Lisa Walsh (dog breeder Norwich)

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Take a look at this statement which is on the Council's website.....

Prison for Norfolk dog breeder who made thousands selling "pedigree" puppies with false Kennel Club registrations
01 August 2014

A Norfolk dog breeder has been sentenced to six months imprisonment today (Friday 1 August) for fraudulent trading, after an investigation by Norfolk County Council's Trading Standards team proved she cheated scores of consumers out of thousands of pounds by selling hundreds of puppies with Kennel Club pedigree certificates secured with false information.

The court also made an antisocial behaviour order on conviction against Mrs Walsh. She is thereby prohibited from advertising, selling, exchanging or offering to sell or exchange any dog or puppy whether by herself or through any other person or company. Should she breach the order she would commit a further offence and be liable to up to 5 years' imprisonment and a fine.

During the five year Trading Standards investigation more than 60 pet owners provided information and 50 stepped forward to be witnesses for the prosecution of Lisa Walsh, 48, whose court-registered address was in Barnham Broom.

All of them had bought puppies from Walsh at addresses in Tasburgh, Hockering and Barnham Broom in South Norfolk.

The probe revealed that at the heart of the fraud, Ms Walsh was submitting false information to the Kennel Club about the parents of puppies and securing official registration certificates so she could sell them as pedigrees for hundreds of pounds each.

Trading Standards officers found evidence of the extent to which Walsh falsified this information including:

• DNA tests which showed conclusively that some of these puppies had no genetic links whatsoever to the dogs that were registered as the parents.
• Evidence that she registered puppies claiming she was the breeder, despite having bought them from other breeders with no pedigree documents.
• Evidence that she registered some puppies as being the litters of a dog she had already sold and whose new owner had subsequently gone on to have it neutered so that it couldn’t even have had puppies.

The investigation also showed that Walsh altered names and dates on vet certificates and allocated them to different dogs. This gave owners false peace of mind that their puppies were protected from illnesses and left no proof the animals had even seen a vet.

Principal Trading Standards officer at Norfolk County Council, Gary Young, who led the investigation said: "Lots of people want to own a pedigree or a particular breed of dog and know they have to pay a premium. Walsh was charging between £300 and £500 for each of her puppies.

"Our witnesses said they only paid this because the puppies came with official certificates from the Kennel Club. They had no reason to doubt they were not pedigrees.

"But we found Lisa Walsh was systematically manipulating the Kennel Club registration system by providing the organisation with false information to secure the documents.

"Walsh registered over 600 dogs with the Kennel Club during this period. There is no certainty that any of them are correctly registered - or that any of them are pedigrees. So while we found receipts for over £170,000-worth of sales, Walsh could in fact have made almost twice that amount from her business practices."

Norfolk County Council's Trading Standards Manager, Shaun Norris, welcomed the sentence, adding: "Lisa Walsh was deceiving people on numerous levels. Today's sentence is a good outcome and reflects the seriousness of the fraud that she was perpetrating.

"This case has shown that it can be very difficult to be sure that you are buying a pedigree dog.

"Walsh was licenced as a breeder and her customers bought dogs with Kennel Club registration documents, believing them to be pedigrees.

"Our advice to people who want a pedigree, or a certain breed of dog, is to make contact with recognised breed clubs and societies who should be able to provide good information about reputable breeders of the type of dog you are looking for.

"Some owners told us that they bought a puppy to remove it from the conditions it was living in. In hindsight they now say they should have walked away, but their hearts ruled their heads.

"Our advice is to spend time in the seller's home with the litter and make sure you see the puppy interacting with the mother.

"If you have any concerns whatsoever about the conditions of their environment, contact the RSPCA immediately, otherwise you are encouraging people like Lisa Walsh to continue to exploit dogs and prospective owners.

Norfolk County Councillor Paul Smyth, Chairman of the Communities Committee which is responsible for public protection including Trading Standards in Norfolk said: "Our officers brought this case to expose a fraudulent business which took advantage of people's desire to buy a pure-bred puppy.

"While we have worked to establish the true pedigree of the dogs sold by Ms Walsh, our wider aim has been to protect the interests of the many genuine dog breeders in Norfolk who do not falsify information or deceive their customers in order to make a profit.

"By pursuing this case, Trading Standards have also acted decisively to uphold the integrity and reputation of the Kennel Club which is a nationally recognised institution."


For political comment
Cllr Paul Smyth (UKIP) Chairman of the Communities Committee, on 07733 431358
Cllr Margaret Wilkinson (Labour) Vice Chair of the Communities Committee, on 01553 766531
Cllr Harry Humphrey (Conservative) on 01945 430539 or 07866 590632
Cllr Dan Roper (Liberal Democrat) on 07920 441970
Cllr Adrian Dearnley (Green) on 01603 812212
Cllr Richard Bird (Independent) on 01485 532565
 
I cant help thinking all this could have been if not avoided at least minimised if the KC had actually started questioning the high volume of puppies being registered instead of busy counting the money all these registrations bought in. They have to start implementing some sort of system because they are in fact enabling these people to trade on their name, there doesn't seem to be any checks in place which would raise a red flag which would have stopped Ms Walsh from registering puppies. It wouldn't have stopped her trading but she wouldn't have been able to draw people in so easily. No wonder good breeders are leaving the assured breeders scheme as it allows puppies farmers to join with minimum checks.
 
Thanks to everyone that has already shared my status, over 300 shares, its great. Have already found several people that have had dogs from the same breeder over the last few years, of all the people that i have spoken to it appears that they have different mother to our dog, the breeder had 2 bitches 1 sire. Please keep sharing, we are particularly looking for the other 8 puppies from Marco's litter, born on 5th March 2013. Thanks again
Anyone that knows us, will know about our situation with 'Marco' our Labrador Retriever, at 6 months old we found out that Marco had been born with a double hip dysplasia, he came from a breeder in Redruth cornwall, who we since found out had been continuously breeding a dog with health issues ie bad hips. We contacted kc club, council, rspca etc regarding this but when they visited the breeder, she was apparently not breeding anymore & even went as far to claim that the dogs involved didn't even belong to her, she was just looking after them (not very well) Marco is now 12 months old & had further xrays yesterday, to which we discovered that infact Marcos hips are even worse than first thought, he has no hip balls & no hip sockets, he has bone grinding against bone, which at only 12 months old has left him with 2nd stage arthritis set in already .Marco is going to have to under go major surgery to reconstruct new hips, which will then give him the pain free life he deserves. my reason for this status is that, today I have again contacted the authorities as why should these breeders be allowed to get away with this ANIMAL CRUELTY what we need is to find other families that have purchased dogs from the same breeder as it is very likely they would have similar problems to Marco, there were 9 pups in marco's litter alone, without all the other litters, the authorities say they may be able to build a better case if we can find some of the other puppies. so please SHARE this status as much as possible, (5 photos)



This has come up on my fb account, Ive pmd the owner and suggested she contact Puppy Love, if anyone is in Cornwall and bought one of these puppies please contact me and I will put you in touch with the owner. Please lets get the message out there and help this lady to find the other puppies.
 
Dobiegirl said:
I cant help thinking all this could have been if not avoided at least minimised if the KC had actually started questioning the high volume of puppies being registered instead of busy counting the money all these registrations bought in. They have to start implementing some sort of system because they are in fact enabling these people to trade on their name, there doesn't seem to be any checks in place which would raise a red flag which would have stopped Ms Walsh from registering puppies. It wouldn't have stopped her trading but she wouldn't have been able to draw people in so easily. No wonder good breeders are leaving the assured breeders scheme as it allows puppies farmers to join with minimum checks.
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Barely a word out of place, and well said. The Kennel Club need to take a long and hard look at themselves. The Kennel Club need to re-evaluate their reson-detre, and their principles. The Kennel Club need to move in to the 21st. Century, rather than cling to and rely upon, the support of their own.

Alec.
 
Alec Swan said:
Barely a word out of place, and well said. The Kennel Club need to take a long and hard look at themselves. The Kennel Club need to re-evaluate their reson-detre, and their principles. The Kennel Club need to move in to the 21st. Century, rather than cling to and rely upon, the support of their own.

Alec.
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Alec, it would be a start if the KC moved into the 20th Century!
 
MurphysMinder said:
Alec, it would be a start if the KC moved into the 20th Century!
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Genuinely now, I've no wish to start an off-topic aside, but I sometimes wonder if those august bodies, and both the KC and the RSPCA would be amongst them, wouldn't benefit from a huge mirror, hanging in front of them. To illustrate my point;

One breed of dog. The working Cocker Spaniel has progressed through a multitude of set backs, but by common consent. The dogs which we have today (largely!), have become more tractable and amenable, and importantly, more 'trainable'. It hasn't been part of some almighty plan, the breed has simply evolved by the masses steering it in a general direction.

Now then, the KC and the RSPCA; Tell me now, not only have they failed to listen to those who would and should support them, but whilst we have the higher echelons of management protecting themselves, and refusing to, not only seek but listen to, sound advice, so we have movements which are not fit for purpose.

That's it!

Alec.
 
Dobiegirl said:
I cant help thinking all this could have been if not avoided at least minimised if the KC had actually started questioning the high volume of puppies being registered instead of busy counting the money all these registrations bought in. They have to start implementing some sort of system because they are in fact enabling these people to trade on their name, there doesn't seem to be any checks in place which would raise a red flag which would have stopped Ms Walsh from registering puppies. It wouldn't have stopped her trading but she wouldn't have been able to draw people in so easily. No wonder good breeders are leaving the assured breeders scheme as it allows puppies farmers to join with minimum checks.
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Well said hun, i totally agree and is exactly what i said to them 2 years ago! Nothing has changed. They havn't even taken any responsibility at all, despite some of us actually phoning them up before hand to ask if she was a good breeder. They told us she was a well established breeder with 20 years experience and it would be fine to buy from her!

Then when i spoke to them again in 2012, after they had many complaints by others, they almost stuck up for her saying that she has been a victim of harassment and they believe she was just trying to make a living!! You can imagine what i said to that!! They are absolutely useless, no point in the KC whatsoever!

Not finished with them yet! They needed to take a long hard look at their non existent regulations many years ago but now i feel its too late. The system is over run with scumbags like Walsh manipulating it to their advantage. The KC know this, they 'say' they are against puppy farming and irresponsible breeders but do nothing to ensure they are kept out. The accredited breeders scheme is a complete joke, i think someone referred to it as a definite list of puppy farmers!!
 
Dobiegirl said:
Thanks to everyone that has already shared my status, over 300 shares, its great. Have already found several people that have had dogs from the same breeder over the last few years, of all the people that i have spoken to it appears that they have different mother to our dog, the breeder had 2 bitches 1 sire. Please keep sharing, we are particularly looking for the other 8 puppies from Marco's litter, born on 5th March 2013. Thanks again
Anyone that knows us, will know about our situation with 'Marco' our Labrador Retriever, at 6 months old we found out that Marco had been born with a double hip dysplasia, he came from a breeder in Redruth cornwall, who we since found out had been continuously breeding a dog with health issues ie bad hips. We contacted kc club, council, rspca etc regarding this but when they visited the breeder, she was apparently not breeding anymore & even went as far to claim that the dogs involved didn't even belong to her, she was just looking after them (not very well) Marco is now 12 months old & had further xrays yesterday, to which we discovered that infact Marcos hips are even worse than first thought, he has no hip balls & no hip sockets, he has bone grinding against bone, which at only 12 months old has left him with 2nd stage arthritis set in already .Marco is going to have to under go major surgery to reconstruct new hips, which will then give him the pain free life he deserves. my reason for this status is that, today I have again contacted the authorities as why should these breeders be allowed to get away with this ANIMAL CRUELTY what we need is to find other families that have purchased dogs from the same breeder as it is very likely they would have similar problems to Marco, there were 9 pups in marco's litter alone, without all the other litters, the authorities say they may be able to build a better case if we can find some of the other puppies. so please SHARE this status as much as possible, (5 photos)



This has come up on my fb account, Ive pmd the owner and suggested she contact Puppy Love, if anyone is in Cornwall and bought one of these puppies please contact me and I will put you in touch with the owner. Please lets get the message out there and help this lady to find the other puppies.
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:(:(:( Reading that brought back memories! :( Poor little Marco. :(:(:(
Please do tell them Alfie's success story with his hips. Its remarkable how some of these dogs are so resilient to pain! Although some not so lucky, its nice to hear the happy endings in such dark hours. :o

Please also tell them about this case and tell them to tell their trading standards & council about it. Hopefully it will give them a kick up the butt and get ontop of this scumbag! They just shouldn't be allowed to get away with it! :mad:

I really do wish the best of luck to all involved in Marco's case, hope someone on here see's it and can help. Also, good luck for Marco's operations, hope it all goes smoothly. If they need advice with the op & recovery then i'm happy to advise them. I'll also get my mum to share it on her f/b wall.
Please keep us updated with this, especially Marco's progress, poor little mite. :(
 
Alec Swan said:
Barely a word out of place, and well said. The Kennel Club need to take a long and hard look at themselves. The Kennel Club need to re-evaluate their reson-detre, and their principles. The Kennel Club need to move in to the 21st. Century, rather than cling to and rely upon, the support of their own.

Alec.
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Well said & i agree 100% :rolleyes:
 
Alec Swan said:
Genuinely now, I've no wish to start an off-topic aside, but I sometimes wonder if those august bodies, and both the KC and the RSPCA would be amongst them, wouldn't benefit from a huge mirror, hanging in front of them. To illustrate my point;

One breed of dog. The working Cocker Spaniel has progressed through a multitude of set backs, but by common consent. The dogs which we have today (largely!), have become more tractable and amenable, and importantly, more 'trainable'. It hasn't been part of some almighty plan, the breed has simply evolved by the masses steering it in a general direction.

Now then, the KC and the RSPCA; Tell me now, not only have they failed to listen to those who would and should support them, but whilst we have the higher echelons of management protecting themselves, and refusing to, not only seek but listen to, sound advice, so we have movements which are not fit for purpose.

That's it!

Alec.
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LOL Alec :D Glad you got that off your chest :D
Again, i agree 100%, very good example!
Maybe we should make up a new Kennel Club and show them how it's done! :o
All comes down to money now and not the care and wellbeing of the dogs. Very sad. :(
 
Ebless said:
Hi,
I am shocked to read all of these posts. I also received a letter from the kennel club a couple of days ago. I bought my "pedigree" black Labrador in January 2012 from Mrs Walsh. As you all said, there was no reason to believe the puppies were not pedigree and well looked after.
However, on getting our girl home, she also became very sick. She quickly developed bloody diarrhoea which persisted for weeks and weeks, as well as a horrible cough which prevented her from drinking anything. We took her to the vet and they diagnosed parvovirus and kennel cough - which could have been fatal in a puppy of her size. (They also said she was very underweight). This made us suspicious that Mrs Walsh was running a puppy farm at the time. She still coughs whenever she drinks now.
We have spoken to trading standards about the case this morning and the man said that Mrs Walsh had false vet statements for hip scores and vaccinations. It is absolutely awful. Animal abuse! I hope she pays for it.
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EBLESS - Please contact me as soon as possible. Thanks :)
 
ejuby94 said:
Hi I brought my beautiful golden retriever Ellie back in spetember 2010 I wanted to know if I could trace the other two pups which we're in the litter with her as Ellie has developed a skin condition which has made her skin turn black and for her too loose her fur. She also may have a heart problem as when she is taken out for walks/runs she can't take it and throws herself to the floor despiratly trying to breath. I can't believe how disgusting this women is! Spoke to trade and standards yesterday and they told me that I need to send a letter to her and if she doesn't reply which I'm not hoping on then we're able to take her to a small claims court to be able to get compensation.
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EJUBY94 Please contact me as soon as possible. Thanks. :)
 
Sam77 said:
I think this just about sums up the Kennel Club / Puppy Farm Club!
http://www.puppylovecampaigns.org/thekennelclub.shtml
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Hi Sam,

the above link doest work I'm afraid.

I havent heard back fro the lady on fb but I did put some links in her message including this thread, if she contacts me I will suggest she joins this forum as she will get a lot of support.
 
I hope she does get in touch Sam, well this link works and it just proves how utterly worthless the KC is, its definately all about the money, they could insist on standards being raised with welfare being the most important but they dont give a s*** and to be honest how they treated this years Crufts winner was unbelievable and just goes to prove what an arrogant bunch of a******** they are. Im with Puppylove on this one every step of the way, the sooner they are disbanded and something new is set up its place, that actually has dogs welfare as their priority then the buying public will never unwittingly buy a puppy farmed dog again.
 
Never a truer word spoken.
They've got away with it for far too long now.
Nothing has improved, its worse than ever!
They do nothing constructive to help.
Roll on 4th September & hope & pray we get results!

Much love to you Jan. Will email ya soon. ;) xxx
 
Sam77 said:
EBLESS - Please contact me as soon as possible. Thanks :)
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EBLESS - I MAY HAVE FOUND 2 OF YOUR LITTER MATES AND UR GIRL IS PROBABLY MY ALFIE's HALF SISTER!

If i am right your girls sire is COURTMELYN'S DUKE yeah? Her dob must be either, 1/1/12 (2 black boys i know of) or, 16/1/12 or 25/1/12, am i right? Hope so.....Welcome to the growing family :)

Please get in touch as i need to speak with you regarding health issues, please send me a private message either with an email address i can contact you on or if you prefer i will give you mine first :)
Hope to hear from you soon :) xxx
 
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EJUBY94 Please contact me as soon as possible. Thanks. :)
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EJUBY94 - I may have found your litter on my list
Does this look familiar at all...
11/09/2010 King Mendician x Aggie Lass (16/03/07 1/3) ???

Please get in touch. I may be able to help :) xxx
 
LYNNE LUPTON - I MAY HAVE FOUND YOUR LITTER TOO

Does this look familiar at all?
30/08/2012 Annieshill Lad x Birchwater Amber (14/02/09 21/10/10 2/15 ???

Please get in touch, i may be able to help you. :) xxx
 
Hi Sam, on another post you mentioned family members writing letters to the court in support of Lisa. One of the couples you mentioned to be in their 70s, and that you had seen their KC registration? Is this Wendy or Peter Walsh? Could I see the registration? I know the couple in a professional setting and would be interested to have an idea how much in the know/involved they are. They claim she was only prosecuted for money reasons (which doesn't make sense) and that the puppies were kc registered and inoculated. I know this not to be true but would like to know if they are genuinely oblivious or trying to pull the wool over my eyes.

Many thanks
 
lenlennie said:
Hi Sam, on another post you mentioned family members writing letters to the court in support of Lisa. One of the couples you mentioned to be in their 70s, and that you had seen their KC registration? Is this Wendy or Peter Walsh? Could I see the registration? I know the couple in a professional setting and would be interested to have an idea how much in the know/involved they are. They claim she was only prosecuted for money reasons (which doesn't make sense) and that the puppies were kc registered and inoculated. I know this not to be true but would like to know if they are genuinely oblivious or trying to pull the wool over my eyes.

Many thanks
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Please send me a private message with more details and who you are exactly. You must appreciate any details to do with this case that are not public knowledge must not be discussed on public forums. I am still very limited to what i can say on here. If you PM we can discuss this more. Many thanks, i will very much look forward to speaking with you.
 
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