...?

One thing I would like to pick up on, from the many very kind posts you have had. I believe implicitly that the last service you can render your horse is NOT to cry, become emotional etc. That is a luxury you must save for later. The horse, if you have had any kind of relationship, will pick up on your distress. Try, however hard, to be your normal self, stroke and chat to them as if you were grooming them, and their last moments will be of peace and security as they drift away (this of course applies to injection). It also makes it easier for the poor vet. Ours is lovely, matter of fact but gentle, packs his bags and goes on his way quickly and quietly, usually with a little pat and a "poor sausage"! Aam never sure whether he's referring to the horse or me! Bless you both.
 
That's very sad after all you've gone though but sometimes fate is waiting round the corner as much as we try to avoid it.
 
Have you tried American clogs on her re lami? One of my broodmares was totally crippled after foaling this year, if she hadn't had a foal on her she would very possibly not be here. She wore the clogs for 3 months and is now happily grazing in the field. She's 19 years young!
 
Rose Folly said:
Wagtail, I have always read your posts with interest, because you talk a lot of sense.

Therefore I am doubly sorry for what you are going through. I have been lucky in that my last two horses were both put down as emergencies (twisted gut and broken leg respectively) so I have not had to make the dreadful decision. But I have been with my livery horses and their owners on every occasion and it doesn't get any easier. My thoughts will be with you on Monday if you decide to PTS. But who knows...?

One thing I would like to pick up on, from the many very kind posts you have had. I believe implicitly that the last service you can render your horse is NOT to cry, become emotional etc. That is a luxury you must save for later. The horse, if you have had any kind of relationship, will pick up on your distress. Try, however hard, to be your normal self, stroke and chat to them as if you were grooming them, and their last moments will be of peace and security as they drift away (this of course applies to injection). It also makes it easier for the poor vet. Ours is lovely, matter of fact but gentle, packs his bags and goes on his way quickly and quietly, usually with a little pat and a "poor sausage"! Aam never sure whether he's referring to the horse or me! Bless you both.
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I really hope that I don't cry. I think if it comes to it I will have to get some valium!
 
puss said:
That's very sad after all you've gone though but sometimes fate is waiting round the corner as much as we try to avoid it.
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I am not particularly religious, but do believe that we and animals have souls. I think that 'someone' up there must want hers pretty badly. I also believe in reincarnation. Maybe it is her time to go and have a fresh start. I certainly am beginning to think something is conspiring against me. I will give her the weekend and if no better, will get the vet out on Monday. I fear she has more than 'tweaked' it this time. She is easily weight bearing, but swinging the leg forward is giving her difficulty. It was always more of a mechanical lameness than painful (Apart from the initial injury). She is her usually happy cheerful self today, standing on her bad leg to bang her door when she runs out of haylage so I am not worried she is suffering. But if she needs prolonged box rest, on top of her other problems, then it will be a no goer for me.
 
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