teddypops
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I don’t like watching it either, makes me uncomfortable. These horses looked furious and at one point I thought the chestnut might have had the guys head off.
LIHS Saturday events
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Bellaboo18
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Great round by Jack, a deserved win ?
Equi
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Well done to jack, a lovely round and well deserved. Showing that familial talent and wise old head on his shoulders.
humblepie
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The show jumping was nice to watch tonight. Some lovely rounds even with fences down
Equi
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First time winning, horse not sure of the protocol ?
Snowfilly
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I miss finales that actually had horses and more fake snow than that! And they didn’t even drive the greys into the ring; such a shame, I remember enjoying it so much as a kid.
asmp
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I remember the Victorian one with ladies riding side saddle, horses pulling carriages, etc - so much better than the rather pathetic ones of recent years (although I’ve yet to see this year’s one)
scats
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That chestnut looked like it wanted to kill and eat him!
I sway between thinking it’s quite incredible to be able to train horses to do that in such surroundings, to feeling really uncomfortable about it, particularly with having a dog jumping onto a horses belly.
The rearing walking grey looked very weird!
OrangeAndLemon
Afraid of exorcism
This might put you off driving. These are pictures of Boyd Exell.
Updates said the horse hadn't lost any skin but had rubbed off a lot of hair and the fei vets have recommended applying a spray.
Updates said the horse hadn't lost any skin but had rubbed off a lot of hair and the fei vets have recommended applying a spray.
Tiddlypom
Carries on creakily
scats
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Blimey! Imagine if a dressage rider left a mark like that on a horse. It would be instant elimination.
ihatework
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This is where I don’t get the FEI.
If a dressage/sj/eventer left a tiny little spur rub it is automatic elimination. Yet a whopping great rub like this isn’t treated in a similar manner. This is a criticism of the FEI rather than Boyd.
Equi
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I can see how it’s easily done (sweaty hot horse getting rubbed) but yes fei rules are a bit lax on that one
ester
Not slacking multitasking
I think we might have lost the pantomime style ones forever, fb memories give me a good breakdown of how disappointing the finales got year on year. No horses (except for the sleigh) in 2018, 2019 sponsored by the hilton and not much of anything.
humblepie
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I was lucky enough to ride on the four in hand Norwich Union coach in the finale back in the 1980s. Won a competition in the Daily Mail of all places but then they used to sponsor show jumping back in the day. Sat up front alongside John Parker. Left the arena at speed at the end - was amazing
Tiddlypom
Carries on creakily
As an aside, I spotted far more maskless spectators in the audience last night (hours after the Major Incident in London had been declared ) than in the Friday night audience.
The show rules for spectators require masks to be worn unless 'exempt'.
Wonders idly if this says something about the dressage crowd vs the SJ/driving crowd...
) than in the Friday night audience.The show rules for spectators require masks to be worn unless 'exempt'.
Wonders idly if this says something about the dressage crowd vs the SJ/driving crowd...
ester
Not slacking multitasking
or family saturday crowd . We were in the cheap seats and most around us were masked and certainly were in the shopping areas, just not the eating ones.
. We were in the cheap seats and most around us were masked and certainly were in the shopping areas, just not the eating ones.Sprig
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I think the lack of long finale may be a lot to do with the fact the many people get up and leave when the finale starts, to try and beat the rush. It also amazes me every time how many people get up to go in/out during the performance and don't even have the manners to wait for a natural pause in the action. At least this year the stewards (at least where I was sitting) were stopping people coming back in when horses were jumping but it did stop those who decided to leave their seats and wander out during a round.
ester
Not slacking multitasking
Arguably it is better to have people leaving in two batches though. Certainly at olympia proper.
Emilieu
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As an aside, I spotted far more maskless spectators in the audience last night (hours after the Major Incident in London had been declared
The show rules for spectators require masks to be worn unless 'exempt'.
Wonders idly if this says something about the dressage crowd vs the SJ/driving crowd...
I was really impressed by the fact that the vast majority of those around us were masked and I felt a lot safer than I thought I might after watching on the tv on Thursday.
MurphysMinder
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Actually yes. Most people I know warm their dogs up, do stretches etc before they do a run.
Bellaboo18
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I never did and never knew anyone that did when i competed.
MurphysMinder
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Maybe its changed then, crazy collies may keep themselves warmed up but I run a small dog and most people will go out of line to warm up their dogs and then do stretches whilst queuing.
Bellaboo18
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Interesting
I did have the crazy collie ?
rara007
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Yes warming dogs up is a ‘thing’ now. I do for both (bottom rung, terrible!) agility and canicross.
Eventing and driving have almost identical blood rules. More relaxed than dressage or jumping.
Eventing and driving have almost identical blood rules. More relaxed than dressage or jumping.
Pony Access
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I have been thinking about WHY the horse got injured.
It is a complex issue, but the competition on Saturday night at LIHS is on video and I have watched it.
The teams of four horses are performing at high speed, indoors, performing incredibly tight 360 degree turns at speed.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/.../equestrian-london-international...
Carriages were developed to carry the mail from Bristol to London as fast as possible. You didn't turn 180 degrees at speed. You drove predominantly in straight lines, and the harness is pretty well designed for that activity.
The problem doesn't arise with the leaders as the pole end is at trace height. This means the traces run over the hind quarters high enough that the skin is not moving significantly against the trace. There is pressure, not friction.
The trace comes past the wheelers leg between the hock and stifle. This area of the leg is moving backwards and forwards fast against the pressure of the traces causing rubs.
There are three obvious design solutions .
Sleeve the traces to reduce friction.
Extend the swingle tree to take the traces away from contact, Raise the swingle tree to trace level. This would leave the leaders providing axle draft, while the wheelers would exert a small downward pull on the front wheels. Wider section tyres or pneumatics would solve that issue.
The other alternative is not to run competitions that force competitors to damage their horses.
BBC.CO.UK
Equestrian: London International Horse Show - 2021: Evening Performance
https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episo...AU31UE0UGmZCIrzufHpOrkiO2WR51tyLB_qytd9Pg5ff8